Can we get a summary and stats on the actions taken in the case of the "Crowns received in error"?

Dusk_Coven

@ZOS_GinaBruno

https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/1296857332178198528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1296857332178198528%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fquery%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2FTESOnline2Fstatus2F1296857332178198528widget%3DTweet

White wabbit

Yeah I would like to know what action was taken , just do that I know that zos are policing their game

BigBragg

You probably won't get any information on disciplinary actions, at least not without a subpoena or becoming a substantial investor in the parent company.

RefLiberty

They probably zeroed the account an left if as it is, so peeps made a great profit, the ones who spend it or sold for gold

Fischblut

I'm also very curious what was/will be done to exploiters.

Just based on what I read on forums (so I don't know if this info can be trusted), people were not punished for taking advantage of certain "financial" bugs like:

1) when everyone could create necromancer characters even if they didn't own Elsweyr, people were allowed to keep their "free" necromancer character even after developers fixed this bug

2) when everyone got Greymoor for free, people could get Antiquities skill line and, technically, could level it fast and get a mount/mystic items/antiquity furnishings without paying for "chapter". When developers fixed it, exploiters could keep all these things. Basically, they got almost everything this chapter has to offer for free, while other people had to pay for it.

Are these things really 100% true? Because if they are, I don't think something will be done to "free crowns" exploiters

Dusk_Coven

Looks like I found the answer on Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/inb5xc/crowns_added_to_accounts_in_error_did_any/

Basically, nothing happened.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Hymzir

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

Looks like I found the answer on Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/inb5xc/crowns_added_to_accounts_in_error_did_any/

Basically, nothing happened.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Well, it seems the old adage still holds true for ESO...

"Exploit early, exploit often."

Shame.

coletas

and crowns that some of us have in a game that we cant play, can be refunded? or customer explotation is not in the policies?

Dusk_Coven

Hymzir wrote: »

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

Looks like I found the answer on Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/inb5xc/crowns_added_to_accounts_in_error_did_any/

Basically, nothing happened.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Well, it seems the old adage still holds true for ESO...

"Exploit early, exploit often."

Shame.

I'm surprised they couldn't even be bothered to reverse the transactions of the illegitimate Crowns.

idk

Zos will not provide details if they provide any information at all.

White wabbit

And they wonder why people exploit on here

Sarannah

Reading that twitter makes me sick on how many players pretend to 'think' those crowns were a gift. Doesn't anyone have a moral code or standards anymore?... it's pathetic.

It would be weird for ZOS to let players get away with this, as some players payed real money for crowns. Why in the future would other players buy more crowns now, instead of waiting for the next 'issue'?

SmukkeHeks

If they’re handling that one as they seemingly does, I think I’ve found my answer to the question on what’s being done to that engine.

robwolf666

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

Looks like I found the answer on Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/inb5xc/crowns_added_to_accounts_in_error_did_any/

Basically, nothing happened.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

I'd sure like to know what they did, even if they don't name and shame. If they did just get a slap on the wrist, it's a punch in the face for the honest people. If that's all that's going to happen to them, I'm personally never buying another Crown from the store. I'll just let the Crowns from my ESO+ build up.

Ri_Khan

Wow imagine wasting time concerning yourself over such a thing. What business is it of yours? How does it affect you in any way, shape or form? Why would you even ask this knowing very well that they don't discuss disciplinary actions, especially considering that it was ultimately a mistake made on their end.

The only purpose this "discussion" serves is to demonstrate how petty and vindictive some of you are. That's not a good look.

Knightpanther

Ri_Khan wrote: »

Wow imagine wasting time concerning yourself over such a thing. What business is it of yours? How does it affect you in any way, shape or form? Why would you even ask this knowing very well that they don't discuss disciplinary actions, especially considering that it was ultimately a mistake made on their end.

The only purpose this "discussion" serves is to demonstrate how petty and vindictive some of you are. That's not a good look.

Not vindictive, its just that if nothing is done cheats will continue to prosper.

Be Safe

White wabbit

Ri_Khan wrote: »

Wow imagine wasting time concerning yourself over such a thing. What business is it of yours? How does it affect you in any way, shape or form? Why would you even ask this knowing very well that they don't discuss disciplinary actions, especially considering that it was ultimately a mistake made on their end.

The only purpose this "discussion" serves is to demonstrate how petty and vindictive some of you are. That's not a good look.

So you believe that we should just let people just do want they want and get away with it , don’t think anyone is being petty all they want to know is that did are policing their game , but with statements like yours I wonder if you are one of those that would take advantage of and exploit

Gilvoth

privacy is should be allowed instead of name and shame people.

robwolf666

White wabbit wrote: »

...but with statements like yours I wonder if you are one of those that would take advantage of and exploit...

Exactly. I don't see why anyone who didn't exploit what was an obvious mistake would be offended by wanting to know what action was taken against those who did. After all, if no action is taken, it just encourages more such behaviour in the future. Plus it's a middle finger to the people who were honest about it. They should at the very least have the items they bought removed.

And before anyone says that's too difficult, it's not, it's simple maths:
How many Crowns did X have before the windfall?
What did they buy after receiving it?
Did they have enough Crowns to buy those items before the windfall?
No? They exploited it.

Dusk_Coven

Ri_Khan wrote: »

Wow imagine wasting time concerning yourself over such a thing. What business is it of yours? How does it affect you in any way, shape or form? Why would you even ask this knowing very well that they don't discuss disciplinary actions, especially considering that it was ultimately a mistake made on their end.

The only purpose this "discussion" serves is to demonstrate how petty and vindictive some of you are. That's not a good look.

Completely irrelevant. The ZOS tweet clearly says spending the Crowns is an exploit.

And we now know that when ZOS says that, it's worthless. That's the point of this thread -- to find out whether ZOS actually does anything.

Gilvoth wrote: »

privacy is should be allowed instead of name and shame people.

And who asked for naming and shaming exactly? Asking for a summary / stats doesn't involve naming and shaming.
SWTOR and FFXIV both publish stats regularly -- what type of action, how many accounts affected. Sometimes SWTOR says how many people have been long-time subs because it's sad when they see they have to take permanent action on people who have subbed since launch. But no naming and shaming is needed at all.

Stats and a summary are more proof of action than we ever get here. And now we know why.

pod88kk

Ri_Khan wrote: »

Wow imagine wasting time concerning yourself over such a thing. What business is it of yours? How does it affect you in any way, shape or form? Why would you even ask this knowing very well that they don't discuss disciplinary actions, especially considering that it was ultimately a mistake made on their end.

The only purpose this "discussion" serves is to demonstrate how petty and vindictive some of you are. That's not a good look.

My guess is they're checking to see if they can get away with it too the next time it happens

Left4Daud

All they got is a warning huh? Doesn’t surprise me at all. They’ve proven time and time again that it doesn’t pay to be honest when they make mistakes like this.

“If actually punishing exploiters is gonna be hard then we don’t wanna be right.”

Maybe they should add that line to the TOS. What a joke.