[Data Mining] New information about the next chapter

redgreensunset

cyclonus11 wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

cyclonus11 wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

jazsper77 wrote: »

NO MILK DRINKER EXPANSIONS !!!!!

About this old saying "milk drinker"... I remember playing Skyrim as an Argonian and some nords NPCs calling me like that... I mean lizards dont even drink milk... because, you know... they are lizards, reptiles...

They aren't lizards or reptiles. Note the mammaries...

They lay eggs rather than live-birthing. Therefore, mammaries notwithstanding, they are reptiles.

Reptiles aren't the only creatures that lay eggs lol

Bad example. That isn't even an animal, it's nature's grand joke and the eternal frustration of scientists.

redgreensunset

Noxavian wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

well if we get blackreach and vampires we most likely also get winterhold and vampires - probably not at the same time

if we get those we most likely will see

falmer
castle volkihar
dawnguard
winterhold skill line (1h + spell?)
and therefore might also see whiterun (or riverrun) and dawnstar

Well, the dawnguard aren't vampire hunters in the second era... They only exist as bodyguards for the jarl of riften's son. Plus we don't know exactly when in the second era they were formed. They need to come up with original story lines... Not rehash tesV 1000 years before any of it happens.

There is literally nothing preventing them from editing the lore to where the dawnguard were vampire hunters/started up in the second era. We already brought back dragons, I don't see how editing things around a bit to make them hunters would be too difficult. And why wouldn't the story line be original, exactly? Dawnguard and all of that with vampires would be very cool to see from a starting perspective. We never got to see Dawnguard back in the day or meet lord harkon perhaps before he went completely crazy. It could be interesting.

Yeah since all we know about the Dawnguard for sure is that they were formed in the second era by the Jarl of Riften to contain his son who had become a vampire they could easily do the beginning of the Dawnguard. Like one of the theories on how they became vampire hunters were that they had to destroy the Jarl's son and were driven out of the hold because of that, then picked up vampire hunting in earnest after their exile. That could be the storyline for this chapter.

evvelito

Reading this thread - I don't understand why people are so against a "Skyrim" chapter. Tbh there's not much more land that they can cover, so how is it fan service to add the rest of Tamriel? It's not even out yet and we don't even have it confirmed, so why be so against it? I would understand if they released that region and it was a total rip off of the game, then it would be fair enough. But if they make it different, what's the harm? I would love exploring the rest of Skyrim (or Blackreach, maybe it will be less annoying lol) in ESO.

gepe87

The problem isnt to get a Skyrim chapter...But the way they are doing each chapter. Worst year after year: Incomplete, full of bugs, few features and expensive.
At least a chapter like Orsinium DLC would be great.

Ye_Olde_Crowe

If the return to Skyrim is set in stone, then please make sure to add my favorite feature from that game - romanceable NPCs. Please? With a cherry on top?
Doesn't have to be (and will never be) SWtOR's system. Just let me quest with/for/hire them and later place them in my home (as part of a collection XD). They won't have to accompany me anywhere - I have my assistants for this.

Nyladreas

Ye_Olde_Crowe wrote: »

If the return to Skyrim is set in stone, then please make sure to add my favorite feature from that game - romanceable NPCs. Please? With a cherry on top?
Doesn't have to be (and will never be) SWtOR's system. Just let me quest with/for/hire them and later place them in my home (as part of a collection XD). They won't have to accompany me anywhere - I have my assistants for this.

Can I just NOPE right out?

I mean NOPE!

Ye_Olde_Crowe

Nyladreas wrote: »

Can I just NOPE right out?

I mean NOPE!

You sure can nope out, but I still want my fun!

ELawlis

@evvelito the reason people are against the Skyrim isn't that it's Skyrim, it's what ZOS will do to appease people who want "Skyrim Online" and what part of that player base is.

Read these comments and you'll see why a lot of people aren't happy with the idea of Skyrim. People want to throw out lore for the sake of adding the Dawnguard to the game because "they want vampires." People on Reddit and other sites saw "Nightfall" and thought Nightingales, just because of Skyrim, without so much as looking at the lore. This isn't even considering what combat changes would be made for the sake of new players. The sweeping changes in Dragonhold were rough, but I don't want to think about combat changes after the game is flooded by "I'm gonna play a sneaky archer HA build like Skyrim" players.

And don't forget about the server issues that have plagued the game. A Skyrim chapter would probably bring in more people than Morrowind or Elsweyr, which the game needs but not without server fixes first. If the current performance improvement plan continues in its current path (i.e. not really working yet), NA may experience the same problems as EU, and I don't know what that would mean for EU.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

Contaminate wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Everyone whining about Skyrim fan service sure weren't complaining about Morrowind fan service...or Khajiit fan service...just saying...

Maybe just let fans enjoy what they enjoy and if you don't, then don't buy or play it. It's really quite simple.

Did Morrowind get released on ten separate occasions? Did any Khajiit themed game get released on ten separate occasions?

Now you know why people are tired of Skyrim anything

Well its their problem if they bought skyrim on 10 separate occasion, i did not and don do not have a "skyrim overdose"

SantieClaws

The gods they laugh at us now probably.

Laying false trails and tricksy clues … knowing full well we are going back for even more Elsweyr.

Oh yes we have caves and tunnels as well as a missing bit in the middle. Also some mountains you have not climbed up yet. Some portals probably too.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Huyen

caperb wrote: »

ELawlis wrote: »

caperb wrote: »

I see a lot of people don't want a Skyrim chapter/DLC yet, saying ZOS caters to fanboys when they do a Skyrim DLC. But what's wrong with the land, because TES V was Skyrim?

Actually I think ZOS has been doing their best releasing DLC's and chapters everywhere but Skyrim! We've had DLC's in every part of Tamriel. Altmer, Bosmer, Breton and Orc territory are covered completely and Dunmer, Imperial and Khajiit territory for the biggest part. Only Redguard and slave territory have big gaps like the Nord lands, but they have had DLC's already. I think it is time we finally visit Skyrim in ESO!

Edit: typo

It personally isn't that the zone is Skyrim, it's that ZOS will cater to fanboys when they do a Skyrim DLC. I would love a Skyrim DLC if it doesn't solely cater to people who only wanted to play "Skyrim Online", and try to fit a 4E peg into a 2E hole.

The other issue will be the influx of new players onto a (still) broken server, and the possibility of the response by ZOS when those new players complain about (weaving, nightblades being OP, demanding nerfs, etc.) and where that leaves the game when they leave.

If they had done a Skyrim chapter two years ago I would have agreed with you. But you can't say they cater to Skyrim fanboys when they have literally released new content in all the other provinces of Tamriel!

What else do you suggest? People will moan they already visited parts of the zone of it is anywhere else in Tamriel for sure.

We had Falkreath Hold already.

Salvas_Aren

redgreensunset wrote: »

Noxavian wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

well if we get blackreach and vampires we most likely also get winterhold and vampires - probably not at the same time

if we get those we most likely will see

falmer
castle volkihar
dawnguard
winterhold skill line (1h + spell?)
and therefore might also see whiterun (or riverrun) and dawnstar

Well, the dawnguard aren't vampire hunters in the second era... They only exist as bodyguards for the jarl of riften's son. Plus we don't know exactly when in the second era they were formed. They need to come up with original story lines... Not rehash tesV 1000 years before any of it happens.

There is literally nothing preventing them from editing the lore to where the dawnguard were vampire hunters/started up in the second era. We already brought back dragons, I don't see how editing things around a bit to make them hunters would be too difficult. And why wouldn't the story line be original, exactly? Dawnguard and all of that with vampires would be very cool to see from a starting perspective. We never got to see Dawnguard back in the day or meet lord harkon perhaps before he went completely crazy. It could be interesting.

Yeah since all we know about the Dawnguard for sure is that they were formed in the second era by the Jarl of Riften to contain his son who had become a vampire they could easily do the beginning of the Dawnguard. Like one of the theories on how they became vampire hunters were that they had to destroy the Jarl's son and were driven out of the hold because of that, then picked up vampire hunting in earnest after their exile. That could be the storyline for this chapter.

Since the Dawnguard disappeared after ravaging the Rift, they might have become vampires themselves, instead or despite of killing the Jarl's son. We might be in charge to clear them out.



Also, am I the only one that noticed the Hjaalmarch/Morthal symbol on the card and the crates?

Jolipinator

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Also, am I the only one that noticed the Hjaalmarch/Morthal symbol on the card and the crates?

That is the symbol for recycling in Tamriel.

RaddlemanNumber7

Bards v Vampires. FIGHT!

VaranisArano

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

redgreensunset wrote: »

Noxavian wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

well if we get blackreach and vampires we most likely also get winterhold and vampires - probably not at the same time

if we get those we most likely will see

falmer
castle volkihar
dawnguard
winterhold skill line (1h + spell?)
and therefore might also see whiterun (or riverrun) and dawnstar

Well, the dawnguard aren't vampire hunters in the second era... They only exist as bodyguards for the jarl of riften's son. Plus we don't know exactly when in the second era they were formed. They need to come up with original story lines... Not rehash tesV 1000 years before any of it happens.

There is literally nothing preventing them from editing the lore to where the dawnguard were vampire hunters/started up in the second era. We already brought back dragons, I don't see how editing things around a bit to make them hunters would be too difficult. And why wouldn't the story line be original, exactly? Dawnguard and all of that with vampires would be very cool to see from a starting perspective. We never got to see Dawnguard back in the day or meet lord harkon perhaps before he went completely crazy. It could be interesting.

Yeah since all we know about the Dawnguard for sure is that they were formed in the second era by the Jarl of Riften to contain his son who had become a vampire they could easily do the beginning of the Dawnguard. Like one of the theories on how they became vampire hunters were that they had to destroy the Jarl's son and were driven out of the hold because of that, then picked up vampire hunting in earnest after their exile. That could be the storyline for this chapter.

Since the Dawnguard disappeared after ravaging the Rift, they might have become vampires themselves, instead or despite of killing the Jarl's son. We might be in charge to clear them out.



Also, am I the only one that noticed the Hjaalmarch/Morthal symbol on the card and the crates?

Its close! Good catch.

evvelito

ELawlis wrote: »

@evvelito the reason people are against the Skyrim isn't that it's Skyrim, it's what ZOS will do to appease people who want "Skyrim Online" and what part of that player base is.

Read these comments and you'll see why a lot of people aren't happy with the idea of Skyrim. People want to throw out lore for the sake of adding the Dawnguard to the game because "they want vampires." People on Reddit and other sites saw "Nightfall" and thought Nightingales, just because of Skyrim, without so much as looking at the lore. This isn't even considering what combat changes would be made for the sake of new players. The sweeping changes in Dragonhold were rough, but I don't want to think about combat changes after the game is flooded by "I'm gonna play a sneaky archer HA build like Skyrim" players.

And don't forget about the server issues that have plagued the game. A Skyrim chapter would probably bring in more people than Morrowind or Elsweyr, which the game needs but not without server fixes first. If the current performance improvement plan continues in its current path (i.e. not really working yet), NA may experience the same problems as EU, and I don't know what that would mean for EU.

I've read the comments, hence why I posted a comment myself.

Again, we haven't even got it confirmed yet so how would we know what to expect? If ZOS were really hardcore fan service, they wouldn't released Elsweyr with dragons, right? If people expect Skyrim Online, that's on them, not ZOS. I don't think they've tried to appease those fans. I've played this game for 4 years now, and I came here because of the previous Elder Scrolls games, and I've barely noticed any fan service. Maybe I'm stupid or too smart that can actually seperate the games from each other. But that's the problem though.. since there are previous games people are going to assume that ESO is Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim Online, while other people are going to assume ZOS are ripping everything off. Either way they can't win nor please everybody. By the sound of it, the solution to keep away the Skyrim fanboys (so you can have your precious game to yourself), is to leave out the region? That's just another level of stupid, since this whole game is about Tamriel. Take a look at the map, there are barely any land left to get new chapters and DLCs on. The fear of fan service shouldn't hinder the game. Morrowind was just fine, why wouldn't Skyrim be?

As for server issues - yes, a Skyrim chapter would bring more people to the game but who says it won't be resolved until then? (and no, I don't have much faith in performance atm) And if it's not resolved.. well if this year is not the death of ESO, next year will definitely be. But that's on ZOS. Again, it's not even confirmed and people are already judging the crap out of it because of some data mining. It's weird imo. Just let things be and see what happens.

Number_51

VaranisArano wrote: »

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

redgreensunset wrote: »

Noxavian wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

well if we get blackreach and vampires we most likely also get winterhold and vampires - probably not at the same time

if we get those we most likely will see

falmer
castle volkihar
dawnguard
winterhold skill line (1h + spell?)
and therefore might also see whiterun (or riverrun) and dawnstar

Well, the dawnguard aren't vampire hunters in the second era... They only exist as bodyguards for the jarl of riften's son. Plus we don't know exactly when in the second era they were formed. They need to come up with original story lines... Not rehash tesV 1000 years before any of it happens.

There is literally nothing preventing them from editing the lore to where the dawnguard were vampire hunters/started up in the second era. We already brought back dragons, I don't see how editing things around a bit to make them hunters would be too difficult. And why wouldn't the story line be original, exactly? Dawnguard and all of that with vampires would be very cool to see from a starting perspective. We never got to see Dawnguard back in the day or meet lord harkon perhaps before he went completely crazy. It could be interesting.

Yeah since all we know about the Dawnguard for sure is that they were formed in the second era by the Jarl of Riften to contain his son who had become a vampire they could easily do the beginning of the Dawnguard. Like one of the theories on how they became vampire hunters were that they had to destroy the Jarl's son and were driven out of the hold because of that, then picked up vampire hunting in earnest after their exile. That could be the storyline for this chapter.

Since the Dawnguard disappeared after ravaging the Rift, they might have become vampires themselves, instead or despite of killing the Jarl's son. We might be in charge to clear them out.



Also, am I the only one that noticed the Hjaalmarch/Morthal symbol on the card and the crates?

Its close! Good catch.

With the exception of Ouroboros crates, that symbol has been on all crates since crates began.

Kotusha

VaranisArano wrote: »

Its close! Good catch.

It's also Illusion Magic sign

lagrue

Contaminate wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Everyone whining about Skyrim fan service sure weren't complaining about Morrowind fan service...or Khajiit fan service...just saying...

Maybe just let fans enjoy what they enjoy and if you don't, then don't buy or play it. It's really quite simple.

Did Morrowind get released on ten separate occasions? Did any Khajiit themed game get released on ten separate occasions?

Now you know why people are tired of Skyrim anything

Did you buy Skyrim on 10 different occasions? If so maybe that's where your problem starts...

I bought Skyrim 3 times, in fact... PS3, PS4 - and the original PC release - which then granted me the SE release. I also bought the TES Anthology... so I've owned it 5 times. Yet I'm still excited to see it in ESO.

How many times TESV was released doesn't affect ESO in any way because Skyrim in ESO is nothing like Skyrim in TESV. Being able to visit the same location in the past, in a completely different game, game engine and game style is nothing like a Skyrim Online and whatever arguments have been made in this thread. It's literally just the same location, styled vastly different, with vastly different actors in the plot and vastly different feel from the actual game of Skyrim altogether. The only similarities is geography and some lore elements.

People out here acting like they're making a carbon copy of Skyrim or something...

Not to mention ZOS pledged to fill out all the Tamriel map through this game's life... so one way or another the rest of Skyrim was coming. Besides once this chapter is out - guess what - you never have to see Skyrim related content again.
.

NeriaMorvayn

I would LOVE to go back to Skyrim, wooooo!!

VaranisArano

Kotusha wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Its close! Good catch.

It's also Illusion Magic sign

That must be what its supposed to be. An illusion of good loot and RNG!

Inhuman003

I like it how everyone's beating around the bush it's time for my blood clan to fight in the Secret War against the other Daedra and Flea Dogs.



It's time to rise form the Shadows my brothers and sisters revenge are king from our enemies that think our guard is down.

Nyladreas

Kotusha wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Its close! Good catch.

It's also Illusion Magic sign

A TRULY FITTING SYMBOL FOR THE DECEPTION THAT IS THE CROWN CRATE!

WELL DONE, GOOD CITIZEN. WELL DONE ZOS!

Furthermore, I am quite certain that cat eats a bit too much cheese...🤔

akdave0

I just received my loot crate yesterday and inside was a map. It shows Skyrim north of craglorn, hammerfell to the south, and black marsh to the east.

Blood_again

Well, the Gloom. May be the Great Gloom? Or even the Great Darkness?
You know, it's one of the Namira's name, yes. And our beloved khajiitis call her oblivion plan as Dark Behind the World. It should look a bit gothic I think.
As for mushrooms, the Namira's rot is one of alchemy stuff till the "TES3:The Morrowind".
Btw, you could met the part of Namira's plan in the MoL. You see: gloom, rocks and mushrooms.
So the Scuttling Void and the Namira's theme confirmed I think. But it will be a Q4 DLC, not the Q2 chapter.

Acrolas

The triskelion doesn't have an exclusive use or meaning in ESO. Even the Outfit Station symbol is a variant of one.

Salvas_Aren

VaranisArano wrote: »

Kotusha wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Its close! Good catch.

It's also Illusion Magic sign

That must be what its supposed to be. An illusion of good loot and RNG!

I like this explanation more than mine.

Asardes

They still have around 40% of Tamriel's land mass to cover. For example in Cyrodiil we only have the North and Central parts as well as the Gold Coast but a large chunk of Colovia and Niben are absent. So it could be either that, Western Skyrim, or even South Alik'r. The latter would make sense as publocity for TES6 if it's indeed set there.

Cireous

akdave0 wrote: »

I just received my loot crate yesterday and inside was a map. It shows Skyrim north of craglorn, hammerfell to the south, and black marsh to the east.

Say what? Can you post a picture of your map?

ELawlis

Not the poster, but I found images. The map is a year out of date

https://www.reddit.com/r/lootcratespoilers/comments/e1mq5h/elder_scrolls_spoilers_they_did_not_include_the/

https://imgur.com/a/84qrtVf