Maintenance EU

ZaroktheImmortal

I'm an Aussie and don't even have our own server and maintenance time is in our evenings when most are at home. I think if anyone has a right to complain it's us but I'm like eh whatever I can play it tomorrow.

Chilly-McFreeze

Karthus wrote: »

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Hotel6 wrote: »

I hope you dont have bigger problems than this.

Nice killer argument.

Where is the argument btw? This guy doesnt care that he spending money and getting like 50% of the product i guess. Its like pay for banana and get rotten one (not the best example but hope you get the point)

True.

However, with stadia players being forced down the servers troats the maints will become be-weekly. Or did they only mean patches?

L_Nici

I don't get your problem, it is the best time to do it. US is asleep and EU should be at work, in school or similar, it is the time with the lowest demand.

stargazer69

There is only one version of the client. If it is patched, then it has to work with both servers (which will both have to be running the patched version). This is why they are done all at the same time otherwise you have unmatch code bases running and the client would break for one of them

Chilly-McFreeze

stargazer69 wrote: »

There is only one version of the client. If it is patched, then it has to work with both servers (which will both have to be running the patched version). This is why they are done all at the same time otherwise you have unmatch code bases running and the client would break for one of them

So I guess they changed it a while back? They had seperate maintenance times for EU and US in the past.

Greystag

Because despite the EU server being more populated and probably bringing in more money than the NA server we apparently deserve to be treated like second-class citizens when it comes to server quality and maintenance/event timing.

Why do they give the US a preferential treatment? Idk, but check out ZOS' Board of Directors.

essi2

DrOuttaSight wrote: »

They (Those That Reside in Zo$ Towers),
should consider splitting the maintenance time,
for example : one week NU/EU at 08:00am, then EU/NU the week after 08:00am.

Double the work for nearly zero benefit.

This would also require going back to having 2 clients, which won't happen.

Keledus

It's that necessary evil we have to live with for the better health of the game.
Start scheduling your life around it if you're that upset about the downtime, schedule things you have to do in real life during the downtime.
Downtime happens on the same day & same time almost every week or so.

ZaroktheImmortal

Greystag wrote: »

Because despite the EU server being more populated and probably bringing in more money than the NA server we apparently deserve to be treated like second-class citizens when it comes to server quality and maintenance/event timing.

I mean...not to mean to repeat myself but Aussies haven't even got our own server, bad ping, and the maintenance happens during evenings when most of us are home. So if Europe are being treated as second class citizens what does that make Aussies?

koekie1991b16_ESO

About how many hours does the the maintenance take usually? Today I am off... and wanted to play. *Cries*

Karthus

L_Nici wrote: »

I don't get your problem, it is the best time to do it. US is asleep and EU should be at work, in school or similar, it is the time with the lowest demand.

So your point is, everyone work 5/2? I am working 3/3 for example. And how about people who are still on quarantine? Dont try to make excuses for zos, all the technical works should be at late night time.

L_Nici

@koekie1991b16_ESO Well its 8 UTC to 12 UTC, which would be 10 Berlin to 14 Berlin time, which applies to most of the player base in the EU. But they can be done faster.

L_Nici

@Karthus Even if you are not at work, the majority of people is, and that means there is a low demand of players no matter if you want to play or not.

ZaroktheImmortal

L_Nici wrote: »

I don't get your problem, it is the best time to do it. US is asleep and EU should be at work, in school or similar, it is the time with the lowest demand.

Not as convenient for Aussies. We should be the ones grumbling about maintenance time. It's literally in our evening times.

stargazer69

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

stargazer69 wrote: »

There is only one version of the client. If it is patched, then it has to work with both servers (which will both have to be running the patched version). This is why they are done all at the same time otherwise you have unmatch code bases running and the client would break for one of them

So I guess they changed it a while back? They had seperate maintenance times for EU and US in the past.

They can do 'normal' server maint at different times, however, today is a patching maint.

West93

koekie1991b16_ESO wrote: »

About how many hours does the the maintenance take usually? Today I am off... and wanted to play. *Cries*

PC EU server is back on.

Alamakot

stargazer69 wrote: »

There is only one version of the client. If it is patched, then it has to work with both servers (which will both have to be running the patched version). This is why they are done all at the same time otherwise you have unmatch code bases running and the client would break for one of them

Not always...
Just rewind several pages of this board, you may find posts displaying total crash of EU megaservers just after Greymoor release, when players were unable to log in and play, while NA worked as intended

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

VDoom1 wrote: »

In the US it's a lot easier to see peak game time, so it's easier to schedule maintenance so it disturbs as few players as possible. While in the EU peak game time is more gradual and longer.

Not arguing with the other parts of your post, but this is completely wrong, and ZOS has officially stated as much. It's actually the other way around: the NA players are spread out across four time zones, with large population centers in all of them, while a majority of the EU players are in a single time zone. True, Russia is added to the mix to spread it out a little, but according to official statements from ZOS, there is a notably sharper peak in traffic on the EU server than the NA server -- so much so that they are blaming a lot of the EU server problems on it.

Fischblut

It's that necessary evil we have to live with for the better health of the game.

I wonder how other game manages to never go offline. We simply get message in game "New build available. Your game will restart in 2 hours." Players can wait and keep playing, or restart the game immediately - it downloads small patch, and players can continue their gaming again. Talking about performance: I can fly on Griffon on crazy speed there without problems, while in ESO I can get loading screens in the middle of nowhere while walking on normal speed

It's 2020, you should be asking why does the game go down for maintenance at all, outside of exceptional circumstances.

Agree.

ZaroktheImmortal

Fischblut wrote: »

It's that necessary evil we have to live with for the better health of the game.

I wonder how other game manages to never go offline. We simply get message in game "New build available. Your game will restart in 2 hours." Players can wait and keep playing, or restart the game immediately - it downloads small patch, and players can continue their gaming again. Talking about performance: I can fly on Griffon on crazy speed there without problems, while in ESO I can get loading screens in the middle of nowhere while walking on normal speed

It's 2020, you should be asking why does the game go down for maintenance at all, outside of exceptional circumstances.

Agree.

Most games if they have a server do go offline at some point at least for MMOs. Even WoW has down times.

maboleth

All this for Stadia garbage... delayed real updates.

colossalvoids

I'd take maintenances twice a week if they'll fix anything lol

Funny enough this one wasn't about as at all, just prep for stadia launch which shouldn't be a thing even in current game state

moonsister

I am missing the patch notes.

moonsister

I mean..i cannot be only for stadia, right? And the nexr patch for fixes in two weeks? That cant be right?

redgreensunset

VDoom1 wrote: »

In the US it's a lot easier to see peak game time, so it's easier to schedule maintenance so it disturbs as few players as possible. While in the EU peak game time is more gradual and longer. And let's not forget many who work at Zenimax work in the US, meaning it's early morning for them but it's in the middle of the day for us.

@VDoom1
Um... you are aware that a lot of ZOS' argument about why performance on the EU server is to put it mildly, *** poor, is that EU prime time is shorter and more compact. Here you are arguing the opposite. Like either you're lying, they are, or you all just keep moving goal posts according to what's convenient for you.
Could you all at least keep your arguments consistent or is that far too much to ask?

Gythral

redgreensunset wrote: »

VDoom1 wrote: »

In the US it's a lot easier to see peak game time, so it's easier to schedule maintenance so it disturbs as few players as possible. While in the EU peak game time is more gradual and longer. And let's not forget many who work at Zenimax work in the US, meaning it's early morning for them but it's in the middle of the day for us.

@VDoom1
Um... you are aware that a lot of ZOS' argument about why performance on the EU server is to put it mildly, *** poor, is that EU prime time is shorter and more compact. Here you are arguing the opposite. Like either you're lying, they are, or you all just keep moving goal posts according to what's convenient for you.
Could you all at least keep your arguments consistent or is that far too much to ask?

Except that is 'crap' as the PC-EU server is a bag of nails 24/7/365
so it cannot be primetime, maybe it's not near us (is more likley)

VDoom1

redgreensunset wrote: »

VDoom1 wrote: »

In the US it's a lot easier to see peak game time, so it's easier to schedule maintenance so it disturbs as few players as possible. While in the EU peak game time is more gradual and longer. And let's not forget many who work at Zenimax work in the US, meaning it's early morning for them but it's in the middle of the day for us.

@VDoom1
Um... you are aware that a lot of ZOS' argument about why performance on the EU server is to put it mildly, *** poor, is that EU prime time is shorter and more compact. Here you are arguing the opposite. Like either you're lying, they are, or you all just keep moving goal posts according to what's convenient for you.
Could you all at least keep your arguments consistent or is that far too much to ask?

Gythral wrote: »

redgreensunset wrote: »

VDoom1 wrote: »

In the US it's a lot easier to see peak game time, so it's easier to schedule maintenance so it disturbs as few players as possible. While in the EU peak game time is more gradual and longer. And let's not forget many who work at Zenimax work in the US, meaning it's early morning for them but it's in the middle of the day for us.

@VDoom1
Um... you are aware that a lot of ZOS' argument about why performance on the EU server is to put it mildly, *** poor, is that EU prime time is shorter and more compact. Here you are arguing the opposite. Like either you're lying, they are, or you all just keep moving goal posts according to what's convenient for you.
Could you all at least keep your arguments consistent or is that far too much to ask?

Except that is 'crap' as the PC-EU server is a bag of nails 24/7/365
so it cannot be primetime, maybe it's not near us (is more likley)

Yah I got that mixed up, just disregard it.

gatekeeper13

Watchdog wrote: »

Karthus wrote: »

I dont get it ZOS. I pay for a game which i cant even play each monday, cause of your "maintenance". How about you are going to do your "maintenance" at night so people can play the game. I mean EU time belt and US is not the same. Why the NA people sleep while server is disabled, and EU people gotta sit and wait?

Because if it was the other way round, someone from the USA would be making a similar post?

One cannot make everyone happy when time zones are involved.

Maybe do maintenance at different hours for EU and NA servers? Just saying.

Granicus wrote: »

ZeniMax Media is a $3+ Billion PRIVATE company. They do not have shareholders.!

Shareholders, owners... who cares? He was referring to those who invest in the company.

maboleth

moonsister wrote: »

I mean..i cannot be only for stadia, right? And the nexr patch for fixes in two weeks? That cant be right?

Yes, it can. They delayed regular patches for 23 days due to stadia crap. Further, due to stadia they will release updates every other week.

Cool, right?

stargazer69

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

stargazer69 wrote: »

There is only one version of the client. If it is patched, then it has to work with both servers (which will both have to be running the patched version). This is why they are done all at the same time otherwise you have unmatch code bases running and the client would break for one of them

So I guess they changed it a while back? They had seperate maintenance times for EU and US in the past.

As i said before patch maint require both servers to go down at the same time, seems like you have stadia to blend into the mix as well. I play PS4, so don't GAF