Please nerf Snipe, Cloak, Bosmer and Khajiit.

Vlad9425

universal_wrath wrote: »

Vlad9425 wrote: »

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

Cloak actually does need a nerf, it's way overloaded.

If you feel cloak needs nerfed then the problem isn't with Cloak its with you. So many counters to that ability all of which are very effective and not hard to use. L2P instead of asking for dumb nerfs.

Only 2 viable counters to cloak are detect pots with 30 secs cooldown, and radiant light. Inner light and hunter both have very small radius. Flare was nerfed with substantial cost increase about 200% of original cost. Aoe skill with more expensive than they are now, so harder to keep up/spam to get nb out of stealth.

I don't mind cloak if they just remove the damn garnteed crit, you already get many bonuses from sneak/stealth attacks as nightblade.

Funny how I can easily kill nightblades without even using a pot or detect ability and see others doing the same all the time yet for some reason even with all the available counters some of you people struggle with nightblades? It’s laughable at this point since the class has taken the most ridiculous nerfs already but instead of L2P you ask for unjustified nerfs lol.

Cillion3117

Nurf anyone that has ever killed me.

universal_wrath

Vlad9425 wrote: »

universal_wrath wrote: »

Vlad9425 wrote: »

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

Cloak actually does need a nerf, it's way overloaded.

If you feel cloak needs nerfed then the problem isn't with Cloak its with you. So many counters to that ability all of which are very effective and not hard to use. L2P instead of asking for dumb nerfs.

Only 2 viable counters to cloak are detect pots with 30 secs cooldown, and radiant light. Inner light and hunter both have very small radius. Flare was nerfed with substantial cost increase about 200% of original cost. Aoe skill with more expensive than they are now, so harder to keep up/spam to get nb out of stealth.

I don't mind cloak if they just remove the damn garnteed crit, you already get many bonuses from sneak/stealth attacks as nightblade.

Funny how I can easily kill nightblades without even using a pot or detect ability and see others doing the same all the time yet for some reason even with all the available counters some of you people struggle with nightblades? It’s laughable at this point since the class has taken the most ridiculous nerfs already but instead of L2P you ask for unjustified nerfs lol.

I guess the easiest arguement someone can come up with is "l2p" even though somethings are clearly not good.

SenpaiNFT

Still waiting for those duels! Everyone who says “L2P” step up to the plate or you’re a trash can!

WildRaptorX

It’s 2019 and people still moan about snipe and cloak

Jodynn

Vizikul wrote: »

You have a nice signature, it's quite ironical considering you are keep trying to degrade my opinion as worthless.

I am not just of an opinion but of debatable bias and factual data given by the game, I am not attacking you but your logic.

You say x and y are the same but they are not. It's a fallacy, stop it you've already lost.

This thread should have been closed as soon as it was open.

Snipe is a gimmick and more the easily counterable, and more than that a valid playstyle; whining about it is silly when it has a cast time and does neglible damage compared to other forms.

Cloak is easily counterable not just opinion wise but factual, there are several ways.

Bosmer and khajiit are statistically and objectively weaker than other races, I mean bosmer is a meme.

jadarock

SenpaiNFT wrote: »

Still waiting for those duels! Everyone who says “L2P” step up to the plate or you’re a trash can!

Or we play on console.....

Secondly
Play a healer or a tank spec and you learn to love your allies watching your back in stealth and cloak.

Seems like people wont be happy until all class defining skills are eliminated from the game completely. All you have to do is look at what happened to wings to see where we are headed smh

Moonsorrow

SenpaiNFT wrote: »

I would like to personally invite everyone saying “L2P” to a duel on the Public Test Server so they may indeed show me how. I would like to see for myself in what areas I need to improve.

Unless you will meet me for a duel on PTS you have no right to tell me to L2P, as it is possible I am in fact better then you.

Wait what..?

So YOU will play a Snipe spamming NB that Cloaks with Bosmer/Khajiit race and show how it will destroy everyone who duel you with other classes/races since they cannot do anything to you because you.. cloak and snipe and thus confirming it is "OP" combo that needs nerfed?

Or.. you wanna play what you usually play (what is it btw?) and duel NB and.. want to see them lose to you? Or win you? To prove your point? How?

Balance between classes & skills is more complex than any amount of dueling will ever open up to those who are stubborn to see the big picture. Most people like that only project their own failures as reasons to change the game instead of learning and modifying their own setup.

If you die often to Snipes, most likely you are fighting on bad positioning on open terrain without any LoS. Cloakers like big open areas. Do not fight on their terms, make them come on narrow areas with LoS where Snipe is pretty much useless. Stop chasing random nb on open fields. Or are you one of those people who chase discord premades into resource towers thinking that they are in trouble and thus escaping into the tower? Hint: No. They go there to kill you in a closed space. Lesson you can learn from it is that it is easy to kill anyone in closed space, even more so on Snipe/Cloakblades.

And if you want to fight on open field, totally possible also, but the uncloaked NB just escapes easier there. It is a draw then. Your choice. Or.. you want NB to be a class that always dies to you no matter what you do and how?

Meh, i`ll go waste my time on something more interesting lol.

Jodynn

SenpaiNFT wrote: »

Still waiting for those duels! Everyone who says “L2P” step up to the plate or you’re a trash can!

What kind of duel do you want and on PTS or Live?

jadarock

I'm going to lol so hard when one of you mops him up

Ragnaroek93

Give snipe a 3x multiplier when I'm aiming on someones head.

Waffennacht

Wait...

The reason Khajiit was listed was because of the additional damage added to a crit from stealth?

Oh it's got nothing to do with logical balance...

It all adds up now

SenpaiNFT

brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »

SenpaiNFT wrote: »

Still waiting for those duels! Everyone who says “L2P” step up to the plate or you’re a trash can!

What kind of duel do you want and on PTS or Live?

PTS works

Jem_Kindheart

I get destroyed from stealthed nb's sniping in cyro occasionally, usu on my healer while riding lol. Smart enough to know it's a l2p issue on my end or just the way classes are different. No biggie, res at the keep and keep on. Don't see me making crynerf threads on the last skill nb has left lol after years of being stripped and nerfed. Khajiit... Ok what's the issue there? The small crit bonus? Lol again, craft different armor and l2p and carry onward friendo. Bosmer, uhhh yeah mkay. That class has been stripped down to good for mild overland content and role-playing. Is it the 20% faster exp gain to bow skill or the abysmal 258 stam regen that is killing you? Lolololol

Szende

Its just funny... i play stamblade in med armor, but snipe spammers cannot kill me even on mount... havung no counter slotted against cloak, keep beating them. They escape and do not coming back? Big deal, looking for a more fun opponent, and do not whining about cant kill them if they escape. Not whining if dies by lots of dot and dizzy spams on live. I know, every death is my fault, not a overtuned class... Grow up please, learn, adapt. Cloak is can be countered easily with all class. Khajiit actually really weak. Bosmers... having a useless stealth detection passive, some buff after roll dodge, wich not all time like orcs dmg or nords resist. Stamregen.... big deal, the race got something to raw stats, but thats it. Regen do not kill you, do not healing automatice... all nerf what you crying for... LEARN TO PLAY issue

ThePhantomThorn

Wow this thread has really blown up.
I hope the combat team doesnt see the popularity as agreement. Hopefully...

IlCanis_LupuslI

Vanos444 wrote: »

SenpaiNFT wrote: »

The_Lex wrote: »

Anything else you’d like nerfed?

Yes actually I am glad you asked. I would personally like Healing done on other players to be halved by battle spirit, so people actually have to heal themselves in PvP. Too many people getting carried by other people healing them, it needs to stop.

Interesting idea! And something must be done to remove troll framers...

SenpaiNFT wrote: »

As for cloak, it’s a cowards ability especially paired with snipe. Spamming cloak and snipe from the back of a zerg takes 0 skill whatsoever yet it somehow does more damage then someone in your face spamming Dizzy.

Well, it's an useful ability. Just imagine an enemy player riding his cow 🐫 mount and passes over a bridge. Then suddenly he uncounters a NB that used cloak > Dizzy > Ultimate > excute > Dead. If that enemy player was not dead with his 2 button skill ( some noobs call him " Good player" because he mastered one skill by spamming like a rabid skeever) then he would cloak and repeat his 2 button rotation again.

Tbh, cloak doesn't need a NERF. It's just that other classes are far more weird to counter NB cloaker...]

SenpaiNFT wrote: »

I would like Khajiit and Bosmer nerfed for RP reasons.

Thanks for asking!

Khajiit can go to the dogs for all I care or be slaves to the elves but bosmers females are one of the good looking races in TESO.



So, NO to the NERF of bosmers...

This one would like to strongly disagree with that statement
Cannibalism isn't a very attractive trait not to mention the Green Pact.
Leave this khajiit class passives alone :-(

ThePhantomThorn

IlCanis_LupuslI wrote: »

Vanos444 wrote: »

SenpaiNFT wrote: »

The_Lex wrote: »

Anything else you’d like nerfed?

Yes actually I am glad you asked. I would personally like Healing done on other players to be halved by battle spirit, so people actually have to heal themselves in PvP. Too many people getting carried by other people healing them, it needs to stop.

Interesting idea! And something must be done to remove troll framers...

SenpaiNFT wrote: »

As for cloak, it’s a cowards ability especially paired with snipe. Spamming cloak and snipe from the back of a zerg takes 0 skill whatsoever yet it somehow does more damage then someone in your face spamming Dizzy.

Well, it's an useful ability. Just imagine an enemy player riding his cow 🐫 mount and passes over a bridge. Then suddenly he uncounters a NB that used cloak > Dizzy > Ultimate > excute > Dead. If that enemy player was not dead with his 2 button skill ( some noobs call him " Good player" because he mastered one skill by spamming like a rabid skeever) then he would cloak and repeat his 2 button rotation again.

Tbh, cloak doesn't need a NERF. It's just that other classes are far more weird to counter NB cloaker...]

SenpaiNFT wrote: »

I would like Khajiit and Bosmer nerfed for RP reasons.

Thanks for asking!

Khajiit can go to the dogs for all I care or be slaves to the elves but bosmers females are one of the good looking races in TESO.



So, NO to the NERF of bosmers...

This one would like to strongly disagree with that statement
Cannibalism isn't a very attractive trait not to mention the Green Pact.
Leave this khajiit class passives alone :-(

Omg bosmer should get a Cannibal perk and the option to activate the wild hunt with other bosmer XD

Jk obviously.

IlCanis_LupuslI

Make craftable moonsugar!!!

FrancisCrawford

Yet again somebody forgets:

Overpowered builds are problems.

Overpowered skills are NOT problems unless they lead to overpowered BUILDS.

Ellyhan

Lol. You want to nerf Khajiit and Bosmer but no prob' with Orc and Breton ? Really ? REALLY ? RE-AL-LY ?

Magic guy.

MajBludd

Why, OP? Why do they need nerfed?

Blackleopardex

Cloak is good but not OP. Cloak is so easy countered that you can't even really relay on it! You have to build/setup for being countered constantly, so many people are running detection pots ect.. Gonna be even worse next patch with the Shadow Image nerf. Like for real, the people that scream nerf cloak, also screams nerf on ALL other skills they don't know how to counter. I play with it atm, because of dot meta and because Dark Cloak is busted, but I'm ready to not use it at all in some fights, because constant detec... Try it yourself and you will see how OP it is..

universal_wrath

Blackleopardex wrote: »

Cloak is good but not OP. Cloak is so easy countered that you can't even really relay on it! You have to build/setup for being countered constantly, so many people are running detection pots ect.. Gonna be even worse next patch with the Shadow Image nerf. Like for real, the people that scream nerf cloak, also screams nerf on ALL other skills they don't know how to counter. I play with it atm, because of dot meta and because Dark Cloak is busted, but I'm ready to not use it at all in some fights, because constant detec... Try it yourself and you will see how OP it is..

Honoestly, I don't mind zos giving merciless its beserk back, incap its stun, image its range as long as they remove garnteed crit strike or stun from cloak. You already get bonus dmg for being in stealth And as Nightblade you have more passives that grant further dmg from sneak, cloak amp these bonuses by giving free crit strike and a stun if phyiscal type dmg done.

Kesstryl

Let's nerf everything, all classes, all skills, all CP, all armor, all food, all buffs. Keep them nerfs coming, let's go, cry for more, until the company has it's profits nerfed from masses of players leaving until they nerf the power to the servers and it becomes Star Wars Galaxies' younger brother.

Iskiab

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

Wow this thread has really blown up.
I hope the combat team doesnt see the popularity as agreement. Hopefully...

Hopefully they see through it, I’m noticing the more something’s defended usually the more it was used and needed nerfing. For example dizzy and suddenly there are templar threads and lots of Templars everywhere.

Ozby

Troll and baiting thread

max_only

Nerf Bosmer?????

BlueRaven

max_only wrote: »

Nerf Bosmer?????

I know, right? I mean wtf?

And for RP reasons? What does that even mean?

kojou

Obviously anyone that engages in combat with the OP should approach one at a time in melee range holding block until its their turn to fight so the OP can appropriately demonstrate combat superiority to them.

* Also please check with the OP on what sets you wear as well because you should not wear any sets that give you an unfair advantage.

Thanks for your cooperation.