So this game is getting remastered for PS5 right? Otherwise it will die

Noxavian

Kharnamantic wrote: »

Please add cross-play between console and PC while you're at it.

I expect the game to look like the Demon's Souls or Horizon Forbidden West trailers that were revealed. PS5 is fully capable of photorealism. The gameplay of the remastered ESO should look like the cinematic trailers it currently has.

The existing graphics of this 7(!) year old game (released 2014) are heavily showing their age - very washed out, low poly, and zones like Auridon are very low detail and bland. The graphics in the latest WoW expacs already beat ESO by miles (look at how dense the Kul Tiras capital is). Without a graphics remaster, new players won't be attracted to this game and it will die in a few months.

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The people here commenting about being fine with ESO's graphics are once again further confirmation that this community is abused.

Ya'll have so low quality standards it is insane. Graphics CAN be made better.

Don't lie, you'd *** your pants if ESO looked anything like the remastered Demon Souls game-demo screenshot.

You can like ESO's graphics, but admitting they could be better isn't going to [snip]

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Oreyn_Bearclaw

I love how OP thinks its the PS5 that is going to move the needle on graphics. This game is first and foremost a PC game, and any decent PC will wipe the floor with a PS5.

Ghanima_Atreides

deLioncourt wrote: »

Also, i'm looking at the footage of Kul Tiras and the graphics look pretty much the same as every other expansion.

Hot garbage. Stylized, sure..but still ugly. Way uglier than ESO.

As this photo demonstrates..ESO is not ugly.

Yeah, if this is what the OP is talking about, it looks like something out of Oblivion.

I literally have a blog dedicated to ESO screenarchery, so I know that there are plenty of beautiful surroundings in this game. I have to wonder if this is a serious thread.

SickleCider

Noxavian wrote: »

Kharnamantic wrote: »

Please add cross-play between console and PC while you're at it.

I expect the game to look like the Demon's Souls or Horizon Forbidden West trailers that were revealed. PS5 is fully capable of photorealism. The gameplay of the remastered ESO should look like the cinematic trailers it currently has.

The existing graphics of this 7(!) year old game (released 2014) are heavily showing their age - very washed out, low poly, and zones like Auridon are very low detail and bland. The graphics in the latest WoW expacs already beat ESO by miles (look at how dense the Kul Tiras capital is). Without a graphics remaster, new players won't be attracted to this game and it will die in a few months.

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The people here commenting about being fine with ESO's graphics are once again further confirmation that this community is abused.

Ya'll have so low quality standards it is insane. Graphics CAN be made better.

Don't lie, you'd *** your pants if ESO looked anything like the remastered Demon Souls game-demo screenshot.

You can like ESO's graphics, but admitting they could be better isn't going [snip]

Oh, I hope you aren't misunderstanding me. I think ESO could be improved visually in a lot of ways (many of which could possibly be implemented right now), and I do hope we see improvements going forward. We just have to be careful to keep our expectations measured, because there are certain limitations that aren't necessarily ZOS' fault at this juncture. It's never going to look like Demon's Souls.

Ruder

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

I love how OP thinks its the PS5 that is going to move the needle on graphics. This game is first and foremost a PC game, and any decent PC will wipe the floor with a PS5.

You must live in a cave if you truly think that.
PS5 Hardware is roughly equal to 1000$ PC.

And believe me the difference in ESO performance between 1000$ PC and 5000$ PC is no more than 10%

Xebov

Cross play will never happen and makes little sense. Every plattform has its own database and merging them can end up very messy, especially for duplicate guild, player and account names. Its also not very favorable for console players as PC players with addons would dominate the player makret.

For the graphical overhaul there is not realy a reason. Console players are already the smaller part of the community. The PS5 will likely sell because ppl want to play the exclusive titles coming with it. Its unlikely that it will sell because of ESO. Only a small subset of the community would profit from an overhaul. The extra income that an overhaul would create is small while the cost would be very high.

idk

Elsonso wrote: »

ESO died back in 2014, twice, first was shortly after launch, due to a lack of end game content, and later in the year due to no console launch. After that, it died in 2015 because ZOS focused on console launch instead of PC.. Oh, yeah, also in 2016. Possibly also in 2017, 2018, and 2019. It is hard to keep up, but I know it will die this year due to Harrowstorm and Greymoor, with the ever popular skill desync, and probably again later this year because of something Lambert or Wheeler will say. Rest in Peace, dear ESO.

LOL> Eventually all those that called out that ESO is dead or dying will be correct. Eventually.

I doubt ESO is remastered for PS5 as it will still need to operate on PS4 and it will do just fine.

JinMori

I think eso still has years to go, but, i do worry about many of the decisions in the long term.

I think better games will probably come out, and eso will slowly lose relevancy, graphics would be nice, but not really the reason the game will die eventually.

Tandor

redspecter23 wrote: »

When this game eventually dies as all games do, it will have nothing to do with the graphics not being fancy enough.

Nor will it be anything to do with the PS5.

Elsonso wrote: »

ESO died back in 2014, twice, first was shortly after launch, due to a lack of end game content, and later in the year due to no console launch. After that, it died in 2015 because ZOS focused on console launch instead of PC.. Oh, yeah, also in 2016. Possibly also in 2017, 2018, and 2019. It is hard to keep up, but I know it will die this year due to Harrowstorm and Greymoor, with the ever popular skill desync, and probably again later this year because of something Lambert or Wheeler will say. Rest in Peace, dear ESO.

Not forgetting that it was written off even before launch, due to the competition to be posed by ArcheAge and Wildstar...

karthrag_inak

Kharnamantic wrote: »

Minecraft already got a remaster in 2019 to add ray tracing and HD textures, giving it superior graphics to ESO...

lol. yeah, right.

karthrag_inak

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Gameplay > Graphics

homm3!!! hooray!

Dovahkiin02191973

It will happen because people stopped buying it. That's the way of all things that are a business.

Keledus

People say this game is gonna die every day since it got released yet its still here. Playstation isn't the reason it's alive, even without playstation the game still has lots of players.

The game still sometimes runs like a potato, especially on consoles and you're asking for a graphical update are you crazy.
They need to continue on the performance upgrades, make the game run more stable on PS5. Continue to create entertaining content and fixing issues the game has.

A graphics upgrade for this game wont happen, you don't see World of Warcraft getting a graphical upgrade either and that game is way older than ESO.

Tessitura

I mean, lets be real this post has to be bait. But I still feel the need to point out of good the dungeon lighting is in this game.
So say what you want about the textures, but the lighting of this game is on point. Look at the face shadows and how much depth that shows.

Elsonso

Tandor wrote: »

Not forgetting that it was written off even before launch, due to the competition to be posed by ArcheAge and Wildstar...

You are correct. I did forget that ESO never even managed to drag itself to launch with its last dying breath.

idk wrote: »

LOL> Eventually all those that called out that ESO is dead or dying will be correct. Eventually.

Of course, and shortly after that, all of the "see, told ya! If ZOS had listened..."

Noxavian wrote: »

The people here commenting about being fine with ESO's graphics are once again further confirmation that this community is abused.

Ya'll have so low quality standards it is insane. Graphics CAN be made better.

PS5 has not even shipped. No one has seen, up close, what the graphics will look like. Yes, ZOS can do better. We know that because we can see up close, in the game. Likely, the same will be said about a lot of those PS5 games. We'll see, right?

rumple9

Game looks far better with a sweet FX overlay from Nexus. I don't know why zos don't incorporate these injectors into the vanilla game

Thechuckage

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Gameplay > Graphics

Hero's is a fantastic game

TheTwistedRune

I was suspicious after reading the lunacy of the first post. Then stopped reading after "Blows ESO out of the water" comment.

There has been a noticeable increase of these types of troll threads recently, mainly by "Soul Shriven".

Perhaps they should have to contribute some constructive comments before being aloud to create a thread, because this one isn't even funny. Or better yet a compulsory IQ test, to ensure you can reach a triple digit number.

belial5221_ESO

OP needs to realize also,the trailer cinematic for ps5 game =/= actual gameplay video.Cinematic trailers for ESO is way different than game,same for all other games.

CassandraGemini

Versispellis wrote: »

Are you hype for Demon's Souls? I am!

Before I looked into this thread I didn't know about that Demon's Souls Remake. Just today I was saying to my husband: "Well, let's just wait for a while until the PS5 has a better game lineup and everything, we don't have to get it right away."

Now that I've seen this I'm like: "Okay, hubby, let's get our damn wallet ready! I need that PS5 just to play Demon's Souls again!"

Beyond hyped right now! So awesome!

Considering an ESO Remaster, though, I would like it, because sure, everyone likes their stuff to be as pretty as possible, but I doubt it'll happen, and I also doubt ESO would lose players over not going this way. Most of us are probably not here for the graphics, or at least not first and foremost, and especially people who've been playing for years certainly won't leave just because the graphics won't be updated. I definitely know that will not ever be a deciding factor for me. Sometimes I still revisit some old NES/SNES games that I loved as a kid, and even though they've aged in every possible way I still love them. Looks aren't everything

idk

belial5221_ESO wrote: »

OP needs to realize also,the trailer cinematic for ps5 game =/= actual gameplay video.Cinematic trailers for ESO is way different than game,same for all other games.

Reading the OP it seems @Kharnamatic is comparing an original zone for ESO to the latest addition WoW added to their game. OP does not even try to compare recent additions to ESO to the more recent addition to WoW.

Further, When Blizzard released that expansion late last year ESO saw a brief dip in players based on Steam numbers. It lasted only a few months and the population of ESO based on Steam numbers climbed back up again. That seems to say former WoW players are happy to check out additions to WoW but in the end, they prefer a more active combat situation. They prefer ESO over WoW.

ESO is not dying on PS because Zos is not going to remaster the entire game.

SeaGtGruff

Kharnamantic wrote: »

PS5 is fully capable of photorealism. The gameplay of the remastered ESO should look like the cinematic trailers it currently has.

The existing graphics of this 7(!) year old game (released 2014) are heavily showing their age - very washed out, low poly, and zones like Auridon are very low detail and bland.

Do the PS and XBox versions have graphics settings the way the PC/Mac versions do? I've seen people posting about how good the PC version looks with the resolution cranked way up on UHD monitors. Is that sort of thing possible on consoles?

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

And yeah, 2020-2014=7 (SEVEN !!! emphasized with an exclamation mark) years.

To be fair to the OP, that depends on the months and days, as well as how you're counting the years. I mean, 1 and 2 are both numbers, right? And 2 - 1 = 1, right? So that's one number, right? No?

So if you're counting 2014 as "year 1," 2015 as "year 2," etc., then 2020 is "year 7."

Or, if you want to count more exactly-- i.e., based on actual months and days-- we're already a couple of months past ESO's 6th anniversary, which means ESO is more than 2 months into its 7th year.

Kiralyn2000

Noxavian wrote: »

The people here commenting about being fine with ESO's graphics are once again further confirmation that this community is abused.

Ya'll have so low quality standards it is insane. Graphics CAN be made better.

Of course graphics CAN be made better (I mod the hell out of my Skyrim with all sorts of Make It Pretty mods).

But you can have a great looking game with "last gen" graphics - just adding the latest shaders & GPU tricks doesn't automatically make something look good. And just because new techniques come out, that doesn't suddenly make an older game look bad.

Don't lie, you'd *** your pants if ESO looked anything like the remastered Demon Souls game-demo screenshot.

I'd worry about how big the download is going to be, and what it's performance on a non-top-end computer would be. (especially since an huge-open-world MMO isn't the same as a an action game where the levels can be designed to keep things going smoothly.)


...personally, I've never thought that the *Souls games look "good" - as in, I don't enjoy their art style & direction. Too much dull/grey/dreary. So adding more polygons, bigger textures, and better AA... still won't make me like it's style.

DaveMoeDee

They aren't going to dedicate resources to remaster old zones when they can't even get full content into a chapter right now.

VividMind

Kharnamantic wrote: »

Please add cross-play between console and PC while you're at it.

I expect the game to look like the Demon's Souls or Horizon Forbidden West trailers that were revealed. PS5 is fully capable of photorealism. The gameplay of the remastered ESO should look like the cinematic trailers it currently has.

The existing graphics of this 7(!) year old game (released 2014) are heavily showing their age - very washed out, low poly, and zones like Auridon are very low detail and bland. The graphics in the latest WoW expacs already beat ESO by miles (look at how dense the Kul Tiras capital is). Without a graphics remaster, new players won't be attracted to this game and it will die in a few months.

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so you do realize the game isn't just for consoles right? cause otherwise you'll be looking pretty uhm... not that bright

SickleCider

CassandraGemini wrote: »

Versispellis wrote: »

Are you hype for Demon's Souls? I am!

Before I looked into this thread I didn't know about that Demon's Souls Remake. Just today I was saying to my husband: "Well, let's just wait for a while until the PS5 has a better game lineup and everything, we don't have to get it right away."

Now that I've seen this I'm like: "Okay, hubby, let's get our damn wallet ready! I need that PS5 just to play Demon's Souls again!"

Beyond hyped right now! So awesome!

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That's so funny, because I was having the same thoughts about the PS5 and Demon's Souls is what has convinced me! The same thing happened with the PS4 and Bloodborne. For months, Bloodborne was my only PS4 game. Worth it.

Considering an ESO Remaster, though, I would like it, because sure, everyone likes their stuff to be as pretty as possible, but I doubt it'll happen, and I also doubt ESO would lose players over not going this way. Most of us are probably not here for the graphics, or at least not first and foremost, and especially people who've been playing for years certainly won't leave just because the graphics won't be updated. I definitely know that will not ever be a deciding factor for me. Sometimes I still revisit some old NES/SNES games that I loved as a kid, and even though they've aged in every possible way I still love them. Looks aren't everything

You know, yeah. I don't understand the idea that something becomes invalid just because it's dated. There's actually something a little charming about old graphics. It's the same cozy feeling I get from vintage movies.

JamieAubrey

Do we remaster MMOs ? and who said it will be released for PS5 ?

MurderMostFoul

First, there should not be PC-Console cross play. Maybe console cross play, but console players shouldn't have to compete against PC's add-ons and better peripherals.

Second, ESO already had a graphical enhancement on consoles with PS4 Pro and XB1X. Not a full remaster, but basically the game runs on higher settings from PC if you play on PS4 or XB1X (4k, better textures, lighting, shadows, ect.). I fully anticipate the graphics will be enhanced further for PS5 and Xbox Series X. At the very least, I expect the same graphics from PS4 Pro and XB1X, with an increase in the FPS lock from 30 to 60.

JakaWild

deLioncourt wrote: »

This post reflects the opinions of exactly one person and nobody else.

I love graphics just as much as the next guy..but get real.

People have been saying this game is dying since the day it was released. But every single year, the population goes up.

WoW is a Riches to Rags story. ESO is a Rags to Riches story.

I'm all for defending a game i enjoy as much as the next guy..but lets actually get real here.the only public numbers we have are from eso's steam charts.It's only a snippet of the population(i know,i know) but its all we really have.Greymore released? what may 26th? from what steam shows the pop dropped 17.82%.Thats JUST from steam players,On a new xpac...the population actually dropped(i assume from people not being able to log in). Eso's peak players,again according to steam,was in April 2020(+92.92%) of 49,061 players on.This happened because Eso's marketing team paid a pretty high profile youtuber to stream the game.As of today june 12th.the game has gained (+3.11%) 42,677 peak players.

Not good numbers for a new expansion release that was pulling on nostalgia from one the TeS highest bought games.And those numbers will start to drop off again as players come back,see same ol' junk thats been for the past months/years and leave for greener pastures.

idk

VividMind wrote: »

Kharnamantic wrote: »

Please add cross-play between console and PC while you're at it.

I expect the game to look like the Demon's Souls or Horizon Forbidden West trailers that were revealed. PS5 is fully capable of photorealism. The gameplay of the remastered ESO should look like the cinematic trailers it currently has.

The existing graphics of this 7(!) year old game (released 2014) are heavily showing their age - very washed out, low poly, and zones like Auridon are very low detail and bland. The graphics in the latest WoW expacs already beat ESO by miles (look at how dense the Kul Tiras capital is). Without a graphics remaster, new players won't be attracted to this game and it will die in a few months.

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so you do realize the game isn't just for consoles right? cause otherwise you'll be looking pretty uhm... not that bright

Most specifically the game is not just for PS5. It will still be playable on PS4 as Zos is not going to shoot themselves in the foot and cater to the early adopters.