GREYMOOR DESYNCS!

Emphatic_Static

danthemann5 wrote: »

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

The desyncs happen often, especially if you do bgs. They seem to be mostly triggered by nightblades and magsorcs.

Hey! Don't make this a nerf NBs and Sorcs thread!

Well, I'm ok with nerf mag sorc threads :-)

Reverb

technohic wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

And still, we have radio silence...

Yeah. Thought maybe I was mistaken and maybe much like other salary employees every where I have ever worked; people work nights and weekends when the *** hits the fan. I guess not ZOS.

I'm sure they enjoyed their weekend as they clearly must not play the game for their personal entertainment

They don’t consider this to be **** hitting the fan though. The servers are up and only ~50% of their player base is angry.

And back in the Zeni offices today I will bet good money that there are more meetings and conversations about Greymoor marketing and launch than about performance issues.

Hell, I bet they will have more conversations about Coronavirus at work today than they will have about game performance.

technohic

Reverb wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

And still, we have radio silence...

Yeah. Thought maybe I was mistaken and maybe much like other salary employees every where I have ever worked; people work nights and weekends when the *** hits the fan. I guess not ZOS.

I'm sure they enjoyed their weekend as they clearly must not play the game for their personal entertainment

They don’t consider this to be **** hitting the fan though. The servers are up and only ~50% of their player base is angry.

And back in the Zeni offices today I will bet good money that there are more meetings and conversations about Greymoor marketing and launch than about performance issues.

Hell, I bet they will have more conversations about Coronavirus at work today than they will have about game performance.

I dont doubt they think the *** hasn't hit the fan. That's the problem and why a lot of us are angry.

And in customer base satisfaction; the words only and ~50% would never be used together. If you see a restaurant where anywhere near 50% of its customers are angry, that place is gone. Us gamers are a certain kind of special though. We'll keep complaining and saying "or else" but keep playing. I dont think that will be the case with this issue though.

ZarkingFrued

They won't

Brandathorbel

technohic wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

And still, we have radio silence...

Yeah. Thought maybe I was mistaken and maybe much like other salary employees every where I have ever worked; people work nights and weekends when the *** hits the fan. I guess not ZOS.

I'm sure they enjoyed their weekend as they clearly must not play the game for their personal entertainment

They don’t consider this to be **** hitting the fan though. The servers are up and only ~50% of their player base is angry.

And back in the Zeni offices today I will bet good money that there are more meetings and conversations about Greymoor marketing and launch than about performance issues.

Hell, I bet they will have more conversations about Coronavirus at work today than they will have about game performance.

I dont doubt they think the *** hasn't hit the fan. That's the problem and why a lot of us are angry.

And in customer base satisfaction; the words only and ~50% would never be used together. If you see a restaurant where anywhere near 50% of its customers are angry, that place is gone. Us gamers are a certain kind of special though. We'll keep complaining and saying "or else" but keep playing. I dont think that will be the case with this issue though.

and then when they are all out of a job because the game failed they will be sitting there confused on what happened.

danthemann5

It's Monday afternoon, and the silence is deafening.

When it comes to answering the question of why the game failed, those responsible will have no problem shifting the blame elsewhere. It's not their fault, you see, they we just doing the best they could with that they had to work with. It's someone else's fault. Those guys that quit or were fired or whatever.

If that smells like BS, it's because it is, but that's what will happen.

Meanwhile, Rome is still burning...

Emphatic_Static

danthemann5 wrote: »

It's Monday afternoon, and the silence is deafening.

When it comes to answering the question of why the game failed, those responsible will have no problem shifting the blame elsewhere. It's not their fault, you see, they we just doing the best they could with that they had to work with. It's someone else's fault. Those guys that quit or were fired or whatever.

If that smells like BS, it's because it is, but that's what will happen.

Meanwhile, Rome is still burning...

Them saying there's no maintenance this week because they want to make sure their fixes are stable seems to me like buying another week because they still have no idea how to fix what they broke. I'll be suprised if anything gets addressed by the chapter release. They MUST make that deadline, so performance will be an afterthought, as per usual.

We will see. Maybe next Monday a release will fix all the problems. Seems plausible with their track record of fixing things......

relentless_turnip

Emphatic_Static wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

It's Monday afternoon, and the silence is deafening.

When it comes to answering the question of why the game failed, those responsible will have no problem shifting the blame elsewhere. It's not their fault, you see, they we just doing the best they could with that they had to work with. It's someone else's fault. Those guys that quit or were fired or whatever.

If that smells like BS, it's because it is, but that's what will happen.

Meanwhile, Rome is still burning...

Them saying there's no maintenance this week because they want to make sure their fixes are stable seems to me like buying another week because they still have no idea how to fix what they broke. I'll be suprised if anything gets addressed by the chapter release. They MUST make that deadline, so performance will be an afterthought, as per usual.

We will see. Maybe next Monday a release will fix all the problems. Seems plausible with their track record of fixing things......

Isn't there a.possibilty they could patch it this week? Obviously not today, but later in the week?

Sanguinor2

relentless_turnip wrote: »

Isn't there a.possibilty they could patch it this week? Obviously not today, but later in the week?

They´d Need to have a working fix first that doesnt break something else which they dont seem to have Right now.

relentless_turnip

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

relentless_turnip wrote: »

Isn't there a.possibilty they could patch it this week? Obviously not today, but later in the week?

They´d Need to have a working fix first that doesnt break something else which they dont seem to have Right now.

So a slim one then 😂 thanks for replying 👍

redgreensunset

relentless_turnip wrote: »

Emphatic_Static wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

It's Monday afternoon, and the silence is deafening.

When it comes to answering the question of why the game failed, those responsible will have no problem shifting the blame elsewhere. It's not their fault, you see, they we just doing the best they could with that they had to work with. It's someone else's fault. Those guys that quit or were fired or whatever.

If that smells like BS, it's because it is, but that's what will happen.

Meanwhile, Rome is still burning...

Them saying there's no maintenance this week because they want to make sure their fixes are stable seems to me like buying another week because they still have no idea how to fix what they broke. I'll be suprised if anything gets addressed by the chapter release. They MUST make that deadline, so performance will be an afterthought, as per usual.

We will see. Maybe next Monday a release will fix all the problems. Seems plausible with their track record of fixing things......

Isn't there a.possibilty they could patch it this week? Obviously not today, but later in the week?

It's certainly possible. I hope so. But I can understand them not wanting to introduce patch that fixes one thing only to break another and wait to roll it out until they've made it so it doesn't do that. If they get it fixed during the week I could see them making a maintenance with short announcement period. Like "we have patch maintenance tomorrow between X and Y".
I hope so. Though I'm not overly affected it's annoying and I can see how for some people this is a disaster. But I also understand not wanting to commit to a deadline they may not be able to keep.

And for what it's worth, the people making Greymoor (and content in general) and those fixing bugs, are not the same people at all. Generally speaking.

technohic

I think they are busy pushing this steamer to console this week

relentless_turnip

technohic wrote: »

I think they are busy pushing this steamer to console this week

Yeah Larry is far too busy sorting out the console patch and the fixes fallout 76 and cleaning... Poor Larry...

Emphatic_Static

technohic wrote: »

I think they are busy pushing this steamer to console this week

The fact that they are going to go ahead and release this dumpster fire to console prior to finishing a working version is unbelievably irresponsible.

I just cant understand it. It's so simple to push it back until they figure it out, who in their right mind would allow this patch to happen in the first place let alone purposefully doing it a second time to console?

Major OOF.

Just bad business practice imo.

Stevie6

Yep, server lag is terrible today. I would login and hit about 59 ms then spike between 500 to 2600 ms. Then it would go back down to 60 ms for about 3 seconds and then back up...so far it's all the time...lol

karthrag_inak

This one has discovered that when these odd situations occur, dodge-rolling seems to return things to normal. This one cannot imagine why this would be so, but wished to share.

carlos424

Yes, I have noticed ranged skills not firing, especially force pulse. Been working on MagDk asylum staff build, with new character, doing 4-man dungeons for skill points, etc., and at least a couple of times during each run I’m trying to light attack weave force pulse and end up spamming light attack 3 or 4 times before trying another skill. Oh, and I’m basically in melee range. Also, I’m on xbox and have not yet had the update (tomorrow). I have been parsing like a fiend, as well, and surprisingly have had no issues. It’s mostly in group content.

Emphatic_Static

carlos424 wrote: »

Yes, I have noticed ranged skills not firing, especially force pulse. Been working on MagDk asylum staff build, with new character, doing 4-man dungeons for skill points, etc., and at least a couple of times during each run I’m trying to light attack weave force pulse and end up spamming light attack 3 or 4 times before trying another skill. Oh, and I’m basically in melee range. Also, I’m on xbox and have not yet had the update (tomorrow). I have been parsing like a fiend, as well, and surprisingly have had no issues. It’s mostly in group content.

Be sure to let us know how your weaving improves after this update!

LOL

danthemann5

Close of business on Monday, and zero information from ZOS. I am going to take their silence to mean they have no intention of fixing these issues. Hopefully, they prove me wrong by the end of the week. If not, I'll simply move on.

Emphatic_Static

danthemann5 wrote: »

Close of business on Monday, and zero information from ZOS. I am going to take their silence to mean they have no intention of fixing these issues. Hopefully, they prove me wrong by the end of the week. If not, I'll simply move on.

They won't make a patch in the middle of the week even if a working fix is ready. It will be monday at the earliest I'd bet.

I would love to be suprised.

danthemann5

Emphatic_Static wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

Close of business on Monday, and zero information from ZOS. I am going to take their silence to mean they have no intention of fixing these issues. Hopefully, they prove me wrong by the end of the week. If not, I'll simply move on.

They won't make a patch in the middle of the week even if a working fix is ready. It will be monday at the earliest I'd bet.

I would love to be suprised.

Oh, I'm not even talking about a patch. I want communication. I'm giving them to the end of the week to make a statement, end of the month to make a fix. That's more than fair, and I've been more than patient.

precambria

Game is broken, since I can't PvP right now I am here to bump this thread. Those changes to block need to be reverted, it broke the game.

Reverb

xbobx15 wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

And still, we have radio silence...

Yeah. Thought maybe I was mistaken and maybe much like other salary employees every where I have ever worked; people work nights and weekends when the *** hits the fan. I guess not ZOS.

I'm sure they enjoyed their weekend as they clearly must not play the game for their personal entertainment

They don’t consider this to be **** hitting the fan though. The servers are up and only ~50% of their player base is angry.

And back in the Zeni offices today I will bet good money that there are more meetings and conversations about Greymoor marketing and launch than about performance issues.

Hell, I bet they will have more conversations about Coronavirus at work today than they will have about game performance.

I dont doubt they think the *** hasn't hit the fan. That's the problem and why a lot of us are angry.

And in customer base satisfaction; the words only and ~50% would never be used together. If you see a restaurant where anywhere near 50% of its customers are angry, that place is gone. Us gamers are a certain kind of special though. We'll keep complaining and saying "or else" but keep playing. I dont think that will be the case with this issue though.

and then when they are all out of a job because the game failed they will be sitting there confused on what happened.

If the game fails to the point of shut down I imagine a lot of the Dev and Support staff will be relieved to not have to deal with this crap anymore. They’ll be glad to move on to the next thing, and there’s always a “next thing” in the relatively small world of game studio professionals.

But that’s a long long way off, based on ESO profitability. Despite the crappy game stability, performance, and support.

technohic

I wonder if they've tried rebooting.

Only half joking. Anything would be better than nothing.

Kalante

PTS and class rep feedback was never acknowledged. Now the combat is broken because block is a huge part of eso's combat design and these changes nobody has been asking for just keep piling on top of one another creating the mess that we are in right now despite the fact PTS telling them these are horrible changes time and time patch after patch. Console has been broken since mayhem finished and not a single response from zos after almost a month. I could go on and on but im sick of it honestly.

Hip_Uncle_Z

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

CiNNeR wrote: »

Yes, it's very noticable and annoying since update 25 recently. Specially in cyrodill. People seem to think it's lag. Makes a good fight nearly impossible.

@ZOS_GinaBruno: is ZOS aware of this?

Yes, posted in a different thread the other day, but we are aware and have been investigating the root cause. No fix at this time, but it's a priority to fix as quickly as we can.

@ZOS_GinaBruno any update? The Desyncs and/or Latency is making the game unplayable.

Mayrael

True, happened to me in Cyrodiil: necro casts its colossus, I'm walking out of it, I die outside of it taking full 3 hits while I should take 1 at best. Awesome. Simply brilliant.

FuryOfTyphon

Update 25 is the worst patch ever released.
If this isn't fixed game is completely finished, and I've stayed through the worst of them.

Played and subbed on and off since day one.

Me and my whole guild are unsubbing, this patch has been the nail in the coffin.

I've spent over US$200 since update 25 was released on other games, because this patch is just so bad.
As have many of my other guildies, and lots more players in general, plus your losing subs like nothing before.
All of which could or would have been spent on crowns.

Unless this is fixed, say goodbye to millions of dollars.

-Uninstalls-

Emphatic_Static

FuryOfTyphon wrote: »

Update 25 is the worst patch ever released.
If this isn't fixed game is completely finished, and I've stayed through the worst of them.

Played and subbed on and off since day one.

Me and my whole guild are unsubbing, this patch has been the nail in the coffin.

I've spent over US$200 since update 25 was released on other games, because this patch is just so bad.
As have many of my other guildies, and lots more players in general, plus your losing subs like nothing before.
All of which could or would have been spent on crowns.

Unless this is fixed, say goodbye to millions of dollars.

-Uninstalls-

You will be replaced by casual flower pickers who come for "Skyrim Online"

I want this game to succeed, it truly does have limitless potential, if only not squandered by a team who lacks leadership direction and, quite honestly, passion to see this game rise to being the best MMO of all time.

This year's performance focus is laughable. I would love them to prove me wrong, but I don't think it will ever get better.

TheFM

Reverb wrote: »

xbobx15 wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

danthemann5 wrote: »

And still, we have radio silence...

Yeah. Thought maybe I was mistaken and maybe much like other salary employees every where I have ever worked; people work nights and weekends when the *** hits the fan. I guess not ZOS.

I'm sure they enjoyed their weekend as they clearly must not play the game for their personal entertainment

They don’t consider this to be **** hitting the fan though. The servers are up and only ~50% of their player base is angry.

And back in the Zeni offices today I will bet good money that there are more meetings and conversations about Greymoor marketing and launch than about performance issues.

Hell, I bet they will have more conversations about Coronavirus at work today than they will have about game performance.

I dont doubt they think the *** hasn't hit the fan. That's the problem and why a lot of us are angry.

And in customer base satisfaction; the words only and ~50% would never be used together. If you see a restaurant where anywhere near 50% of its customers are angry, that place is gone. Us gamers are a certain kind of special though. We'll keep complaining and saying "or else" but keep playing. I dont think that will be the case with this issue though.

and then when they are all out of a job because the game failed they will be sitting there confused on what happened.

If the game fails to the point of shut down I imagine a lot of the Dev and Support staff will be relieved to not have to deal with this crap anymore. They’ll be glad to move on to the next thing, and there’s always a “next thing” in the relatively small world of game studio professionals.

But that’s a long long way off, based on ESO profitability. Despite the crappy game stability, performance, and support.

That's if companies don't black list them.