Red and yellow vs Blue PVP seen by Zenimax

NicGroover

It might be time for Zenimax to stop turning a blind eye to the cheats who are ruining the PVP game. For too long the reds and yellows have played together against the blues and that is unacceptable. What disgusts me the most is that Zenimax knows and does nothing but stick his head in the sand.

You know... the Three Monkeys... there are three colors, three factions that have to play against each other is as simple as that.

colossalvoids

Lmao

VaranisArano

It's an AvAvA game.
That means each faction always feels like its A versus A+A.
That's by design.

Reverb

Every faction feels targeted by the other two. EP cries about the green alliance, AD cries about the purple alliance, and DC cries about the Orange alliance. It’s almost like...it’s a three sided war and everyone is fighting on two fronts.

But that can’t be! That would have to mean that there are fights happening that you don’t personally see or participate in, which is impossible right?

idk

colossalvoids wrote: »

Lmao

+1

Since shortly after the game has come out groups across alliances have worked together, though often it is just assumed they are working together. OP is just seeing when it happens to their alliance and does not notice when their alliance works with another to grab the emperorship.

deleted221106-002999

Even if two factions did cooperate for anything other than a temporary game-moment in order to maybe stop the third faction from flipping the map, for example, it's pvp/warfare simulation (ok, realistically its a slide-show mount simulator but that aside...) so pretty much anything goes.

I've come across groups of players from all three factions duelling in cyro with perimeter guards of all factions to ensure that someone who comes along is not going to disrupt the duelling i.e. cooperating. I found it most entertaining and went on my merry way after spectating for a bit.

I sometimes wish that some players would just play and enjoy the game and stop trying to make it less fun for others by imposing their arbitrary and often absurd standards on others.

Leslik

It's not an entirely silly statement. Just mostly silly.

You can almost set your watch by the arrival of some guilds at a particular keep. But they never turn up to the corresponding keep in the other alliance

Reverb

Leslik wrote: »

It's not an entirely silly statement. Just mostly silly.

You can almost set your watch by the arrival of some guilds at a particular keep. But they never turn up to the corresponding keep in the other alliance

That’s true, but not necessarily due to an alliance. For example there are 2 EP ball groups on PC/NA that are far more likely to camp out in DC back keeps in prime time. That’s not because they are allied with AD, but because DC pugs will spend hours feeding them and AD won’t.

And AD is more likely to try for DC scrolls in prime time because we have fewer organized groups than EP and they are more likely to be successful. It’s not because they are allied. And when EP pushes us at the same time they are being opportunistic, something we all do.

orion_1981usub17_ESO

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, until they're my enemy. If two sides that aren't in first place are concentrating their efforts against eachother... then they deserve to lose.

daemonor

Yes. And these damn cheaters all use fancy block cancel macros and abuse weaving with special gaming keyboards and mouses that are built for macros. Not to mention the insane heavy armor abusers who have 30k resistances and can tank whole zergs 1v40 without dying and having infinite resources. These damn meta chasers.

I'm an experienced nord magicka bowblade main and I've cleared most of the normal non dlc dungeons solo, as well as delves and world bosses, so I know what I'm actually talking about. Greymoor is a great expansion and the new vampire rework will make my nord magicka bowblade op. No more abusing vampire just for minmax passives. My expansion preorder was 140% worth it, have you seen them new landscapes and quests? Damn boi. Call the fire derpatment.

colossalvoids

daemonor wrote: »

Yes. And these damn cheaters all use fancy block cancel macros and abuse weaving with special gaming keyboards and mouses that are built for macros. Not to mention the insane heavy armor abusers who have 30k resistances and can tank whole zergs 1v40 without dying and having infinite resources. These damn meta chasers.

I'm an experienced nord magicka bowblade main and I've cleared most of the normal non dlc dungeons solo, as well as delves and world bosses, so I know what I'm actually talking about. Greymoor is a great expansion and the new vampire rework will make my nord magicka bowblade op. No more abusing vampire just for minmax passives. My expansion preorder was 140% worth it, have you seen them new landscapes and quests? Damn boi. Call the fire derpatment.

On a behalf of Nordic association of magicka bowblades i thank you for the words of truth.

Vietfox

Hippaugustin wrote: »

It might be time for Zenimax to stop turning a blind eye to the cheats who are ruining the PVP game. For too long the reds and yellows have played together against the blues and that is unacceptable. What disgusts me the most is that Zenimax knows and does nothing but stick his head in the sand.

Don't accuse people of cheating if you can't understand the basics of AvAvA.
We don't like/need people like you.

Dr_Ganknstein

I'll fight both but when all three factions are present I tend to attack whichever side is the zerg or has emp

Rake

whats red, yellow and blue allover
Cyrodiil when its not maintenance

redspecter23

You're worried about red and yellow working against blue? I'm still waiting for blue to work with itself.

Nocturnalan

Which camp and which server?

Because XB1 NA 30 day camps are laughable from ADs point of view, almost any given time when you look North DC and EP rarely cross each others borders while AD comes in last place regularly.

However I prefer to be the underdog 1vXing all the kids that need to be on a winning camp. I'll also take my instant ques.

Taylor_MB

Which campaign?

Because you very well might be right...





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vrJdtvrASA

...and team Orange would be perfectly justified.

Giljabrar

Maybe if blue wasn't busy 3 bar in the other campaigns, leaving greyhost lowpop, they could put up more of a fight lol

Goregrinder

The same *** has always happened in Planetside 2, TR and NC always team up against us VS. Nothing new here, you get used to it.

L_Nici

Its so funny how every alliance says they would be attacked 2v1. Sometimes its orange, sometimes green and sometimes my favorite color purple.

Sahidom

Odd. Yellow is often the "alt" faction for Blue.

Meanwhile, Blue will often employ "spies" against Red then turn around to voice complaints when its used against them.

Campaign: Blackrock

Than, you get the salty migrants b/c Grayhost has a lot of server performance issues. So they come to Blackreach b/c they can't cut it in Grayhost; hence. Why Blue often needs spies and allies with their "alt" Yellow mates.

While, I won't say Red doesn't have its own share of eye rolling cheese mongers; but its silly to say Red and Yellow team up when Blue is equally guilty.

SRASinister

Back in the day it was guilds that would maybe work together by either farming areas or not targeting each other. A certain huge zerg yellow guild on xbox basically controlled the campaign and gated everything yet two blue guilds were allowed to go into ep gates to farm it as well because a few ep players supposedly did something. The yellow guild leader controlled the campaign because of night/morning capping as well. Hell my guild has worked with other alliance guild leaders to dethrone for sure especially if someone has been emperor for a while.

The whole alliance teaming up though is just a lie every alliance tells itself. Yellow complains about team purple while they never push ash and go for ep home keeps, blue complains as well, and ep complains when going for a yellow dethrone only to take dc's only home emp keep they get. It's not alliances teaming up its guilds at the most. If I see an opposite alliance member getting ganked by a group of another alliance then I will jump in. Who knows we might target each other during or after the fight.

knowx

I think game needs another mode open PvP , like T1vs T2 without alliance, when 3rd alliance joined the fight , they always attacking lowest hp, 2 types for PvP good for everyone, Vs or vsvs