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Did the hotfix break Group Finder?

  • Julia_Nix
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    Hey all, if you are experiencing long or seemingly endless queue times can you let us know the platform, server, what role you were queuing for, and if you were in a group/solo? Also when you started experiencing the issue would be helpful.

    Solo tank, for random normal, PC NA.
    Solo healer, for random normal, PC NA.
  • Faiza
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    RageKing wrote: »
    So im noticing that if i que for vet dungeon then i get in pretty fast as a tank. but on normal it takes forever. PC NA

    Experiencing this as well. Cant get into normal but got into vets just fine.
  • svendf
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    The numbers I se - time in que as dps is the result of more dps que for norm dungeons. I se the same on ps4

    The que time for tanks and healers could be a result for having more dds que for same role, as the que time is very long for dds.

    In that case it´s not the group finder, that´s broken - could be many are in que and not all que as the role they should.
    Edited by svendf on November 22, 2020 11:54AM
  • NukeAllTheThings
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    svendf wrote: »
    The numbers I se - time in que as dps is the result of more dps que for norm dungeons. I se the same on ps4

    The que time for tanks and healers could be a result for having more dds que for same role, as the que time is very long for dds.

    In that case it´s not the group finder, that´s broken - could be many are in que and not all que as the role they should.

    Wrong, 1000% wrong. When the DLC dropped the q's were popping quick. So quick I was shocked. I was running 5-8 random normals on DD's every single day. I waited more than 10 minutes maybe 3 times. Tanks popped in less than 30 seconds. 4 man premade was almost instant. Everything was running smooth until the end of this week. It is completely broken when a full group takes 20+ minutes or you have to re-queue every 30 seconds 5-10 times just to get that group in the dungeon.
    "it's important to state that our decision to go with subscriptions is not a referendum on online game revenue models. F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery. Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days." - Matt Firor
  • UnionJill1
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    My husband and I were on 2 dps characters last night and it took us 15-20 min. Never found a group. We made our own group and it took 4-5 times queing to get it to finally click and give us a dungeon..
    Edited by UnionJill1 on November 22, 2020 1:24PM
  • WySoSirius
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    Hey all, if you are experiencing long or seemingly endless queue times can you let us know the platform, server, what role you were queuing for, and if you were in a group/solo? Also when you started experiencing the issue would be helpful.

    Pc NA tank,healer,dps

    Since "hot fix"
  • zvavi
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    svendf wrote: »
    The numbers I se - time in que as dps is the result of more dps que for norm dungeons. I se the same on ps4

    The que time for tanks and healers could be a result for having more dds que for same role, as the que time is very long for dds.

    In that case it´s not the group finder, that´s broken - could be many are in que and not all que as the role they should.

    So for random normal all tanks have 10 minutes wait in the queue. All healers have 15 minutes wait in queue. And all dds have 2 hours in queue. And somehow, group finder not being able to group those are not at fault? The queue time should be relative. If dds long wait, it means there are more dds comparably to tanks and healers by a lot. It means tanks and healers should have momentary queue. If everyone have long wait times, it means queue is bad. People queuing different roles shouldn't affect it.
  • Reverb
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    Nov 21, PC NA. Spent over 5 total hours solo in the queue to test it after hearing guildies say it wasn’t working.

    1 hour 45 min on a healer for a vet random, then logged out without getting a group.

    Over an hour on a tank for a vet random, and I cancelled and requeued every 15 min.

    Then I queued a dps for a vet normal and stayed in the queue for several hours while farming surveys. The queue never popped once in that time.

    Anecdotally, in every zone I was in there multiple people reporting that the group finder wasn’t working at all for them. This issue is much larger than the number of responses you’ll get in this thread @ZOS_SarahHecker.
    Edited by Reverb on November 22, 2020 2:42PM
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  • mac35
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    The random queue is a total mess right now. Even setting aside that people will wait for hours and hours for a PUG random it looks like there's even an issue with premade groups. I was part of a premade 4 person which *always* means insta pop when the group queues but even that does work. We had to pass the crown around a couple times and change the default difficult as if we were resetting a trial until we finally got the random to pop. What a mess.
  • Jayroo
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    I cant believe this has been broken for almost a week now. I can't even find myself to play it.. I just want my transmutes....
  • Recapitated
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    LionsX wrote: »
    I just came back after being away from the game for spring, summer, and fall. I rolled a healer specifically for running dungeons. After reading the comments here about the continued decline in the state of the game I'm thinking that was a waste of just about $20 CAD (I can't imagine coming back to the game and having everything in my crafting bag in my bank/inventory). I got one weekend of decent gameplay and since November 19 I have not been able to queue on PC NA for a healer at all. Well... less than 3 weeks for the next RPG.

    Ftr stuff stays in your craft bag if you cancel but new items don't go in and any crafting uses up craft bag items first.
  • Raideen
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    I have had some long queue times, some shorter-ish ones. I did have an issue where the group at one point decided to run the second vet and we had to wait in the queue even with 4 in the group.

    Overall though I have not had as many issues queuing as others have, but I have seen those issues occur.
  • LionsX
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    LionsX wrote: »
    I just came back after being away from the game for spring, summer, and fall. I rolled a healer specifically for running dungeons. After reading the comments here about the continued decline in the state of the game I'm thinking that was a waste of just about $20 CAD (I can't imagine coming back to the game and having everything in my crafting bag in my bank/inventory). I got one weekend of decent gameplay and since November 19 I have not been able to queue on PC NA for a healer at all. Well... less than 3 weeks for the next RPG.

    Ftr stuff stays in your craft bag if you cancel but new items don't go in and any crafting uses up craft bag items first.

    Thanks, good to know. One more reason to not shell out money to ZOS until the issues are fixed.
  • Calm_Fury
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    LionsX wrote: »
    LionsX wrote: »
    I just came back after being away from the game for spring, summer, and fall. I rolled a healer specifically for running dungeons. After reading the comments here about the continued decline in the state of the game I'm thinking that was a waste of just about $20 CAD (I can't imagine coming back to the game and having everything in my crafting bag in my bank/inventory). I got one weekend of decent gameplay and since November 19 I have not been able to queue on PC NA for a healer at all. Well... less than 3 weeks for the next RPG.

    Ftr stuff stays in your craft bag if you cancel but new items don't go in and any crafting uses up craft bag items first.

    Thanks, good to know. One more reason to not shell out money to ZOS until the issues are fixed.

    And with the Sitcker Book, it is much easier not to sub for a while.

    I have almost 200 free spaces in my bank.

    So, for anyone interested, it really looks like it is not as bad when you queue for vet. I got a couple of groups already in vet only since the hotfix.

    Normal is a mess. Haven't gotten a single group yet since the 19th.
  • Zolron
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    Does this mean console's patch/hotfix on Monday is going to break our dungeon finder as well ? As of now I get into normals as a healer in less 2 mins , and usually less then 30 secs.
  • Ellimist_Entreri
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    Zolron wrote: »
    Does this mean console's patch/hotfix on Monday is going to break our dungeon finder as well ? As of now I get into normals as a healer in less 2 mins , and usually less then 30 secs.

    If the console patch includes the LFG Hotfix from the 19th, I would expect it to break unfortunately.
    EDIT: If we get really lucky the Monday patch might have a fix for whatever broke on the 19th - here's hoping for the best!
    Edited by Ellimist_Entreri on November 22, 2020 9:46PM
  • majulook
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    The Undaunted event with a working group finder on day one of the event.... I cannot remember the last time we had that.
    Si vis pacem, para bellum
  • Gerwulf67
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    Yesterday was trying to do random normal dungeons on my tank (NA Server) and gave up after being in the queue for 15 min. Then while on my dps we formed a guild run for a normal and all roles were represented correctly and we queued and went nowhere. After several attempts - we had one person who refused to give up ha ha ha - we finally got in. Really want those transmutes! Hope today's patch fixes the problem.
  • Reverb
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    There’s no mention of this in today’s patch notes. This was clearly broken with the 11/19 hotfix patch. Can we get a status @ZOS_SarahHecker?
    Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche
  • Ellimist_Entreri
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    No time to actually play at the moment, however I jumped on to test the queue as my main char (Tank) - less than 60 seconds between entering queue and ready check! I can't guarantee it's fixed but that's better than I have seen in 4 days! @Reverb
  • Nibbana
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    Started 11/19. I am usually trying to queue between 5pm and 11pm EST. I have tried queueing as Tank, Heals and DPS. Mainly for normal DLC dungeons. Have been sitting in queues as Tank for over an hour, even last night (11/22) when Moongrave Fane was the daily DLC pledge.
  • DMuehlhausen
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    Hey all, if you are experiencing long or seemingly endless queue times can you let us know the platform, server, what role you were queuing for, and if you were in a group/solo? Also when you started experiencing the issue would be helpful.

    I mean take your pick on class, role and platform.

    Starting after Markarth I've waited in queue for 10 minutes as a tank. I only play Tank and Healers so I avoid the queues.
  • Ellimist_Entreri
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    Nibbana wrote: »
    Started 11/19. I am usually trying to queue between 5pm and 11pm EST. I have tried queueing as Tank, Heals and DPS. Mainly for normal DLC dungeons. Have been sitting in queues as Tank for over an hour, even last night (11/22) when Moongrave Fane was the daily DLC pledge.

    Try to queue again today. This was fixed as of todays patch, my queue as tank after the patch was less than 1 full minute before ready check popped!
    Edited by Ellimist_Entreri on November 23, 2020 4:18PM
  • Reverb
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    Very good to hear this seems to be fixed on PC, thanks for the verification @Ellimist_Entreri
    Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche
  • Calm_Fury
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    Nice!

    I'm taking another ESO break since it looks like the dungeons are still bugged with crashes, but good to know the group finder at least is fixed.
  • mitchtheelder
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    How many patches u need @ZOS_GinaBruno to fix this game to be able to run it on minimum requirements to play it?

    After todays patch my game is getting worse. I was rarely getting those dc's tonight I got so many that I needed to restart the whole pc after each. LA not working, animations are broken etc.

    I think after so many years and suffering its time to move to WOW as 1000 of players already did! So sad to have to run away from the game with this patch that on the paper brought so many good staff! What is the issue this time? Why is the game not better after your fix? So many question and we only get "we are working on it".

    The game is broken af! Who believes in you anymore when you say you gonna fix or do something? I know I am losing the hope for this game definitely!

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  • russelmmendoza
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    Calm_Fury wrote: »
    Queing as a tank, for random normals, during prime time: 10+ minutes in queue for several characters.

    DPS: 50+ minutes in any randoms, never getting anything.

    Multiple people reporting the same for healers, tanks and DPS in 3 zones.

    Did the hotfix made today broke Group Finder?

    PC/NA

    No, hotfix did not broke it.
    It was already broken.
    I queue for specific dungeon and I know I will wait for over an hour to get in there.
  • Thundertalon
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    It does seem to work well now. However some in premade groups of 4 are having to wait a bit to queue - not sure why
    Pact: DK dps & magblade; DC: magplar, PC NA
    Looking to do group quests (Craglorn, IC, dungeons, etc) - just let me know
  • Ellimist_Entreri
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    It does seem to work well now. However some in premade groups of 4 are having to wait a bit to queue - not sure why

    I also had seen mention of this, did you happen to catch any additional details regarding the premade groups having issues such as what server/platform, what was being queued for (rando norm, rando vet, specific either) and how long they waited? I understand a premade group should certainly just port in, just trying to clarify any additional potentially relevant details that might help pin down a solution to this!
  • Nothingness
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    The workaround for this is to:

    1) leave queue, if you are able (someone either leaves group or logs out otherwise).
    2) Have everyone in the party cycle their Role
    3) Requeue

    My group has had these issues for 2 weeks now. This is the only way to work around it. We have to pretty much do this after every queue as well or we get stuck in the endless Queue.
    Edited by Nothingness on November 24, 2020 12:30AM
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