Do you care about which faction is winning the campaign?

LoreToo

Tiara_Ra wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Truth. Half the players in a campaign only care about AP, not the map.

What will you do on the map that belongs to your alliance? Especially if you play as team. For battle, you need enemy players on the map, but sometimes they can't even leave gate.

Then hold this gates!

Kr3do

Yes, it's the only reason i'm playing PvP. For the Pact!!!!!!!!!!
Cyrodiil is soooooooo much better since they added faction lock

Zabania

Big boss cared...

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Zabania wrote: »

Big boss cared...

Big Boss was a Jedi holding back to evil forces of the Sith. That's why they always night capped. There can only ever be 2 Sith online when they fight.

JumpmanLane

I don’t care if my faction wins so long as I kill the folks I don’t like, get AP and gold jewelry.

Mr_Walker wrote: »

JumpmanLane wrote: »

I don’t care if my faction wins so long as I kill the folks I don’t like, get AP and gold jewelry.

Most of the people in my faction are idiots.

Sounds to me like you want... an inter-faction civil war?

Nope. Just revert faction locks and I’m good lol. Half my faction is on my kill on sight list for they day ZOS removes faction lock lol.

DUTCH_REAPER

We (EP) can’t win it EVErY time. That would be rude. Well that and the fact that a guild chooses the NA server to night cap bc they are too friggin scared to go to a server location where they would face real guilds during their playtime. J/s cough cough tkg

Kagukan

Yes because pushing the map usually leads to good fights.

JumpmanLane

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

We (EP) can’t win it EVErY time. That would be rude. Well that and the fact that a guild chooses the NA server to night cap bc they are too friggin scared to go to a server location where they would face real guilds during their playtime. J/s cough cough tkg

You’re wrong. Most of the PCNA nightcappers play primetime and get reckt. They take naps and set their alarms to nightcap. Lol. Sad actually.

KingExecration

JumpmanLane wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

We (EP) can’t win it EVErY time. That would be rude. Well that and the fact that a guild chooses the NA server to night cap bc they are too friggin scared to go to a server location where they would face real guilds during their playtime. J/s cough cough tkg

You’re wrong. Most of the PCNA nightcappers play primetime and get reckt. They take naps and set their alarms to nightcap. Lol. Sad actually.

Not true in all cases. Guild I used to run with the leads best times to get on was late at night instead of during the day. That and we had people in the guild who worked graveyard so they fell in easily. Can’t hate on some people’s schedule but I get the pain of the map painting overnight.

Telel

If you're not playing to win with your team then you're just there to play with your own self.

For that reason khajiit prefers to do what the campaign is there for. Which is to try and help win it for your faction even when things get a bit rough and or mathematically impossible.

Kadoin

AP and Tel Var the only things I care about in PvP.

Tiara_Ra

LoreToo wrote: »

Tiara_Ra wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Truth. Half the players in a campaign only care about AP, not the map.

What will you do on the map that belongs to your alliance? Especially if you play as team. For battle, you need enemy players on the map, but sometimes they can't even leave gate.

Then hold this gates!

I mean - all map in my color. Which gate i must hold? ^^

MipMip

I don't care about faction because it's just a random mass of people, most of who I do not know, many of whom have other preferences of how to play the game than me - who happen to have chosen the same color as me (at a given time) out of three possible colors

I like team play / team sports and I care about my guild, which is a real team, where each of us has chosen to play with this team and the team has chosen that player. I play for the following objective: that my guild's raid should have great and successful fights.

Minnesinger

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

We (EP) can’t win it EVErY time. That would be rude. Well that and the fact that a guild chooses the NA server to night cap bc they are too friggin scared to go to a server location where they would face real guilds during their playtime. J/s cough cough tkg

EP can´t really win but stay at the botton place as of now. That is very nice of you. Haven´t seen TKG around for some time now so maybe you come up with some other more plausible explanation.

ServerusEcru

Faction winning matters. Cyrodiil was designed for it to matter. This is why they made Battlegrounds so players can have arenas. I think what is hurting Cyrodiil is the exploit on OP sets. I miss how it use to be, skill vs skill; back when a player can come into Cyrodiil with lowbie gear and still contribute. My suggestion is to make a Battelgrounds arena for CP so OP players can go there and PVP. Leave Cyrodiil for those who care abut the campaign and want to compete.

PunkAben

To the people who answer no.... do you play other games where you dont care with winning ?
Maybe poker with money !

frostz417

PunkAben wrote: »

To the people who answer no.... do you play other games where you dont care with winning ?
Maybe poker with money !

Yes, because those games actually have a scoring system that isn’t broken and utter trash.
Why should I care about the map when night cappers just flip the map and make up for over half of the total scoring? Primetime means nothing because a bunch of PvDoor zerglings will just nightcap the map with no resistances and they’ll just win the campaign that way.
Not to mention the scoring system doesn’t give anyone any initiative to fight because there’s far too many kids who just run 40k health, avoid any kind of fight against players, and only take empty keeps or siege players when they outnumber them.
So to answer your question. As long as cyrodiil has a brokenly awful scoring system I will never care about it and only play cyrodiil to farm AP and get good fights.

Enkil

scrolls have hyper-inflated value.. as long as that exists its SENSELESS

DUTCH_REAPER

Minnesinger wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

We (EP) can’t win it EVErY time. That would be rude. Well that and the fact that a guild chooses the NA server to night cap bc they are too friggin scared to go to a server location where they would face real guilds during their playtime. J/s cough cough tkg

EP can´t really win but stay at the botton place as of now. That is very nice of you. Haven´t seen TKG around for some time now so maybe you come up with some other more plausible explanation.

Your quite welcome!!

TKG ABC EFG whoever the guild is that night caps on AD. Are scared little boys who can’t stand up to a real guild.

/slapinfacewithgautlet

Trash is trash. Any guild that night caps bc they have zero resistance bc they chose a server where their prime time is when 90% of the population is asleep. I know it happens. I get it. But my God I would loooooooove for them to on when my guild is on. But alas they are scared to come play when prime time is so ....

Minnesinger

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

We (EP) can’t win it EVErY time. That would be rude. Well that and the fact that a guild chooses the NA server to night cap bc they are too friggin scared to go to a server location where they would face real guilds during their playtime. J/s cough cough tkg

EP can´t really win but stay at the botton place as of now. That is very nice of you. Haven´t seen TKG around for some time now so maybe you come up with some other more plausible explanation.

Your quite welcome!!

TKG ABC EFG whoever the guild is that night caps on AD. Are scared little boys who can’t stand up to a real guild.

/slapinfacewithgautlet

Trash is trash. Any guild that night caps bc they have zero resistance bc they chose a server where their prime time is when 90% of the population is asleep. I know it happens. I get it. But my God I would loooooooove for them to on when my guild is on. But alas they are scared to come play when prime time is so ....

A lot of trashing from a player whose primary guilds AotP etc. just do the same. Would really love to see a logical crying instead of randomöy spinning stories. The EP wins are just as dirty as they ever get. Do you favor stacking multiple raids if it benefits you? Once EP were pretty scary with so many good guilds but nowadys we can notice some defeatist mindset among you. These unstoppable AD guilds must be part of Illuminati to take over Cyrodiil.

Btw just for fun are you from the Netherlands?

Enkil

I’m pretty sure this is the objective alliance war thread.. save the vitriol for the campaign section...

ellahellabella

Enkil wrote: »

I’m pretty sure this is the objective alliance war thread.. save the vitriol for the campaign section...

Shhh don't talk, just watch

JumpmanLane

If it were just folks playing when they had time to play it would be one thing. But it’s not. I pvp every day. You recognize the Usual Suspects after a while.

People who actually do play primetime and get mopped across Cyrodil log in late at night, trade emp, nightcap. They set their alarms to do it. 20v1 anyone on because they get reckt in primetime.

I’m telling you I know these fools. They live in my kill counter.

anitajoneb17_ESO

I used to care back in the days when we got PVE boosts from winning or leading our home campaign.
But nowadays it doesn't matter (unless I'm on a PvP crush that week/month and get involved in the current Cyrodiil stories going on).

DUTCH_REAPER

@Minnesinger lol no man. Dutch was my call sign when I was a Navy Pilot. Retired now. Would love to visit there again though O.o

Oh am I am in Vae Victis. No exploiting from our guild. GMs will ban and report in a quickness

Ps I don’t think they are unstoppable. They just need to play when the other guilds are on instead of cowering in the middle of the night

Minnesinger

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

@Minnesinger lol no man. Dutch was my call sign when I was a Navy Pilot. Retired now. Would love to visit there again though O.o

Oh am I am in Vae Victis. No exploiting from our guild. GMs will ban and report in a quickness

Ps I don’t think they are unstoppable. They just need to play when the other guilds are on instead of cowering in the middle of the night

All good man Nice country and highly recommended. Well maybe I just stroke as a bit arrogant and you sure have a point. The guilds playing just have to face whatever opponents they have during their timeframe. I used to stay up to the see the prime time of NA server but can´t do that anymore. Well that often.

About the scoring I still have fond memories of the very first campaigns. Every guild and person was aiming at success of their faction but after some time it became so consuming to try and take the points that I personally lost some interest in the campaign scores. After that I often played where we were underdogs looking for a challenge in various campaigns. That was so rewarding that instead of the faction pride I took pride of my guilds. Still I just don´t care of the campaign so much yet it is nice to be of some help to the faction.

DUTCH_REAPER

Minnesinger wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

@Minnesinger lol no man. Dutch was my call sign when I was a Navy Pilot. Retired now. Would love to visit there again though O.o

Oh am I am in Vae Victis. No exploiting from our guild. GMs will ban and report in a quickness

Ps I don’t think they are unstoppable. They just need to play when the other guilds are on instead of cowering in the middle of the night

All good man Nice country and highly recommended. Well maybe I just stroke as a bit arrogant and you sure have a point. The guilds playing just have to face whatever opponents they have during their timeframe. I used to stay up to the see the prime time of NA server but can´t do that anymore. Well that often.

About the scoring I still have fond memories of the very first campaigns. Every guild and person was aiming at success of their faction but after some time it became so consuming to try and take the points that I personally lost some interest in the campaign scores. After that I often played where we were underdogs looking for a challenge in various campaigns. That was so rewarding that instead of the faction pride I took pride of my guilds. Still I just don´t care of the campaign so much yet it is nice to be of some help to the faction.

All good brother. No worries. Text can come across wrong sooo much. I say stuff laughing and jokingly yet it comes out very poorly in text. My apologies to you and anyone else who took it as such. Not my intent. Happy gaming bro

Mr_Walker

ServerusEcru wrote: »

Faction winning matters.

No, it doesn't really.

Remind me what my amazing prizes are when my faction wins a campaign?

idk

For rewards I would like my faction to win. However, I do understand that the win is meaningless outside of that as Cyrodiil is not designed to be an actual competitive PvP event. So no reason to stress about it.

Soul_Demon

Mr_Walker wrote: »

ServerusEcru wrote: »

Faction winning matters.

No, it doesn't really.

Remind me what my amazing prizes are when my faction wins a campaign?

The 'prize' you are playing for is the affirmation and honor of being the winner with 30 days of sustained effort showing your team played well. Basing gameplay one single engagement at a time is like playing chess and calling game after first piece is taken. I hear some people like to do that and consider that a 'win' .....but personally I like things like the Super bowl to show a team played well together for a sustained period of time just like I enjoy the way it feels when you win as a faction in this game. But I do hear there are some who just think that measure it too tough to use and would prefer one fight at a time- where they control every single outlier used and say that is fun for them.