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Class Rep Program Update

  • No_Division
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    CAB_Life wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    We should just give the new reps a chance to prove their worth. ZOS has already made its choices. What good is nitpicking going to do?

    Pretty much this. If we see in the rep meeting notes a discussion like "Players feel impenetrable needs to be nerfed or changed to something useful for both PvE and PvP" we know who to go after.

    I guess this impenetrable thing is going to become a running gag, and we’re going to ignore any logic, explanation or the seven other videos or so that all feature proper PvP and mitigation setups. So I might as well embrace it!

    Now that I’m inspired, I’m also going to advocate for increased lag to compensate for my, and others, trash PvP skills, more particle effects to blind and bedazzle the ninja-like elite who are a potato’s natural enemy, and just suggest that ZOS throw out collision detection and weaving ALTOGETHER—cause why not? Skill is hard, and life is hard enough, right? Let’s give ourselves a break.

    That way all matches are like a figure skating competition where we just float and twirl and casually brush up against one another with no damage to our fragile egos.

    I guess I should add the /s

    Btw: I’ll be duelling tomorrow on PS4 NA for a new segment called “Dumpster Duels”, so swing on by Deeshan in the afternoon or hit me up on PSN if you want to play against my garbage builds! It’s a free win, according to the forums! (Not a joke, unlike the above, I will be duelling from 1-2:30pm EST.)

    if you can get the devs to add additional sources of crit resists, you have my support lol. Taking 1.90 modifiers hurts lol.

    There's no castable answer to minor force off RAT, they just added basically major crit resist buff to war horn but no 120 ult answer to lights champion's major force and there's no mundas answer for 13% shadow.
  • pattyLtd
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    Congrats to the new class reps and best of luck :)

    It might not be officially dead but imho i cant really see how this system can ever have much value with everything being under some NDA but I hope i am wrong, it happened before :D

    It also doesnt feel like zos wants any feedback so far but nothing against the class reps, its zos thats the problem here.
    English is not my native language, no grammar police please, tyvm
  • Hashtag_
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  • Masel
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    Vlad9425 wrote: »
    Not sure what the point of this program is because so far what you've done is remove many classes' identities and nerfed them to the point where they're no longer fun to play. Magplar and Stam Warden are stronger then ever though...

    Read this, then come back and repeat what you just said.

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-class-rep-meeting-notes/

    But I guess it's just easier to blame us.
    PC EU - CP 1200+ All trials + HM

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    Annisca Micus - Magicka Sorcerer - High Elf - DD - Flawless Conqueror & Voice of Reason
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    Adeline Du Mont - Magicka Templar - High Elf - Healer & DD - Flawless Conqueror & Voice of Reason + Bringer of Light
    Olivia Thaloran - Magicka Nightblade - Dunmer - DD - Flawless Conqueror & Dro'mathra Destroyer & Voice of Reason
    Pu'jarr Ticklebeard - Stamina Sorcerer - Khajiit - DD - Flawless Conqueror
    Treehugger Joe - Magicka Warden - High Elf - DD - Flawless Conqueror
    Stuga Beluga - Stamina Templar - Orc - DD - Flawless Conqueror & Dro'mathra Destroyer
    Anna Terra - Stamina Warden - Redguard - DD - Flawless Conqueror
    Wamasel - Dragonknight - Argonian - Tank - Flawless Conqueror + Bringer of Light
    Nord Warden - Warden - Nord - Tank - Flawless Conqueror

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  • No_Division
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    Masel wrote: »
    Vlad9425 wrote: »
    Not sure what the point of this program is because so far what you've done is remove many classes' identities and nerfed them to the point where they're no longer fun to play. Magplar and Stam Warden are stronger then ever though...

    Read this, then come back and repeat what you just said.

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-class-rep-meeting-notes/

    But I guess it's just easier to blame us.

    we haven't had a proper meeting note in over a year? Or is that just Alcast hasn't updated since then?
  • Onefrkncrzypope
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    Masel wrote: »
    Vlad9425 wrote: »
    Not sure what the point of this program is because so far what you've done is remove many classes' identities and nerfed them to the point where they're no longer fun to play. Magplar and Stam Warden are stronger then ever though...

    Read this, then come back and repeat what you just said.

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-class-rep-meeting-notes/

    But I guess it's just easier to blame us.

    we haven't had a proper meeting note in over a year? Or is that just Alcast hasn't updated since then?

    Uh.. ye
    If I edited a post, it was for spelling. It is always because of spelling
  • Kuratius
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    Lord_Zele wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    Lord_Zele wrote: »
    BIG YIKES

    These forums are savage. At the end of the day people's intentions are positive. If you feel like someone isn't knowledgeable, then help them out. These are just the voices, help them have meaning.

    Well I can agree with you here. These people dont need flack from both sides. I mean assuming they represent the community, it's clear our opinions often clash with the devs direction

    100 Percent agreed. I don't agree with a lot of the changes in ESO myself, but I'm not going to really give our only voices (of some kind) feedback that won't help. It's all we really have, even if we feel like ZOS doesn't listen.

    “Criticism is something we can avoid easily by saying nothing, doing nothing, and being nothing.”
    – Aristotle
    AMeanOne wrote: »
    Where'd all the other class reps go damn

    From what o heard, one got banned for leaking the patch notes for this patch, two left for real life reasons, and joy got banned for letting people know why ZoS designed the necro after necro official realised.

    Doesn't sound promising.

    What was the reason necro was designed?
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    All hail our new console evoy!
  • Zorgon_The_Revenged
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    Masel wrote: »
    Vlad9425 wrote: »
    Not sure what the point of this program is because so far what you've done is remove many classes' identities and nerfed them to the point where they're no longer fun to play. Magplar and Stam Warden are stronger then ever though...

    Read this, then come back and repeat what you just said.

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-class-rep-meeting-notes/

    But I guess it's just easier to blame us.

    we haven't had a proper meeting note in over a year? Or is that just Alcast hasn't updated since then?

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/427006/class-reps-meeting-notes-july-20/p1
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/431189/class-reps-meeting-notes-august-16/p1
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/449203/class-reps-update-amp-meeting-notes-dec-7/p1
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1

    That's a years worth of notes, not including any non-meeting posts.
    Edited by Zorgon_The_Revenged on July 27, 2019 12:51PM
  • lefler90
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    Ulfgarde wrote: »
    So ZOS had to get yesmen who don't know what they're talking about because some of the former reps actually had an opinion.

    Very nice publicity stunt

    Which ones don’t know what they’re talking about?
  • lefler90
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    SirAndy wrote: »
    Nefas wrote: »
    I'm the new Werewolf class rep you've wanted :wink:
    @Nefas
    You do realize that a raid dummy parse means absolutely nothing outside of a, wait for it, raid?
    If that's your definition of "very viable" then we are doomed.
    But yeah, class rep away, it can't get any worse, right? RIGHT?
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    @SirAndy You do realize that raids have highest requirement for DPS standard? If something is viable in a raid, it is viable everywhere else in PvE. 70k in raid dummy translates to around 40k in standard dummy. Which is more than enough for any content and I don't know why you would expect more with a single bar light attack rotation.

    Parsing on a raid dummy says little about how a build/rotation is going to perform outside of an organized top level raid group.

    Try that In a 4 player (or solo) vet dungeon where you won't have all the buffs/debuffs and you constantly need to move out of red, dodge, block, interrupt, heal, sustain, shield and generally pay attention to mechanics, and then report back here.
    Then do the same in vMA. Then take that build to PvP.

    A "Class" rep should understand that a class is used for more than just the top 1% of the game.

    Blanket statements like the one above touting that a build is "very viable" solely based on a raid dummy parse shows just how out of touch with this game some people are.
    dry.gif

    I mean, I still pull 60-70k DPS in 4 man content with the exact same builds. Sooooooo.......
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    lefler90 wrote: »
    SirAndy wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    SirAndy wrote: »
    Nefas wrote: »
    I'm the new Werewolf class rep you've wanted :wink:
    @Nefas
    You do realize that a raid dummy parse means absolutely nothing outside of a, wait for it, raid?
    If that's your definition of "very viable" then we are doomed.
    But yeah, class rep away, it can't get any worse, right? RIGHT?
    huh.gif
    @SirAndy You do realize that raids have highest requirement for DPS standard? If something is viable in a raid, it is viable everywhere else in PvE. 70k in raid dummy translates to around 40k in standard dummy. Which is more than enough for any content and I don't know why you would expect more with a single bar light attack rotation.

    Parsing on a raid dummy says little about how a build/rotation is going to perform outside of an organized top level raid group.

    Try that In a 4 player (or solo) vet dungeon where you won't have all the buffs/debuffs and you constantly need to move out of red, dodge, block, interrupt, heal, sustain, shield and generally pay attention to mechanics, and then report back here.
    Then do the same in vMA. Then take that build to PvP.

    A "Class" rep should understand that a class is used for more than just the top 1% of the game.

    Blanket statements like the one above touting that a build is "very viable" solely based on a raid dummy parse shows just how out of touch with this game some people are.
    dry.gif

    I mean, I still pull 60-70k DPS in 4 man content with the exact same builds. Sooooooo.......
    Is ANY class solely about DPS ?
  • FenrisWolf1136
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    Nefas wrote: »
    I have my doubts. Nefas seemed super happy about WW nerfs in one of his videos.
    Idk about you, but a class rep being happy about sledge - hammer over-nerfs is kinda dangerous to this game... :o

    If saying Werewolf isn't dead in PvE contrary to what people bemoaned and that the nerfs/adjustments were fine or necessary is me celebrating/being super happy, I guess I am? :)

    Out of curiosity, from a pve only sort of standpoint, what of the last changes for werewolf did you feel were necessary and why? For pvp the changes make sense to me, but id like to see the standpoint from someone saying the changes for Justified for PVE. What content have you personally run and cleared with a werewolf?
    PvE werewolf player since day 1. Working towards completing all end game content with a werewolf because it is a valid endgame playstyle. Cp 830+
  • JumpmanLane
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    At least Quantum is still around...SAVE DK!
    Edited by JumpmanLane on July 27, 2019 8:37PM
    Witch up, lil' witches!
  • John_Falstaff
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    At least Quantum is still around...SAVE DK!

    Is he? Last message is from January 23rd. The DK feedback thread have grown a little desolate in the meantime.
  • Onefrkncrzypope
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    At least Quantum is still around...SAVE DK!

    Is he? Last message is from January 23rd. The DK feedback thread have grown a little desolate in the meantime.

    Quantum is hands off but he still is decent at PvP feedback. Though dk thread is dead. I just don't think too many forum goers are dks or at least have meaningful feedback. Heck every other post is about werewolf or ranged lol I jump in if there is any good conversations. As do you John. Bare the torch until my summer classes finish and I will return to double the players in there. lmao
    If I edited a post, it was for spelling. It is always because of spelling
  • NBrookus
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    DKs are being quiet because DKs are in a good spot and it's been a long trek to get there. B)
    PC NA
    Breton Magicka Sorcerer, Breton Magicka Templar, Orc Stamina DK, Bosmer Stamina NB, Nord Stamina Warden, Redguard Stamina Necro
    Dunmer Magicka DK, Argonian Magicka Templar, Altmer Magicka NB, Breton Magicka Sorcerer, Orc Stamina Warden
    Dunmer Magicka DK, Argonian Magicka Templar, Altmer Magicka Sorcerer
  • Sanguinor2
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    NBrookus wrote: »
    DKs are being quiet because DKs are in a good spot and it's been a long trek to get there. B)

    PvE dks (dps ones) would talk if, there were any left that is.
    Politeness is respecting others.
    Courage is doing what is fair.
    Modesty is speaking of oneself without vanity.
    Self control is keeping calm even when anger rises.
    Sincerity is expressing oneself without concealing ones thoughts.
    Honor is keeping ones word.
  • JumpmanLane
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    At least Quantum is still around...SAVE DK!

    Is he? Last message is from January 23rd. The DK feedback thread have grown a little desolate in the meantime.

    I saw @Quantum_V TODAY! On an EP! I’m pretty sure I creeped him out. I just stood looking at him and he broke camp! Lol.

    He MUST be testing something!
    Edited by JumpmanLane on July 30, 2019 6:02AM
    Witch up, lil' witches!
  • John_Falstaff
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    At least Quantum is still around...SAVE DK!

    Is he? Last message is from January 23rd. The DK feedback thread have grown a little desolate in the meantime.

    Quantum is hands off but he still is decent at PvP feedback. Though dk thread is dead. I just don't think too many forum goers are dks or at least have meaningful feedback. Heck every other post is about werewolf or ranged lol I jump in if there is any good conversations. As do you John. Bare the torch until my summer classes finish and I will return to double the players in there. lmao

    True, that. It's a shame people keep trickling away from DKs, and I don't have that much to contribute since I'm doing more tanking nowadays than damage. Maybe with Scalebreaker I'll shake up and try if refresher to vMA DW finally feels organic on DK. Though we may put a "brb" sign on the thread's door in the meantime, I'll be on vacation and traveling abroad whole August myself. ^^

    And @JumpmanLane , that's inspiring - you see him there, poke him with something and tell that we need him. ^^
  • JumpmanLane
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    At least Quantum is still around...SAVE DK!

    Is he? Last message is from January 23rd. The DK feedback thread have grown a little desolate in the meantime.

    Quantum is hands off but he still is decent at PvP feedback. Though dk thread is dead. I just don't think too many forum goers are dks or at least have meaningful feedback. Heck every other post is about werewolf or ranged lol I jump in if there is any good conversations. As do you John. Bare the torch until my summer classes finish and I will return to double the players in there. lmao

    True, that. It's a shame people keep trickling away from DKs, and I don't have that much to contribute since I'm doing more tanking nowadays than damage. Maybe with Scalebreaker I'll shake up and try if refresher to vMA DW finally feels organic on DK. Though we may put a "brb" sign on the thread's door in the meantime, I'll be on vacation and traveling abroad whole August myself. ^^

    And @JumpmanLane , that's inspiring - you see him there, poke him with something and tell that we need him. ^^

    You have fun on your trip. If I see him again I’ll give him an earful! I dueled him once long ago when I was first learning MagDk (I got mopped lol). I fought him once or twice on his DC long ago. He was tanky af even for then.

    I was glad to see him on an EP. Quantum is the only one of the reps I’ve seen in action. The only one I KNOW can brawl. If he can’t save DK (Stam or Mag), no one can.

    No dev plays the class at a high level, certainly not as well as Quantum.
    Witch up, lil' witches!
  • Glory
    Glory
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    At least Quantum is still around...SAVE DK!

    Is he? Last message is from January 23rd. The DK feedback thread have grown a little desolate in the meantime.

    I saw @Quantum_V TODAY! On an EP! I’m pretty sure I creeped him out. I just stood looking at him and he broke camp! Lol.

    He MUST be testing something!

    I see Quantum on his DK all the time :smile:

    I also test extensively on mine too, although right now I'm more focused on magcro!
    mDK will rise again.
    Rebuild Necromancer pet AI.

    @Glorious since I have too many characters to list

    Ádamant

    Strongly against Faction Lock
  • JumpmanLane
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    Glory wrote: »
    At least Quantum is still around...SAVE DK!

    Is he? Last message is from January 23rd. The DK feedback thread have grown a little desolate in the meantime.

    I saw @Quantum_V TODAY! On an EP! I’m pretty sure I creeped him out. I just stood looking at him and he broke camp! Lol.

    He MUST be testing something!

    I see Quantum on his DK all the time :smile:

    I also test extensively on mine too, although right now I'm more focused on magcro!

    I hadn’t seen him in a while. Yesterday was 1st time in a long time. Oddly enough I felt pretty good about it. Like SOMEONE with some measure of input is actually playing the game.
    Witch up, lil' witches!
  • ccmedaddy
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    I’m living for the responses left by @CAB_Life already. Seems level-headed and tempered. I look forward to seeing you represent your community!

    I’d have loved to see @ESO_Nightingale on this list; they’ve championed for Wardens tirelessly on these forums.

    Eitherway, congratulations and good luck to our new reps.

    Thank you! I already knew i wasn't going to be accepted. I didn't include my documents and i still need some more experience. I will probably sign up next time!
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    - Magwarden players

    (we still love you ❤️ )
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  • Quantum_V
    Quantum_V
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    At least Quantum is still around...SAVE DK!

    Is he? Last message is from January 23rd. The DK feedback thread have grown a little desolate in the meantime.

    I've been lurking haha
    Quantum - Magicka DK

    Youtube Channel

  • ESO_Nightingale
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    ccmedaddy wrote: »
    I’m living for the responses left by @CAB_Life already. Seems level-headed and tempered. I look forward to seeing you represent your community!

    I’d have loved to see @ESO_Nightingale on this list; they’ve championed for Wardens tirelessly on these forums.

    Eitherway, congratulations and good luck to our new reps.

    Thank you! I already knew i wasn't going to be accepted. I didn't include my documents and i still need some more experience. I will probably sign up next time!
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    - Magwarden players

    (we still love you ❤️ )

    Thanks! :smile: I'm still fighting for magicka warden.
    Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/AENgyPp

    Let's make frost better for everyone!
  • Sedare
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    How does one become a class rep? What is the process, to whom do I need to speak with?
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  • Xvorg
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Please, don't use the reps as meat shields for your PR stunt and treat them well.
    After all, you have reps to thank for the fact that necro has more than 2 stamina skills.

    Pretty much this. Since day one I considered it the Scapegoat's program
    The biggest problem within this game is the lack imagination on its player base and its developers...
    DragonKNIGHT KNIGHT!!!! not Dragonscoundrel, neither Dragonarcher....
    ― Our enemy was bold so we were bolder... our enemy was strong so we were stronger...

    ― Then, why did you lose?

    ― Our enemy was stupid...
    When it comes to crap, big-time, major league crap, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, ZoS. No contest. No contest. ZoS. ZoS easily has the greatest crap story ever told. Think about it: ZoS has actually convinced people, that there's a balance patch, coming next chapter, which will make you do everything you want do, at any hour, every day. And this balance patch has a special list of things it wants you to do. And if you don't do any of these things, it has a special place, full of lag and zergs and bleeds and procs and nerfs, where he will send you to die and suffer and respec and die and give AP and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

    But it loves you. It loves you, and it has lag! It always has lag! It's all-fun, all-perfect, all-lore, and all-challenging, somehow just can't handle lag! ZoS takes in millions of dollars, they pay no high-end servers, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good crap story. Holy Proc!
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