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Do you care about which faction is winning the campaign?

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EP | AR 50 | Sanctosaurus | Mana NB
AD | AR 44 | rekt ya | Mana NB
AD | AR 41 | Sanct Thunderstorm | Mana Sorc
EP | AR 36 | S'na'ct | Mana NB {NA}
AD | AR 29 | Captain Full Fist| Stam DK
AD | AR 29 | Sanct The Dark Phoenix| Stam Sorc
EP | AR 16 | Horny Sanct | Stam Warden
EP | AR 16 | Sánct Bánáná Sláyér | Mana DK
DC | AR 13 | ad worst faction eu | Stam Sorc
DC | AR 13 | Lagendary Sanct | Mana NB

>290.000.000 AP

Do you care about which faction is winning the campaign? 285 votes

Yes
34% 99 votes
No
60% 171 votes
Other (explain)
5% 15 votes
  • imredneckson
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    Yes and no. Yes to get the extra gold and items for winning the campaign but unless the group lead calls to defend the map, I'm game for just having some good fight.
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  • Ranger209
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    There will be some people that say no because of the fact that the scoring system needs work, and the rewards could be better, but faction lock at least establishes the teams for the duration of the campaign so that is one step in the right direction. If the scoring system gets addressed appropriately and the rewards do as well, some no's will turn into yes's. There are some that will never care they just want to pvp in their groups and will never care about the team aspect beyond their groups that is the AvAvA team framework.
  • Mr_Walker
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    Vietfox wrote: »
    As a faction loyalist "yes", but if we lose i don't make a big deal out of it.
    The most important things for me are teamwork, cooperation with other groups and cyro lag free.

    So batting 0 out of 3 then.
  • Ackwalan
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    When you are in first place, you are playing the campaign. When you are in last place, you are just playing for good fights.
  • Gilvoth
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    i prefer to be against all the alliances as a black sheep and flagged as such.
    but since that option does not exist, then i'm forced into alliance of one or another.
    best in slot: is the armor, weapon, clothing look, pet, or no pet, jewelry, race, class, skill choices, amount of DPS, and skin color best fit to you and the way you wish to play and makes you feel good and performs what YOU think it should be.

    worst in slot: what you read in zone chat, and forum comment, and forum thread, and you tube video, and live streamer advice, and class rep advice, and guild chat advice, and whisper told you to wear, and use for skill, and dress like, and use for weapon and armor.
  • Corpier
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    I don't care who is winning. I don't care about the map. When I pvp I just want AP.
    @Corpier | PC/NA CP1000+

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    AD
    A Príorí: Highelf - Magicka Sorcerer
    DC
    Corpier: Orc - Stamina Nightblade
    Corpier: Orc - Stamina Sorcerer
    EP
    A Fortiori: Darkelf - Magicka Nightblade
    A Posteriori: Darkelf - Magicka Dragonknight
    Bertha Ironsides: Imperial - Dragonknight Tank
    Corpier: Breton - Magicka Templar
    Corpíer: Orc - Stamina Templar
    CorpÌer: Orc -Stamina Warden
    Logen'Bloody-Nine'Fingers: Orc - Stamina Dragonknight
  • Vietfox
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    Vietfox wrote: »
    As a faction loyalist "yes", but if we lose i don't make a big deal out of it.
    The most important things for me are teamwork, cooperation with other groups and cyro lag free.

    So batting 0 out of 3 then.

    1 and 2 are not that difficult to achieve, 3 is the tricky one and requires more rant on the forums :)
  • Sandman929
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    Yes, because it's a game based around objectives and I like winning games, but no because it's a game with a scoring system that has nothing to do with individual effort. I have more fun playing for objectives and the fights that occur in the process of doing that.
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  • ellahellabella
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    I'll play and push/defend objectives when I'm on but I don't pull my hair out over overall score.
    So long as the scoring system favours whoever has the greatest pop when the server is quiet for the longest period of time, I don't see the point taking it too seriously.
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    Full faction locks are only further dividing an already dwindling pvp community

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    Daggerfall Covernant
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  • Zevrro
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    Campaign score is based on whichever alliance nightcaps or whichever alliance has the most players. Until the scoring is even remotely competitive there is no sense in even paying attention to it.
    @Zevrro PC-EU
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    DC | Not Zevrro | Magicka Nightblade | AR22 |
    EP | Ževrro | Magicka Nightblade | AR13 |
    Other PvP Characters
    AD | Zevrro | Stamina Nightblade | AR42 |
    AD | Zevrro VII | Stamina Warden | AR32 |
    AD | Zevrro XII | Magicka Warden | AR17 |
    DC | Not Zevrro II | Stamina Warden | AR14 |
    DC | Necrotic Zevrro | Magicka Necromancer | AR16 |
    EP | Real-Skyice | Stamina Warden | AR10 |

    >136m AP
  • zyk
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    It's more nuanced than care/not care.

    It's like a game of pickup basketball/hockey/whatever. The outcome is always irrelevant and will be forgotten by most participants. One does not usually lose sleep if their team doesn't win, yet they usually stay engaged and do what they can for their team to have as much success as possible.

    What bores me is combat without context. I've played online games for a long time but didn't become enthusiastic about them until there were team based games with objectives because they provide interesting context.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster . . . when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you"
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  • Morgul667
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    Yes I care (kinda), I try to push my faction to the win if I can

    But I wont stop something going on just to get my faction to win
  • Mr_Walker
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    I don’t care if my faction wins so long as I kill the folks I don’t like, get AP and gold jewelry.

    Most of the people in my faction are idiots.

    Sounds to me like you want... an inter-faction civil war?
  • Tiara_Ra
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    No because I'm not incentivized to do so by the current reward system.
    If it mattered who one in order to get decent rewards etc I'd care more but atm the only thing I care about is trying to have a fun fight. AP and faction score doesn't matter at all to me.

    Full agree
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  • Zer0oo
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    Zevrro wrote: »
    Campaign score is based on whichever alliance nightcaps or whichever alliance has the most players. Until the scoring is even remotely competitive there is no sense in even paying attention to it.

    ^this

    The most effective way to win right now is just to overrun the map when the other faction do not have enough players to defend and not enough players to retake the map.
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  • Nermy
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    It's nice to win but not the be all and end all in Cyrodiil. The fights and zone chat are usually enough to keep me entertained, as well as riding with my brethren.
    @Nermy
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  • LoreToo
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    No. Since there is morning/nightcap you dont need to care about such stupid things like score, keeps, scrolls
  • dennissomb16_ESO
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    While I am loyal to the faction in the end I really do not care who wins the campaign. Population balances even in 30 day CP campaign makes for to many swings. I do however go all out for my faction while I am logged into the game and I am a supporter of faction lock (even though it no longer really makes sense since the introduction of Tamerial One)
  • linoge63
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    Corpier wrote: »
    I don't care who is winning. I don't care about the map. When I pvp I just want AP.

    I used to until I realized that the so called golden vendor who should be painted in anything but, or just cover her in a black garbage bag... will not ever have anything worth saving AP for...so--tramsmutes it is...er...well, was.

  • Mr_Walker
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    bakermir wrote: »
    I used to care, when I was a NOVICE player new to cyrodiil, and then I find out, Cyrodiil is NOT faction versus faction, it's ego players with glitched gold gear grinding/farming alliance points without regards to map or alliance objectives.
    Easiest way to make cyrodiil an alliance war, is to REMOVE alliance point rewards for killing enemy players and only grant rewards for capturing strategic objectives.
    All these players want is to have a bear pit with endless enemy players, so Game designers, give them a battle ground that's just a free for all deathmatch with 1,000 players.
    Those of us who want to do alliance vs alliance will AVOID the arena and enjoy Cyrodil.

    What did I just read?

    Truth. Half the players in a campaign only care about AP, not the map.
  • Tiara_Ra
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    Truth. Half the players in a campaign only care about AP, not the map.
    What will you do on the map that belongs to your alliance? Especially if you play as team. For battle, you need enemy players on the map, but sometimes they can't even leave gate.

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  • bakermir
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    bakermir wrote: »
    I used to care, when I was a NOVICE player new to cyrodiil, and then I find out, Cyrodiil is NOT faction versus faction, it's ego players with glitched gold gear grinding/farming alliance points without regards to map or alliance objectives.
    Easiest way to make cyrodiil an alliance war, is to REMOVE alliance point rewards for killing enemy players and only grant rewards for capturing strategic objectives.
    All these players want is to have a bear pit with endless enemy players, so Game designers, give them a battle ground that's just a free for all deathmatch with 1,000 players.
    Those of us who want to do alliance vs alliance will AVOID the arena and enjoy Cyrodil.

    What did I just read?

    Truth. Half the players in a campaign only care about AP, not the map.


    Anything that rewards AP in Cyrodiil contributes to the factions on the map.
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    • DC * breton magsorc * twitch bakermir
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