Ring of the Wild Hunt should work even if you're mounted

FrancisCrawford

Ring of the Wild Hunt, in my experience, doesn't work when you're mounted.

But it should, for reasons that include:

• This would be a massive QoL improvement with no combat downside.
• Mount-enabled Ring of the Wild Hunt could go a LONG way toward easing the pain from the loss of Rapid Maneuvers.
• The tooltip is written as if the Ring works mounted.
• The "Wild Hunt" of myth was very much mounted, as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hunt. If the Ring wasn't meant to work when you're mounted, it should have had a different name.

Fischblut

Agree! It was the first thing I checked when I got that ring... Was disappointed that it didn't impact my mounted speed

DarkPicture

Are you wearing ring or your mount? Hm...

Raideen

Good call OP and you are right, it should work while mounted. I would ensure it does not stack with rapid maneuver, but this is an excellent way for PVE only players to obtain the ring, it makes MORE sense with the lore/name of the ring as you pointed out.

FrancisCrawford

Pinging @ZOS_GinaBruno because this functionality/tooltip inconsistency is the kind of thing that sometimes gets resolved in patch notes. If the Ring is really working as intended then the tooltip should be changed and we can all be sad about it.

SpiritofESO

Nestor

SpiritofESO wrote: »

The LOSS of Rapid Maneuvers???

That issue is easily corrected with a few hours of BG or Cyrodiil. You might even like it.

No, no it is not.

FrancisCrawford

SpiritofESO wrote: »

The LOSS of Rapid Maneuvers???

That issue is easily corrected with a few hours of BG or Cyrodiil. You might even like it.

Haven't we already discussed that in 5 or 10 other threads already?

Vlad9425

They could definitely add a mounted speed bonus to it in PVE but in Cyrodiil PvP this would cause a lot of uproar since getting to keeps and fights faster than those who don’t have access to the ring would be a direct advantage in a PvP fight and would cause a lot of “pay to win” arguments. Like I said before though I see no reason why they can’t add a mounted speed buff to it in PVE.

FrancisCrawford

Vlad9425 wrote: »

They could definitely add a mounted speed bonus to it in PVE but in Cyrodiil PvP this would cause a lot of uproar since getting to keeps and fights faster than those who don’t have access to the ring would be a direct advantage in a PvP fight and would cause a lot of “pay to win” arguments. Like I said before though I see no reason why they can’t add a mounted speed buff to it in PVE.

More such arguments than around other new sets?

WeerW3ir

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Ring of the Wild Hunt, in my experience, doesn't work when you're mounted.

But it should, for reasons that include:

• This would be a massive QoL improvement with no combat downside.
• Mount-enabled Ring of the Wild Hunt could go a LONG way toward easing the pain from the loss of Rapid Maneuvers.
• The tooltip is written as if the Ring works mounted.
• The "Wild Hunt" of myth was very much mounted, as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hunt. If the Ring wasn't meant to work when you're mounted, it should have had a different name.

Nope. Sorry but its an overkill. Its already broken ring, why make it worse?
Currently with full stam character and with that ring. you already faster than a horse on lvl20. So i vote no. The idea could work, but this would be overkill and almost p2w.

WeerW3ir

SpiritofESO wrote: »

The LOSS of Rapid Maneuvers???

That issue is easily corrected with a few hours of BG or Cyrodiil. You might even like it.

True. so f. true >_<

idk

Isn't mount speed capped like character speed? If so then it should not be an issue for it to boost mount speed by some measure.

JoeCapricorn

One way to make sure it does not stack with Rapid Maneuver is to just have Ring of the Wild Hunt grant Major Gallop at all times.

It wouldn't be able to stack with itself.

Also I am 100% for this as an alternative to Rapid Maneuver.

Or add another Mythic item, the Helmet of Plaid Speed. You get Major Gallop, but also Minor Gallop, and you leave a plaid colored trail behind you.

rpa

Mount speed is currently bugged. I've noticed sometimes even sprint does not add any speed while riding (on a char well below cap). Unfortunately because the Rapids hulabaloo, ZoS apparently now refuses to acnowledge any speed related issues, bugs included...

colossalvoids

1. Only in pve zones, there is Cyro and bgs with mounting enabled btw.
2. Colovian etc. War Tortes are made it's way to the game for a reason. Imagine playing game mode to get desired skills from.
3. It's not and i have zero idea why anyone would assume that if it's not include any mention of "mounted" requirement.
4. Myth of a wild hunt and elder scrolls wild hunt aren't the same thing at all, pretty bizarre argument for a name change.

WeerW3ir

JoeCapricorn wrote: »

One way to make sure it does not stack with Rapid Maneuver is to just have Ring of the Wild Hunt grant Major Gallop at all times.

It wouldn't be able to stack with itself.

Also I am 100% for this as an alternative to Rapid Maneuver.

Or add another Mythic item, the Helmet of Plaid Speed. You get Major Gallop, but also Minor Gallop, and you leave a plaid colored trail behind you.

Actually adding a new mythic item would work. obviously would need some well balanced stats.

Gloves of the lost Rider

Gain Major and Minor Gallop upon wearing this gloves, but neither you, neither the other players cannot apply any speedbuff on you

Kiyakotari

SpiritofESO wrote: »

The LOSS of Rapid Maneuvers???

That issue is easily corrected with a few hours of BG or Cyrodiil. You might even like it.

Even on characters that have regained Rapids (or were already high enough in Assault to keep it), a fully-trained mount with Rapids running is still not as fast as it was before the Rapids change.

Historically, Major and Minor buffs have stacked with each other but could not double up, and have also stacked with percentage-based buffs in the same skill or area of benefit. (A 20% speed boost with Major Expedition and Minor Expedition would stack. If you have Major Expedition, Major Expedition, and a 20% speed boost, you would only benefit from Major Expedition once, but the 20% speed boost would still stack.)

Danksta

But I didn't lose rapids and maybe ZoS intended for us to not have them stack.

Vevvev

WeerW3ir wrote: »

Gloves of the lost Rider

Gain Major and Minor Gallop upon wearing this gloves, but neither you, neither the other players cannot apply any speedbuff on you

Cool idea on paper but with Major and Minor Gallop applied to you it is impossible for them to apply any more speed buffs related to mounted speed. It'd have to be like the Ring of the Wild hunt where the speed buff is unique.

Integral1900

Would definitely make more sense, at the moment it just sits in my pack because if I’m collecting surveys I’m mounted most of the time and if I’m questing then I’m not in a rush in the first place.

Elvenheart

The perfect solution - entering Cyrodiil should automatically give your char the major gallop buff the whole time you are there. In PvE areas, you should be able to get it like normal by using Rapids, or get it by wearing the Ring of the Wild Hunt.

FrancisCrawford

Danksta wrote: »

But I didn't lose rapids and maybe ZoS intended for us to not have them stack.

Do you think you'll ever create a new character again?

NotaDaedraWorshipper

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

[*] The "Wild Hunt" of myth was very much mounted, as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hunt. If the Ring wasn't meant to work when you're mounted, it should have had a different name.
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Except this is Elder Scrolls and the Wild Hunt is something different here. The name is fine without mount speed.

FrancisCrawford

WeerW3ir wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Ring of the Wild Hunt, in my experience, doesn't work when you're mounted.

But it should, for reasons that include:

• This would be a massive QoL improvement with no combat downside.
• Mount-enabled Ring of the Wild Hunt could go a LONG way toward easing the pain from the loss of Rapid Maneuvers.
• The tooltip is written as if the Ring works mounted.
• The "Wild Hunt" of myth was very much mounted, as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hunt. If the Ring wasn't meant to work when you're mounted, it should have had a different name.

Nope. Sorry but its an overkill. Its already broken ring, why make it worse?
Currently with full stam character and with that ring. you already faster than a horse on lvl20. So i vote no. The idea could work, but this would be overkill and almost p2w.

Level 20s can't use the ring. At least, they can't use it by Reconstructing it; I don't know whether they can grind it directly.

FrancisCrawford

WeerW3ir wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Ring of the Wild Hunt, in my experience, doesn't work when you're mounted.

But it should, for reasons that include:

• This would be a massive QoL improvement with no combat downside.
• Mount-enabled Ring of the Wild Hunt could go a LONG way toward easing the pain from the loss of Rapid Maneuvers.
• The tooltip is written as if the Ring works mounted.
• The "Wild Hunt" of myth was very much mounted, as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hunt. If the Ring wasn't meant to work when you're mounted, it should have had a different name.

Nope. Sorry but its an overkill. Its already broken ring, why make it worse?
Currently with full stam character and with that ring. you already faster than a horse on lvl20. So i vote no. The idea could work, but this would be overkill and almost p2w.

Also, what is the badness in the idea that you believe would make it "worse"? Who gets hurt if somebody can move through towns or down roads faster?

Elephant42

It is my firm belief that most of the changes to skills and bonuses starting with Clockwork City have had very little to do with balance or player enjoyment, rather they are all primarily aimed at getting the servers under control and keeping them there.

The lower the complexity of skills and bonuses, the more you can keep players CCed and the _slower you can get them to move_ means fewer server side calculations per second...

JoeCapricorn

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

[*] The "Wild Hunt" of myth was very much mounted, as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hunt. If the Ring wasn't meant to work when you're mounted, it should have had a different name.
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Except this is Elder Scrolls and the Wild Hunt is something different here. The name is fine without mount speed.

The Wild Hunt sure is fascinating though. The idea that cute, unassuming little elves from the woods with little pointy ears and tiny sharp canines could become the very embodiment of chaos, transforming into Eldritch horrors and completely wrecking everything in their path... it now makes sense why they make furniture and fences from bone and leather.

WeerW3ir

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

WeerW3ir wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Ring of the Wild Hunt, in my experience, doesn't work when you're mounted.

But it should, for reasons that include:

• This would be a massive QoL improvement with no combat downside.
• Mount-enabled Ring of the Wild Hunt could go a LONG way toward easing the pain from the loss of Rapid Maneuvers.
• The tooltip is written as if the Ring works mounted.
• The "Wild Hunt" of myth was very much mounted, as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hunt. If the Ring wasn't meant to work when you're mounted, it should have had a different name.

Nope. Sorry but its an overkill. Its already broken ring, why make it worse?
Currently with full stam character and with that ring. you already faster than a horse on lvl20. So i vote no. The idea could work, but this would be overkill and almost p2w.

Level 20s can't use the ring. At least, they can't use it by Reconstructing it; I don't know whether they can grind it directly.

Level20 horse feed. not player level.

WeerW3ir

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

WeerW3ir wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Ring of the Wild Hunt, in my experience, doesn't work when you're mounted.

But it should, for reasons that include:

• This would be a massive QoL improvement with no combat downside.
• Mount-enabled Ring of the Wild Hunt could go a LONG way toward easing the pain from the loss of Rapid Maneuvers.
• The tooltip is written as if the Ring works mounted.
• The "Wild Hunt" of myth was very much mounted, as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hunt. If the Ring wasn't meant to work when you're mounted, it should have had a different name.

Nope. Sorry but its an overkill. Its already broken ring, why make it worse?
Currently with full stam character and with that ring. you already faster than a horse on lvl20. So i vote no. The idea could work, but this would be overkill and almost p2w.

Also, what is the badness in the idea that you believe would make it "worse"? Who gets hurt if somebody can move through towns or down roads faster?

Because its already broken. the speedbuff is strong. beside there is no other item at all which changing your horse stats. why this should be? if surely then add a new one as i said which changing your mount stats. but as a different item. not as the same.

Raideen

WeerW3ir wrote: »

JoeCapricorn wrote: »

One way to make sure it does not stack with Rapid Maneuver is to just have Ring of the Wild Hunt grant Major Gallop at all times.

It wouldn't be able to stack with itself.

Also I am 100% for this as an alternative to Rapid Maneuver.

Or add another Mythic item, the Helmet of Plaid Speed. You get Major Gallop, but also Minor Gallop, and you leave a plaid colored trail behind you.

Actually adding a new mythic item would work. obviously would need some well balanced stats.

Gloves of the lost Rider

Gain Major and Minor Gallop upon wearing this gloves, but neither you, neither the other players cannot apply any speedbuff on you

I was thinking more along the lines of ....
Love of the Ghost Rider