Update 26 Combat Preview

Harrdarrzarr · April 2020

But does this mean that the current state of our arena weapons will change? Or will the new perfected weapons just be stronger then what we already have?

DukeDiewalker · April 2020

Thank god the Uninstall button doesn't have a casttime yet.

tzmsce · April 2020

You cant be serious.
If you add a perfected version for vet and We All farmed vet, then we should get the vet version too.
Farming them takes ages because of rng, this means we have wasted countless hours.
This shows complete disrespect for our time and all the hours we spent to get these weapons.
(I reported your post for obvious trolling @ZOS_BrianWheeler)

Inarre · April 2020

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Hexys · April 2020

We have done these arena's after you made changes to these weapons in the past. Since these changes we have beaten the content, there is no change in difficulty of the arena, just the weapons. Making us doing it again is just you forcing us to redo old content.

You make such a nice heads-up post but if this change goes through it's such a waste of positivity here and a big middle finger to your veteran players.

Please reconsider.

marius_buys · April 2020

I tend to agree, I now regularly see top players 1vXX and take no damage despite simultaneous multiple debuffs and ultimates. If anything you need to look at how much damage LOS and structures absorb with players playing ring-a-rosie around and in structures. It's simply ridiculous and it favors heavy armor to a point of unfairness.

AJTC5000 · April 2020

Doesn't really make sense to me why the current vMA/vDSA weapons will not be upgraded? Especially with the garbage loot RNG, don't think the majority of people are going to want to be re-farming their infernos or bows!

Bowser · April 2020

We all know you have the capability to update our current items. This is a direct insult to the players.

phileunderx2 · April 2020

Not cool at all that we have to refarm our weapons. Took many runs to get my masters resto staff. I don't want to farm it again with the bs rng the game has.

mav1234 · April 2020

many of us spent weeks farming vMA weapons. please, reconsider forcing us to re-farm them as perfected.

didn't vMA weapons used to have a stat-based set bonus that was removed at some point too?

Aynethol · April 2020

I am both happy and sad about this change! I`am delighted for the people who found vMA incredibly challenging and that were behind other players due to not having the maelstrom weaponry same with vDSA. But also I do believe they should auto-upgrade the current weapons people have so that players aren't screwed over for the material cost and possible transmutation crystals they invested to make sure everything was perfect.

I guess least we have more content to redo now but it will be tedious because nothing changed with the arena`s, just the fact we are at RNGjesus mercy again and possibly will have to start refarming vMA for hours and tons of attempts to get an inferno staff again

hope a double drop event comes out for them when this change is released

veil_ · April 2020

Thats insane. So those who grinded out maelstrom and dragonstar arena when it was first released have to do it again? 4+ year old content? how is that in any way fair?

The_Auror · April 2020

Calling it now the perfected versions will just have the 129 damage bonus that was removed from our existing weapons. So we have to grind all over again just to get back what we had in the first place.

Tommy_The_Gun · April 2020

Why ? People will feel like you are robbing them. Seriously.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Derra · April 2020

They did.

Basically they nerfed the weapons in the past - to now introduce new ones with a stat bonus that you have to farm again.

endless endgame content

MattT1988 · April 2020

You responded quickly before now after being repeatedly asked to give a reason for this absolute nonsense decision, you’ve chickened out. Those weapons were earned in Vet so they should be upgraded. Man up and face the music @ZOS_BrianWheeler

What is the reason?

heaven13 · April 2020

Exactly this. I can do a vMA run pretty easily so I'm not worried about the difficulty of needing to get through again to refarm the weapons. That said, there are plenty of other things I'd rather be doing than running through vMA over and over again to get all the weapons I need when I've already done so and transmuted them all.

IonicKai · April 2020

Please do not do this. Your community that has these weapons had to grind it on vet. We have spent hours and materials grinding this gear and golding it out. That's not fair to your players to not upgrade them.

Jaxaxo · April 2020

Like literally, vMA weapons had those bonus stats already back then, then u removed them, and now u're gonna put them back, but we need to farm them once again? Is this kind of joke here?

Firstmep · April 2020

Couple pieces of feedback on what you have written here @ZOS_BrianWheeler

1. Healing reduction via battle spirit. Ill be honest even in no cp our healthbars are really only "volatile", if we are running low mitigation. Healing is one part of the current tankiness issue, but not the only part. Anyhow i still think this is a good change.

2. Crit resistance changes. No, just no. At least not with the current meta. Let me explain,
After the latest changes to dots(nerfed to the ground), direct damage, timed burst combos have become the staple, and really the only way to kill competent players. Of course most of us has turned to the 1 thing that can completely negate even the deadliest of combos: sword and board.
What the proposed changes will allow us to do, is to put on more and more pieces of sturdy gear, and become freaking unkillable, even more so than now.
It's easy to look at the crit resist changes in a vacuum and say theyre good, after all: Variety!Nice!
But really, its just going to push more people into running sword and board backbars, and turte at the first sign of trouble.
I would really reconsider buffing dot damage again, not to the point where they are as oppressive as before, but where you can actually create dot based builds on most classes without completely gimping yourself in every other aspect, as well as encourage people to run at least 1 dot, like we used to.

3. Monster set changes: Sure, works for me, id love it if you guys could look at the 1sec-ish delays on most of these sets and remove them, at the cost of higher cooldown, as opposed to higher damage.

4.VMA+VDSA changes: Sure i dont mind more people having access to these weapons, but i urge you to reconsider not upgrading the current ones to perfect, before the Forums explode into drama, and youll have to change them anyway.
We did afterall, complete veteran modes of those dungeons for those weapons, i think its only fair, and lets be real shouldnt be any technical issues that would prevent you from doing so.

5.Spectral cloak change: GREAT! Now my stamcro can stack major/minor protection, 10% from ghost AND spectral cloak. Yes, keep this change please XD

Darktrox · April 2020

I'm so mad. I mean.. it's just mean. My transmutations are hard to get. RNG. The arena itself in V is a long process... dang.

Derra · April 2020

Well - healing is definetly part of the issue.

The problem is that not every class or build does produce this insanely high healing numbers but the nerf is universal again.
This will (again - like most past changes) affect the builds more that didn´t have overblown heals in the first place.

For a build with 6k vigor crit ticks it will hardly matter that much dropping to 5k - because they had insane overhealing anyway.
For a build that only healed for 2k crit dropping to 1.66 will be pretty significant - because they didn´t overheal as much.

It shows again a disregard for actually trying to understand the issues in pvp and tackeling them directly and specifically and instead is ONCE AGAIN a sledgehammer approach that will not fix the issue but aggravate it.

ELawlis · April 2020

Another question: why so much focus on spell penetration? At least for PVE with a semi-optimized group its a less than needed set stat. Valkyn Skoria is great with health for newer players who can’t get a DLC monster set yet, and the health bonus helps them. If penetration is becoming important, it needs to be added to the base UI for console players.

Darktrox · April 2020

It's like... the older I get playing this game, the less rewarding it gets.

Like the morrowind case. Now everyone has it free, and to me it costs 35$.

colossalvoids · April 2020

That's should be looked at as we are already have taken them from veteran difficulty and also leaderboard rewards. Also having 18 characters some of which have 2-3 of each weapons in various enchantment and trait options, had transmutation stones, mats spent into deconstruction matarial again? Not even taking about farming for a right trait or a weapon type that some of us did for months grinding, why should we be punished with more mindless grind on top?

SeaUnicorn · April 2020

This absolutely makes no sense to me nor to any of my guild mates.

We spend hours upon hours farming those weapons, then hours upon hours farming transmutes, upgraded them and now you are saying they are going to trash and we need to go and redo all of that all over again?! I
will have to re-farm 3 vDSA restos, 4 vMA infernos, 2vMA lightnings, 2 vMA bows! And with my luck I will get 10 of 2-handers and 10 of S&B from each arena way before getting any of the relevant weapons.

This is so not cool and impact of it on the community it so not thought through.
You are re-making existing sets all the time, not like it will take any more effort to upgrade existing weapons to perfected than it took "fixing" Vykosa or Ice heart. There is no good reason and no excuse not to upgrade existing vMA and vDSA weapons to perfected versions.

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo · April 2020

What you are all forgetting is : Even if we have the weapons in hand, will we be able to play from 5pm - 12am on PC EU Cyrodill in a correct manner?

Cellentel · April 2020

It makes zero sense to me to lose goodwill from players by not upgrading existing weapons. They all had one-piece bonuses originally, you took them away, and now you’re adding them back but requiring the grind again.

I think the addition of non-perfected weapons to normal MA arena is great. It will help newer players catch up to vets more easily and, once they get their normal weapon, encourage them to improve and work on vet. Rewarding people who beat it on vet with an extra bonus is something people have been asking for ever since you removed them, and gives a bit of an extra reward for doing vet without creating a dramatic power imbalance. It’s a great change!

Yet, forcing players to regrind everything again...basically ruins all of that good will for no reason at all. New patch drops, do you want people exploring the new zone? Playing the new trial? Doing the artifact mini game? Or...endlessly grinding vMA again?

Pajor · April 2020

The vMA change is a disgrace. And an insult to the people who farmed for weeks on vet.

AgaTheGreat · April 2020

OMG. Do you know how long it took me to farm a vma inferno?! Months of grinding and now they're telling me they're not going to upgrade them? Yeah, go ahead - cater to the low skill and effort players. GG.