Do you care about which faction is winning the campaign?

Sanct16

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Vietfox

As a faction loyalist "yes", but if we lose i don't make a big deal out of it.
The most important things for me are teamwork, cooperation with other groups and cyro lag free.

imredneckson

Yes and no. Yes to get the extra gold and items for winning the campaign but unless the group lead calls to defend the map, I'm game for just having some good fight.

VaranisArano

Yes. I want my faction to win, and I enjoy the tactics of playing the map to win objectives and points with my team.

Royaji

It's hard to care when the winner is decided by a small group of "insomniacs" who paint the map one color every night for a whole month. Doesn't matter what you do at prime-time, you will only have minimal effect on campaign scoring so why bother?

Ranger209

There will be some people that say no because of the fact that the scoring system needs work, and the rewards could be better, but faction lock at least establishes the teams for the duration of the campaign so that is one step in the right direction. If the scoring system gets addressed appropriately and the rewards do as well, some no's will turn into yes's. There are some that will never care they just want to pvp in their groups and will never care about the team aspect beyond their groups that is the AvAvA team framework.

Mr_Walker

Vietfox wrote: »

As a faction loyalist "yes", but if we lose i don't make a big deal out of it.
The most important things for me are teamwork, cooperation with other groups and cyro lag free.

So batting 0 out of 3 then.

Ackwalan

When you are in first place, you are playing the campaign. When you are in last place, you are just playing for good fights.

Gilvoth

i prefer to be against all the alliances as a black sheep and flagged as such.
but since that option does not exist, then i'm forced into alliance of one or another.

Corpier

I don't care who is winning. I don't care about the map. When I pvp I just want AP.

Vietfox

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Vietfox wrote: »

As a faction loyalist "yes", but if we lose i don't make a big deal out of it.
The most important things for me are teamwork, cooperation with other groups and cyro lag free.

So batting 0 out of 3 then.

1 and 2 are not that difficult to achieve, 3 is the tricky one and requires more rant on the forums

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

No because I'm not incentivized to do so by the current reward system.
If it mattered who one in order to get decent rewards etc I'd care more but atm the only thing I care about is trying to have a fun fight. AP and faction score doesn't matter at all to me.

Sandman929

Yes, because it's a game based around objectives and I like winning games, but no because it's a game with a scoring system that has nothing to do with individual effort. I have more fun playing for objectives and the fights that occur in the process of doing that.

ellahellabella

I'll play and push/defend objectives when I'm on but I don't pull my hair out over overall score.
So long as the scoring system favours whoever has the greatest pop when the server is quiet for the longest period of time, I don't see the point taking it too seriously.

JumpmanLane

I don’t care if my faction wins so long as I kill the folks I don’t like, get AP and gold jewelry.

Most of the people in my faction are idiots.

Joy_Division

When ZOS shows they care, then I will care.

Zevrro

Campaign score is based on whichever alliance nightcaps or whichever alliance has the most players. Until the scoring is even remotely competitive there is no sense in even paying attention to it.

zyk

It's more nuanced than care/not care.

It's like a game of pickup basketball/hockey/whatever. The outcome is always irrelevant and will be forgotten by most participants. One does not usually lose sleep if their team doesn't win, yet they usually stay engaged and do what they can for their team to have as much success as possible.

What bores me is combat without context. I've played online games for a long time but didn't become enthusiastic about them until there were team based games with objectives because they provide interesting context.

Morgul667

Yes I care (kinda), I try to push my faction to the win if I can

But I wont stop something going on just to get my faction to win

Mr_Walker

JumpmanLane wrote: »

I don’t care if my faction wins so long as I kill the folks I don’t like, get AP and gold jewelry.

Most of the people in my faction are idiots.

Sounds to me like you want... an inter-faction civil war?

Tiara_Ra

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

No because I'm not incentivized to do so by the current reward system.
If it mattered who one in order to get decent rewards etc I'd care more but atm the only thing I care about is trying to have a fun fight. AP and faction score doesn't matter at all to me.

Full agree

Bogdan_Kobzar

I used to care, when I was a NOVICE player new to cyrodiil, and then I find out, Cyrodiil is NOT faction versus faction, it's ego players with glitched gold gear grinding/farming alliance points without regards to map or alliance objectives.
Easiest way to make cyrodiil an alliance war, is to REMOVE alliance point rewards for killing enemy players and only grant rewards for capturing strategic objectives.
All these players want is to have a bear pit with endless enemy players, so Game designers, give them a battle ground that's just a free for all deathmatch with 1,000 players.
Those of us who want to do alliance vs alliance will AVOID the arena and enjoy Cyrodil.

Zer0oo

Zevrro wrote: »

Campaign score is based on whichever alliance nightcaps or whichever alliance has the most players. Until the scoring is even remotely competitive there is no sense in even paying attention to it.

^this

The most effective way to win right now is just to overrun the map when the other faction do not have enough players to defend and not enough players to retake the map.

bakermir

Bogdan_Kobzar wrote: »

I used to care, when I was a NOVICE player new to cyrodiil, and then I find out, Cyrodiil is NOT faction versus faction, it's ego players with glitched gold gear grinding/farming alliance points without regards to map or alliance objectives.
Easiest way to make cyrodiil an alliance war, is to REMOVE alliance point rewards for killing enemy players and only grant rewards for capturing strategic objectives.
All these players want is to have a bear pit with endless enemy players, so Game designers, give them a battle ground that's just a free for all deathmatch with 1,000 players.
Those of us who want to do alliance vs alliance will AVOID the arena and enjoy Cyrodil.

What did I just read?

Nermy

It's nice to win but not the be all and end all in Cyrodiil. The fights and zone chat are usually enough to keep me entertained, as well as riding with my brethren.

LoreToo

No. Since there is morning/nightcap you dont need to care about such stupid things like score, keeps, scrolls

dennissomb16_ESO

While I am loyal to the faction in the end I really do not care who wins the campaign. Population balances even in 30 day CP campaign makes for to many swings. I do however go all out for my faction while I am logged into the game and I am a supporter of faction lock (even though it no longer really makes sense since the introduction of Tamerial One)

linoge63

Corpier wrote: »

I don't care who is winning. I don't care about the map. When I pvp I just want AP.

I used to until I realized that the so called golden vendor who should be painted in anything but, or just cover her in a black garbage bag... will not ever have anything worth saving AP for...so--tramsmutes it is...er...well, was.

Mr_Walker

bakermir wrote: »

Bogdan_Kobzar wrote: »

I used to care, when I was a NOVICE player new to cyrodiil, and then I find out, Cyrodiil is NOT faction versus faction, it's ego players with glitched gold gear grinding/farming alliance points without regards to map or alliance objectives.
Easiest way to make cyrodiil an alliance war, is to REMOVE alliance point rewards for killing enemy players and only grant rewards for capturing strategic objectives.
All these players want is to have a bear pit with endless enemy players, so Game designers, give them a battle ground that's just a free for all deathmatch with 1,000 players.
Those of us who want to do alliance vs alliance will AVOID the arena and enjoy Cyrodil.

What did I just read?

Truth. Half the players in a campaign only care about AP, not the map.

Tiara_Ra

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Truth. Half the players in a campaign only care about AP, not the map.

What will you do on the map that belongs to your alliance? Especially if you play as team. For battle, you need enemy players on the map, but sometimes they can't even leave gate.

bakermir

Mr_Walker wrote: »

bakermir wrote: »

Bogdan_Kobzar wrote: »

I used to care, when I was a NOVICE player new to cyrodiil, and then I find out, Cyrodiil is NOT faction versus faction, it's ego players with glitched gold gear grinding/farming alliance points without regards to map or alliance objectives.
Easiest way to make cyrodiil an alliance war, is to REMOVE alliance point rewards for killing enemy players and only grant rewards for capturing strategic objectives.
All these players want is to have a bear pit with endless enemy players, so Game designers, give them a battle ground that's just a free for all deathmatch with 1,000 players.
Those of us who want to do alliance vs alliance will AVOID the arena and enjoy Cyrodil.

What did I just read?

Truth. Half the players in a campaign only care about AP, not the map.

Anything that rewards AP in Cyrodiil contributes to the factions on the map.