ESO Performance Improvements Timeline 2019/2020

NinchiTV

-YAWN- SSDD highly doubt we'll see any change.

Ashtaris

Facefister wrote: »

When other studios announce a new game for 2020, ZoS announces performances patches.

Sheesh, you do realize that performance patches can occur at the same time as new content, right? They are not mutually exclusive.

f047ys3v3n

Sounds promising. Maybe they will fix their basic light / heavy attack system so it doesn't workin this strange and dysfunctional way. Perhaps if they are working on their underlying code, they will also address their persistent and widespread cheat problems. Those would be my issues #1 and #2.

888and888

Ydrisselle wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

I'll believe it when I see it in game.

I agree. As soon as I will see results of that I will reconsider to subscribe.

Yep... I don’t believe what Zenimax and Matt say anymore; better waiting to see some results before subscribing.

888and888

max_only wrote: »

So this is why they don’t talk to us. When they actually say something it’s all “yeah right I’ll believe it when I see it”
Or “did you pay people to be there”

This is why reasonable requests can’t get in, because of all the negativity. Have they earned your disbelief? Maybe they have. Things change, companies change. How about trying to be optimistic as a radical idea. Until they start dodging responsibility on collapsing sweat shops maybe we could vilify zos less?

If I get accused of whiteknighting with my record of complaints I swear to Azura....

It seems that you are playing in NA.
There is a good chance your answer would be different if you played in EU.

labambao

All hope abandon ye who enter here.

Elsonso

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blnchk wrote: »

"Behind-the-scenes combat ability improvements"

What's up with that, did they elaborate?

Yes, it is not part of the player-side combat ability work. That would be numbers and how they relate to other abilities. Rather, this work is about the level of demand placed on the servers and client and how that can be improved.

Banana

So another year before any maybe improvements. Hire some more people.

Itzmichi

We shall see. Words become light like clouds if used too often.

frostz417

Zos: we’ve made a timeline of performance improvement and fixes
Eso players: don’t do that, don’t give me hope

Insco851

frostz417 wrote: »

Zos: we’ve made a timeline of performance improvement and fixes
Eso players: don’t do that, don’t give me hope

Didn’t put a timeline on when skills wouldn't fire >500ms late....

dennissomb16_ESO

Will wait and see. Promises have been made by ZOS for years on performance improvements. It is a tough thing since all players have different reported performance issues (well forum players which overall is a pretty small percentage of the player base).

At least with a posted time frame players will be able to hold ZOS a little more accountable as we go forward

OtarTheMad

I am honestly optimistic about this plan. I finally see as well that fixing some major performance issues is a lot more involved and complicated than I originally thought.

If it doesn't work then oh well. I give them a ton of respect for at least trying and also being open with us honestly.

Elsonso

frostz417 wrote: »

Zos: we’ve made a timeline of performance improvement and fixes
Eso players: don’t do that, don’t give me hope

Don't forget ...

ESO players: You're just starting and I have to wait until next year?

SirAxen

Inoki wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

of all things performance is what matters the most. I don't care about housing, pets, or even chapter/dlc content. If your game doesn't run properly there is no point in even playing the game in the first place.

which is why I'm taking a break. there's simply no incentive for me to enter a terribly laggy environment where frame rates drop whilst gaming on a very solid computer. on high-end machines high frame rates on high details should be consistent.

Not saying you're using a bit of hyberbole here but I very rarely have lag and/or major fps drops while playing. PC/NA The only time I ever really notice a drop in frames is super high population keep battles and even then it isn't guaranteed. ESO isn't perfect, but I'm consistently baffled by how bad it seems to be for other people when I usually have a consistent experience night in and night out.

Korah_Eaglecry

SirAxen wrote: »

Inoki wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

of all things performance is what matters the most. I don't care about housing, pets, or even chapter/dlc content. If your game doesn't run properly there is no point in even playing the game in the first place.

which is why I'm taking a break. there's simply no incentive for me to enter a terribly laggy environment where frame rates drop whilst gaming on a very solid computer. on high-end machines high frame rates on high details should be consistent.

Not saying you're using a bit of hyberbole here but I very rarely have lag and/or major fps drops while playing. PC/NA The only time I ever really notice a drop in frames is super high population keep battles and even then it isn't guaranteed. ESO isn't perfect, but I'm consistently baffled by how bad it seems to be for other people when I usually have a consistent experience night in and night out.

And you might be using a bit of the useless anecdote.

Elsonso

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

SirAxen wrote: »

Inoki wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

of all things performance is what matters the most. I don't care about housing, pets, or even chapter/dlc content. If your game doesn't run properly there is no point in even playing the game in the first place.

which is why I'm taking a break. there's simply no incentive for me to enter a terribly laggy environment where frame rates drop whilst gaming on a very solid computer. on high-end machines high frame rates on high details should be consistent.

Not saying you're using a bit of hyberbole here but I very rarely have lag and/or major fps drops while playing. PC/NA The only time I ever really notice a drop in frames is super high population keep battles and even then it isn't guaranteed. ESO isn't perfect, but I'm consistently baffled by how bad it seems to be for other people when I usually have a consistent experience night in and night out.

And you might be using a bit of the useless anecdote.

I took some of the anecdote and it seems to work. Not useless at all. We should start passing it out to the infected.

The point being that performance and lag is an issue, but perceptions regarding degree and impact might vary from person to person. ZOS still needs to fix it, but if someone is not bothered a lot by the problem, that is a good thing.

Thealteregoroman

I think the ONLY reason why this is happening is because ESO will come to Nintendo Switch at some point. Maybe after Nintendo Switch Pro launches...I don't know.

There is no way they are dropping all this money if they know they aren't gonna get anything out of it at the end. I am thinking holiday 2020 we will see it on Nintendo switch.

Which will bring in a LOT more money for them.

Just thinking like a businessman. If you guys were ok and continued to stick around for the past 7 years with the same performance, you'll be around another 7 with no "performance" updates...especially after its taken you oh so much time making your house JUST the way you want it. You won't walk away from that.

this is coming for Nintendo Switch and they gotta make sure its...STABLE.

again im just thinking like a bu$ine$$man.

zParallaxz

scorpius2k1 wrote: »

Looks promising!



Source: From Bethesda Twitch Stream

Why the hell do we have to find out about this through twitch. Why is there no official post on the forums?

olsborg

so we will see the fixes to the gamebreaking bugs we have now...in Q2 of 2020, great..../sarcasm

Elsonso

zParallaxz wrote: »

scorpius2k1 wrote: »

Looks promising!



Source: From Bethesda Twitch Stream

Why the hell do we have to find out about this through twitch. Why is there no official post on the forums?

They said that they will be posting a more detailed set of information on the website in the next few days.

MattT1988

frostz417 wrote: »

Zos: we’ve made a timeline of performance improvement and fixes
Eso players: don’t do that, don’t give me hope

We’ve been lied to too many times for us to have hope, especially Oceanic players.

Rungar

i imagine what it is is that theyve hired personnel for their new mmo and had an opportunity to cross utilize them in eso for whatever reason.

TheRealPotoroo

scorpius2k1 wrote: »

Looks promising!



Source: From Bethesda Twitch Stream

Not a word about fixing the Akamai routing problem which is ruining the game for Antipodean players.

Audrena

So did they mention anything about fixing the massive latency that Australian players have been suffering for well over a year now? Whether they have any plans to talk to Akamai to ask them to stop routing Australian game traffic via Hong Kong and *Europe* before it gets to the USA, resulting in pings 370ms and higher, permanent "this may be an unusually long load time" screens on consoles, and the necessity to just die your way through challenging content because getting out of the bad is impossible?

Or are they going to continue to completely ignore that problem and count the money they save on what is basically a cut-price catch-all anti-DDOS "solution" that's destroying the quality of the game for an entire region?

Elsonso

Audrena wrote: »

So did they mention anything about fixing the massive latency that Australian players have been suffering for well over a year now?

They did not mention that specifically. At least, not that I heard.

Androconium

as I said in the other discussion:

I'll wait for the email advising that it's been done before I continue.

NBrookus

blnchk wrote: »

"Behind-the-scenes combat ability improvements"

What's up with that, did they elaborate?

Likely cleaning up and refactoring code to minimize unnecessary or redundant processing and data calls, and code duplication. It may include streamlining character models and animations. And/or other stuff that you don't see at the player end.

Kuratius

What you should all be afraid of is ZOS gutting in the name of performance. Another MMO called Planetside once did something similar in order to het their game to run well on consoles (it already ran well on PC and was beautiful to boot, if you weren't on a potato) but the end result was that everything just looked worse and the performance didn't actually improven that much. Reducing the amount healing ticks a server has to process by changing healing springs already seems like a step in that direction.

It's always a lot easier to reduce the amount of data that has to be processed than to figure iut how process the data in a more efficient manner.

WeylandLabs

scorpius2k1 wrote: »

Looks promising!



Source: From Bethesda Twitch Stream

It's called ESO 2 - and you have to buy it again.