Crash to desktop

newtinmpls

yesterday got booted loading into my character

ShawnLaRock

I figure today was about 20 - when trying to leave houses; use wayshrines; switch characters; or switch servers. Every day about the same. Don’t all happen at the same time of the day / with increased or deceased traffic. Sometimes porting to an alternate wayshrine (ie. Solitude Docks instead of actually IN the city) works... other times, not. Could go 6 hours of non-stop gameplay with no issues travelling; or might try 6 times in a row to leave my house unsuccessfully. It’s an unpredictable and unreliable mess.

S.

Edit: above example is from PCNA. Oddly - the same thing happened a TON on XBOX for a long time after Greymoor launch - but I haven’t experienced porting / DCing issues on that server in a long time (just a TON of other things!). Oof.

JamieAubrey

Happened for the first time last night, game was running perfect and then I crashed

WySoSirius

I think from now on I am just going to screen dump every CTD error I get. Seems it gains more attention here than submitted tickets

WySoSirius

FrogSpell

Before the patch I was getting on real fine, now I'm crashing to a black screen and sometimes textures are slow loading. I have checked all my drivers and they are up to date, I tried reducing graphics etc and turning off addons.. but I'm still getting crashes...Nothing has changed on my PC except the patches this week. I'm now running the launcher repair again but did that already yesterday but it's worth trying.

karliahquinn

Crashed 4x this week, all while in trials

PC EU

scorpius2k1

On current hardware/good internet connection/everything up to date/no addons/default settings. My crashes are random like others, but still happening. I do notice a pattern however, I always get a C2D while standing at any undaunted enclave or area that is busy for longer than ~5-15 mins. This has been happening ever since the patch in November 2020, prior to that I very rarely had any crashes, if any.

EDIT: Maybe unrelated, but also worth mentioning that I am seeing a lot more occurrences of brief loading screen flash while just walking around areas I am already loaded into.

Dragonnord

Remove ALL addons and I can guarantee you that you will NEVER crash to desktop.
 

WySoSirius

Jaraal

Got the gray screen of death last night while playing in the usual Cyrodiil lag. Everything just locked up and froze in place like this for five minutes, until I had to close the program to get out of it. Connection was good, YouTube tunes never stopped playing. Win 7 OS with Radeon HD 7900 graphics.

madman65

Game still crashes to desktop at random for no reason. Just stops.

Shazanti

Very recently (as in, the past 2-3 weeks) I've had the oddest CTDs. No error message box or crash reporter, and it doesn't matter what I might be doing, the game very quickly completely shuts down. It's just <BLIP> hello desktop. I could be loading a character into the game, or standing near a wayshrine, I could be in the middle of crafting for a writ, I could be at the bank, I could be looking through my inventory, I could be at the beginning/middle of a fight, I could be running to loot the corpse after a fight was done. <BLIP> desktop in a fraction of a second.

Only twice out of the dozens of times this has happened during this recent time frame have I had the 'account already logged in' message when I boot the game back up, which was something that *always* happened before when the (previously very rare) CTDs would happen.

I really wish I could get an error box so I'd have some idea what's going on.

AJones43865

I crashed 3 times today before I gave up just now. It was unplayable lag in cyro. Had to log off.

phileunderx2

Pc na I often ctd during combat when I have to do lots of blocking.
Crashed during chudan fight on a healer then crashed in V SCP on my tank.

ZAMOLXIS

4 times today only, other pb as well...with my char abilities

Jaraal

AJones43865 wrote: »

I crashed 3 times today before I gave up just now. It was unplayable lag in cyro. Had to log off.

Yeah I crashed out on a hammer ulti last night.

jasonhunter

Since the last update I also have been crashing all the time.

I_killed_Vivec

It's like weeping angels... every time I look away it crashes to desktop. I look back... no game!

Minnesinger

3 disconnects when I am fighting in Cyrodiil. Feels stupid to log into a game that works as bad as this.

Minnesinger

4 times now.

AJones43865

ESO is the only game I play where crashing to desktop is the norm for most players. It's worse during intense combat for sure. Sometimes I get the white page error report option, but I never bother with submitting the error report. Everyone knows the primary issue is insufficient servers leased to support the game.

Tandor

AJones43865 wrote: »

ESO is the only game I play where crashing to desktop is the norm for most players. It's worse during intense combat for sure. Sometimes I get the white page error report option, but I never bother with submitting the error report. Everyone knows the primary issue is insufficient servers leased to support the game.

Where is your evidence that crashing to desktop is the norm for most players? Or that everyone knows that the primary issue is insufficient servers leased to support the game? You do know that a megaserver consists of more than one server, right?

Shazanti

AJones43865 wrote: »

ESO is the only game I play where crashing to desktop is the norm for most players. It's worse during intense combat for sure. Sometimes I get the white page error report option, but I never bother with submitting the error report. Everyone knows the primary issue is insufficient servers leased to support the game.

Even though I'm a victim of a current batch of no-warning instant game shutdowns, I don't think what's happening to me is the norm. Even before this latest issue, I would get random crashes (but those always either booted me to login, or took the game a long time to close down and send me to desktop). Sure, crashes might happen now and have happened before, but they were far, far from the 'norm'. One crash every 2-3 months (or more) for both my husband and I combined is our (prior to my current issue) 'norm'. And over the years perhaps two of those crashes were during 'intense combat', so I'm not certain where this 'norm for most players' is coming from.

So, yeah, I agree with this:

Tandor wrote: »

Where is your evidence that crashing to desktop is the norm for most players?

AJones43865

Tandor wrote: »

AJones43865 wrote: »

ESO is the only game I play where crashing to desktop is the norm for most players. It's worse during intense combat for sure. Sometimes I get the white page error report option, but I never bother with submitting the error report. Everyone knows the primary issue is insufficient servers leased to support the game.

Where is your evidence that crashing to desktop is the norm for most players? Or that everyone knows that the primary issue is insufficient servers leased to support the game? You do know that a megaserver consists of more than one server, right?

I play everyday for at least 2-3 hours. There are 1-2 full raid groups running in my guild at that time, so 12-24 players. Everyone, everyday, almost without fail, has one crash to desktop. It is worse for some than for others. I do not know why.
So maybe it's primarily a PvP thing, but it absolutely, undeniably, is happening, every day we run, and has been the norm for years. Most people in PvP zone chat say it's the norm for them. The severity/frequency does vary some with each update.

As for the server issues, I've been playing since shortly after beta. I've seen and read most of what has been posted about server issues over the years. We've seen what used to happen for better performance during MYM events. We've seen how they can fix the majority of the performance issues in cyrodiil, but they don't. At least 8 times we've seen ZOS fix most performance issues in cyrodiil with a single maintenance, then revert those changes in a single maintenance once the event is over. Instead they try everything except leasing more/better servers (or what ever the changes they made were to the servers) just prior to and just after MYM events. This is also common knowledge. The last MYM event was the first time performance in cyrodiil did not improve with increased event populations. Presumably the reasoning is it's an obvious tell to the consumer that something could be done, but for some reason it's not being done.

I could go on for pages reviewing all the ways we know servers and server load are the primary issues leading to performance problems, but they've been pointed out and rehashed so many times by now it's practically an insult to ask the question.

I'm just pointing out realities. Sure, some don't like these realities, but that doesn't change reality.

Shazanti wrote: »

AJones43865 wrote: »

ESO is the only game I play where crashing to desktop is the norm for most players. It's worse during intense combat for sure. Sometimes I get the white page error report option, but I never bother with submitting the error report. Everyone knows the primary issue is insufficient servers leased to support the game.

Even though I'm a victim of a current batch of no-warning instant game shutdowns, I don't think what's happening to me is the norm. Even before this latest issue, I would get random crashes (but those always either booted me to login, or took the game a long time to close down and send me to desktop). Sure, crashes might happen now and have happened before, but they were far, far from the 'norm'. One crash every 2-3 months (or more) for both my husband and I combined is our (prior to my current issue) 'norm'. And over the years perhaps two of those crashes were during 'intense combat', so I'm not certain where this 'norm for most players' is coming from.

So, yeah, I agree with this:

Tandor wrote: »

Where is your evidence that crashing to desktop is the norm for most players?

Tandor

AJones43865 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

AJones43865 wrote: »

ESO is the only game I play where crashing to desktop is the norm for most players. It's worse during intense combat for sure. Sometimes I get the white page error report option, but I never bother with submitting the error report. Everyone knows the primary issue is insufficient servers leased to support the game.

Where is your evidence that crashing to desktop is the norm for most players? Or that everyone knows that the primary issue is insufficient servers leased to support the game? You do know that a megaserver consists of more than one server, right?

I play everyday for at least 2-3 hours. There are 1-2 full raid groups running in my guild at that time, so 12-24 players. Everyone, everyday, almost without fail, has one crash to desktop. It is worse for some than for others. I do not know why.
So maybe it's primarily a PvP thing, but it absolutely, undeniably, is happening, every day we run. Most people in PvP zone chat say it's the norm for them.

As for the server issues, I've been playing since shortly after beta. I've seen and read most of what has been posted about server issues over the years. We've seen what used to happen for better performance during MYM events. We've seen how they can fix the majority of the performance issues in cyrodiil, but they don't. Instead they try everything except leasing more/better servers. This is also common knowledge.

I'm just pointing out realities. Sure, some don't like these realities, but that doesn't change reality.

Shazanti wrote: »

AJones43865 wrote: »

ESO is the only game I play where crashing to desktop is the norm for most players. It's worse during intense combat for sure. Sometimes I get the white page error report option, but I never bother with submitting the error report. Everyone knows the primary issue is insufficient servers leased to support the game.

Even though I'm a victim of a current batch of no-warning instant game shutdowns, I don't think what's happening to me is the norm. Even before this latest issue, I would get random crashes (but those always either booted me to login, or took the game a long time to close down and send me to desktop). Sure, crashes might happen now and have happened before, but they were far, far from the 'norm'. One crash every 2-3 months (or more) for both my husband and I combined is our (prior to my current issue) 'norm'. And over the years perhaps two of those crashes were during 'intense combat', so I'm not certain where this 'norm for most players' is coming from.

So, yeah, I agree with this:

Tandor wrote: »

Where is your evidence that crashing to desktop is the norm for most players?

You've answered the main point I was raising yourself. Yes, I wholly accept that raiders and Cyrodiilians crash regularly, I never contest that. What I do contest is that this equates to most players. It doesn't.

As for the servers, it does seem from forum reports that Cyrodiil performance tends to improve during some MYM events, although not always in those events, and as ZOS have made other coding etc changes to the game to address these issues as they see them some players have reported improvements. So while I accept that there is an argument to be made that it's down to server-side issues I'm not convinced that it's common knowledge that as a factual point it's down to a shortage of servers or the use of sub-standard servers. I suspect it's a lot more complex than that, and that if it was simply a case of leasing more or better servers then ZOS would have done so by now instead of driving some players away from the game because of the performance issues while driving some other players away because of the game changes they introduced at least in part to address those performance issues.

Jaraal

AJones43865 wrote: »

The last MYM event was the first time performance in cyrodiil did not improve with increased event populations. Presumably the reasoning is it's an obvious tell to the consumer that something could be done, but for some reason it's not being done.

Agreed, and it coincides with the conversion to Microsoft servers and the switch from Akamai DDoS filtering to Microsoft Azure.

Joseph_Knecht

I've hit a spate of these in the last couple of weeks. Crash to desktop from game. Happens randomly.

milllaurie

SOLUTION

I kept crashing a few times a day. In cyro, in vet no death runs etc.
Since I started launching eso in compatibility mode 2 days ago I had 0 crashes whatsoever.

jasonhunter

Still crashing. I really hope the devs will look into this. It didnt happen before the latest patch.