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darthgummibear_ESO
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The SSD I'm using for my main ESO installation doesn't have enough free space to download an additional 50+gb on top of the existing installation. When this update eventually goes live, will I be able to simply reinstall with the new download size, or will I effectively need 130GB of free space regardless? If the latter is the case, can we please have the update available as a separate installer that doesn't require the launcher?
  • Saucy_Jack
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    Yeah I have two hard drives, one with 100gb free, and one with 150gb free. The patch notes indicate the PTS is a ~70gb download, yet when I attempt to install via the launcher, I get a "you don't have enough space" error.
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  • Fischblut
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    I also had not enough space. So I closed the launcher, removed whole PTS folder, opened the launcher and it's downloading the PTS again (~65 Gb for some reason, I thought it will be less).
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  • Saucy_Jack
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    Finally deleted and/or moved enough stuff to the other hard drive to free up 135gb of space; was able to start the ~65gb download.

    Not sure why we need an extra 65gb of free space to start the download, but there it is.
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  • Octopuss
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    So what is the size difference between live and PTS?
  • ZonasArch
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    Octopuss wrote: »
    So what is the size difference between live and PTS?

    30gb, give or take?
  • Octopuss
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    Wow, that's a lot!
  • Eldartar
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    At the moment mine are Live 82.2Gb and PTS 71.4Gb (That's with the new PTS Download, Patch 5.3)

    Gina mentioned in the PTS Patch notes that there is NOO need to delete the old PTS folder on you system as the new one will OVER RIGHT the old.
    Edited by Eldartar on January 20, 2020 9:56PM
  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    2 hours and it's at 6% :(

    How long is this going to take? Download speed seems to be throttled to 2.87mb/s.
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  • Sylvermynx
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    Can anyone tell me if I download the PTS over the weeks it's available, will that be most of the "re-download" for the update so I won't have to wait to get 70+ GBs when it releases? Right now, I have 50 GB available (free bonus) if I download between 2 am and 8 am.

    Also, about how long is a PTS cycle?
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me if I download the PTS over the weeks it's available, will that be most of the "re-download" for the update so I won't have to wait to get 70+ GBs when it releases? Right now, I have 50 GB available (free bonus) if I download between 2 am and 8 am.

    Also, about how long is a PTS cycle?

    5 weeks with a patch at least every week.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Okay, thank you idk. I've never done PTS here, as I just don't have the bandwidth (not to mention my connection cannot by any stretch of the imagination be called "fast"....)

    That's why I'm hoping I can get a pretty good chunk of it during PTS, and then not have to do a whole 70 GB at release.
  • MrGhosty
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Okay, thank you idk. I've never done PTS here, as I just don't have the bandwidth (not to mention my connection cannot by any stretch of the imagination be called "fast"....)

    That's why I'm hoping I can get a pretty good chunk of it during PTS, and then not have to do a whole 70 GB at release.

    I don't know if the files carry over between test and live, it might be a good question to put to support and see if they can give you some guidance.
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  • Skullstachio
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    Easy way to solve this (for those with money) buy a special external hard drive that is capable of holding up to 1 Terabyte of data (1000 gigabytes.) mind you it may make your wallets scream, but it’s worth it.

    I have an Emerald External hard drive for my console and, true to its word, it can hold a terabyte which is especially good for games with huge data downloads.
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  • Sylvermynx
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    Oh, I didn't think about Support dealing with that. Thank you Mr. Ghosty. I'll post over there then!
  • darthgummibear_ESO
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    Eldartar wrote: »
    At the moment mine are Live 82.2Gb and PTS 71.4Gb (That's with the new PTS Download, Patch 5.3)

    Gina mentioned in the PTS Patch notes that there is NOO need to delete the old PTS folder on you system as the new one will OVER RIGHT the old.

    You still need the space for the initial download. Even if the final install is smaller, you would still need approximately 130gb+ total space in order for the initial download to complete.
  • ajm1946
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    Have the space for the download but after 2 hours only 10% downloaded
  • darthgummibear_ESO
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    Skullstachio wrote: »
    Easy way to solve this (for those with money) buy a special external hard drive that is capable of holding up to 1 Terabyte of data (1000 gigabytes.) mind you it may make your wallets scream, but it’s worth it.

    I have an Emerald External hard drive for my console and, true to its word, it can hold a terabyte which is especially good for games with huge data downloads.

    This is a not a solution for people who like playing on SSD's. I'd rather not have to resort to installing the game on one of my several inferior hard drives.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    best thing to do is remove the old PTS files before downloading the new patch, you'll probably have to do the same when it goes live also
  • Wavek
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    It downloaded and patched in multiple stages for me and reduced the total size by about 11gb. (with only english voice overs installed)

    It did 'replace' my old PTS successfully so at least that function works.

    ESO will not use space on other hard drives for installation or patching, you need enough space all on one disk.

    If your SSD doesnt have enough space for a fresh install or this major patch, install it on a drive that does then move it over to the SSD. Its a pain but necessary if you are going to use a small drive.
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    Alienoutlaw wrote: »
    best thing to do is remove the old PTS files before downloading the new patch, you'll probably have to do the same when it goes live also

    That only solves the problem if U25 takes the place of the base game as part of the initial installation. If you still have to download the 50+GB update IN ADDITION TO downloading the base game that's the problem.
    Wavek wrote: »
    If your SSD doesnt have enough space for a fresh install or this major patch, install it on a drive that does then move it over to the SSD. Its a pain but necessary if you are going to use a small drive.

    This is insulting. Needed 130gb+ of free space for a single update is absurd.
    Edited by darthgummibear_ESO on January 21, 2020 1:31AM
  • Octopuss
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    This is nonsense. The U25 is 50+ GB because it will download the entire game. If you delete the files before, you will only download the game itself, which is U25 already. If you keep the base game, there will be 80GB on the disk which will be overwritten by the new files at some point during the update process. So if you're short on disk space, just delete the game files first.
  • RealPhoenix
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    Octopuss wrote: »
    This is nonsense. The U25 is 50+ GB because it will download the entire game. If you delete the files before, you will only download the game itself, which is U25 already. If you keep the base game, there will be 80GB on the disk which will be overwritten by the new files at some point during the update process. So if you're short on disk space, just delete the game files first.

    Exactly this. Not sure whats so hard to understand about it. :) Stop crying about the large update and be happy that ZOS is doing something to reduce overall disk space and loading times in the game.
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  • darthgummibear_ESO
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    Octopuss wrote: »
    This is nonsense. The U25 is 50+ GB because it will download the entire game. If you delete the files before, you will only download the game itself, which is U25 already. If you keep the base game, there will be 80GB on the disk which will be overwritten by the new files at some point during the update process. So if you're short on disk space, just delete the game files first.

    I ended up figuring this out on my own, but thanks for the helpful response.
  • Aznarb
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    I'm curious if we've to fully uninstall live 1st to be sur to not have some weird bug before installing the new client version.
    I'll probably do that anyway, just in case.
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  • Dogzey
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    Have both PS4 and PC. Had plenty of space on my PC so didn't have an issue, one thing with PS4 in general because space is so tight is that when a game needs to copy over itself to update (i.e ESO) you need extra space on top of what it uses so like a reserve of 50-100gb that isnt actually being used. Thats one reason I can think of.
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    Aznarb wrote: »
    I'm curious if we've to fully uninstall live 1st to be sur to not have some weird bug before installing the new client version.
    I'll probably do that anyway, just in case.

    I tested the pts client with simply deleting the contents of the pts folder which forced the launcher to just download everything it needed. Total data downloaded was a little over 70gb, and everything runs fine.
  • SummerNights91
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    darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »
    The SSD I'm using for my main ESO installation doesn't have enough free space to download an additional 50+gb on top of the existing installation. When this update eventually goes live, will I be able to simply reinstall with the new download size, or will I effectively need 130GB of free space regardless? If the latter is the case, can we please have the update available as a separate installer that doesn't require the launcher?

    Guys we are not going to need an additional 65 GB to download this update. It is going to delete our current and re download the game. It will free up space on our hard drives with the game being a total size of the 65 GB. Everyone can calm down now
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    darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »
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    I tested the pts client with simply deleting the contents of the pts folder which forced the launcher to just download everything it needed. Total data downloaded was a little over 70gb, and everything runs fine.

    Good to know thx.
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  • The_Saint
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    Live server 83,x gb
    PTS 72,x gb

    German pts is ~1,5 gb bigger then EN because of voiceovers.
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    Das liegt an den Voiceovers.
    Depot-, game_player- und soundsets-Patchgrößen sind logischerweise für alle Sprachen gleich.
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    DE 9448,94 MiB
    FR 8277,71 MiB
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  • Octopuss
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    So the 30GB difference earlier in the thread was a mistake of some sort.
    For some illogical reason I thought the difference would be a lot more than 10GB, but then again, there can't possibly be that much unneeded data and better compression can only get you so far.
    Either way, if the result are faster loading time I'm all good with whatever.
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