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Entropy is way too strong.
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Altyrann✭✭✭✭✭What is the problem ?
Everyone cry about DPS loss and ZoS give you an alternate way to build to keep dmg up.
And now you complain ? I don't get it.
If ZoS give me a new strong heal skill to replace Grand healing, I'll be happy.
So, don't complain plz, at least DPS have possibility to still be effective.
The tooltips are high enough that they look like they'll be mandatory to slot, potentially replacing class skills. Right now on my mag necro I don't have a class skill that does more damage per gcd than reach, entropy, or soul trap, meaning these three dots will now be part of my rotation no matter what. It's completely crowding out any class skills, which are weak in comparison.
How does the summoned mage / archer compare?0 -
ecru✭✭✭✭✭
✭What is the problem ?
Everyone cry about DPS loss and ZoS give you an alternate way to build to keep dmg up.
And now you complain ? I don't get it.
If ZoS give me a new strong heal skill to replace Grand healing, I'll be happy.
So, don't complain plz, at least DPS have possibility to still be effective.
The tooltips are high enough that they look like they'll be mandatory to slot, potentially replacing class skills. Right now on my mag necro I don't have a class skill that does more damage per gcd than reach, entropy, or soul trap, meaning these three dots will now be part of my rotation no matter what. It's completely crowding out any class skills, which are weak in comparison.
Not really, calltrop and endless hail was the exact same thing for stam DPS.
Mandatory no-class skill doing more than any other class skill.
Now magicka class got 2 of them too. Be happy, Magicka will not be weaker than stam anymore (or gap will be lower).
So instead of buffing class skills, we buff these skills and forget about any class identity?Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »What is the problem ?
Everyone cry about DPS loss and ZoS give you an alternate way to build to keep dmg up.
And now you complain ? I don't get it.
If ZoS give me a new strong heal skill to replace Grand healing, I'll be happy.
So, don't complain plz, at least DPS have possibility to still be effective.
The tooltips are high enough that they look like they'll be mandatory to slot, potentially replacing class skills. Right now on my mag necro I don't have a class skill that does more damage per gcd than reach, entropy, or soul trap, meaning these three dots will now be part of my rotation no matter what. It's completely crowding out any class skills, which are weak in comparison.
Skeletal arcanist will. What is your tool tip of that skill?
You're right, forgot about that. Skeletal Arcanist is the only one. It also costs 3.6k mag, heh.Gryphon Heart
Godslayer
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Zelos✭✭✭✭✭enzoisadog wrote: »A skill like that shouldn't be hitting harder than other DOTs.
2k cost 27k dot (unmorphed)
I see nothing wrong with these tooltips:)
As far as I can tell #balancedAeonhack - AD Stamina Nightblade - 5 Star General
CP1200
Creator and user of "Questionable" addons and game mechanics.3 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭What is the problem ?
Everyone cry about DPS loss and ZoS give you an alternate way to build to keep dmg up.
And now you complain ? I don't get it.
If ZoS give me a new strong heal skill to replace Grand healing, I'll be happy.
So, don't complain plz, at least DPS have possibility to still be effective.
The tooltips are high enough that they look like they'll be mandatory to slot, potentially replacing class skills. Right now on my mag necro I don't have a class skill that does more damage per gcd than reach, entropy, or soul trap, meaning these three dots will now be part of my rotation no matter what. It's completely crowding out any class skills, which are weak in comparison.
Not really, calltrop and endless hail was the exact same thing for stam DPS.
Mandatory no-class skill doing more than any other class skill.
Now magicka class got 2 of them too. Be happy, Magicka will not be weaker than stam anymore (or gap will be lower).
So instead of buffing class skills, we buff these skills and forget about any class identity?Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »What is the problem ?
Everyone cry about DPS loss and ZoS give you an alternate way to build to keep dmg up.
And now you complain ? I don't get it.
If ZoS give me a new strong heal skill to replace Grand healing, I'll be happy.
So, don't complain plz, at least DPS have possibility to still be effective.
The tooltips are high enough that they look like they'll be mandatory to slot, potentially replacing class skills. Right now on my mag necro I don't have a class skill that does more damage per gcd than reach, entropy, or soul trap, meaning these three dots will now be part of my rotation no matter what. It's completely crowding out any class skills, which are weak in comparison.
Skeletal arcanist will. What is your tool tip of that skill?
You're right, forgot about that. Skeletal Arcanist is the only one. It also costs 3.6k mag, heh.
Then there is mystic siphon, which gives you 3% more damage for just being on your bar, and is "free", what is your tool tip with that?Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on July 9, 2019 12:32AM0 -
FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭enzoisadog wrote: »
Destructive Reach looks pretty good too. Three class-independent skills that will be on every magicka DPS load-out.0 -
FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭From what I can see, you'll be stacking ST abilities to get maximum ST damage and AoE skills for AoE.
There are some outliers but it definitely looks like more specialised setups for specific scenarios.
Yep. I play on the PC, so my main concern with that is boss fights with adds. But I really feel sorry for console folks.0 -
TheZachinator✭✭✭What is the problem ?
Everyone cry about DPS loss and ZoS give you an alternate way to build to keep dmg up.
And now you complain ? I don't get it.
If ZoS give me a new strong heal skill to replace Grand healing, I'll be happy.
So, don't complain plz, at least DPS have possibility to still be effective.
The tooltips are high enough that they look like they'll be mandatory to slot, potentially replacing class skills. Right now on my mag necro I don't have a class skill that does more damage per gcd than reach, entropy, or soul trap, meaning these three dots will now be part of my rotation no matter what. It's completely crowding out any class skills, which are weak in comparison.
Not really, calltrop and endless hail was the exact same thing for stam DPS.
Mandatory no-class skill doing more than any other class skill.
Now magicka class got 2 of them too. Be happy, Magicka will not be weaker than stam anymore (or gap will be lower).
Lol no, the gap is actually worse. Take sorc for example; this patch a high magsorc parse is around 91k and a high stamsorc parse around 96k. On the PTS, a high magsorc parse is around 83k and a high stamsorc parse around 97k. GG ZOS.Edited by TheZachinator on July 9, 2019 12:38AMPC/NA
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exeeter702✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Saw the patch notes and immediately thought to myself "maybe ill finally be able to play a ranged dot focused caster on my magblade".
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ecru✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »What is the problem ?
Everyone cry about DPS loss and ZoS give you an alternate way to build to keep dmg up.
And now you complain ? I don't get it.
If ZoS give me a new strong heal skill to replace Grand healing, I'll be happy.
So, don't complain plz, at least DPS have possibility to still be effective.
The tooltips are high enough that they look like they'll be mandatory to slot, potentially replacing class skills. Right now on my mag necro I don't have a class skill that does more damage per gcd than reach, entropy, or soul trap, meaning these three dots will now be part of my rotation no matter what. It's completely crowding out any class skills, which are weak in comparison.
Not really, calltrop and endless hail was the exact same thing for stam DPS.
Mandatory no-class skill doing more than any other class skill.
Now magicka class got 2 of them too. Be happy, Magicka will not be weaker than stam anymore (or gap will be lower).
So instead of buffing class skills, we buff these skills and forget about any class identity?Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »What is the problem ?
Everyone cry about DPS loss and ZoS give you an alternate way to build to keep dmg up.
And now you complain ? I don't get it.
If ZoS give me a new strong heal skill to replace Grand healing, I'll be happy.
So, don't complain plz, at least DPS have possibility to still be effective.
The tooltips are high enough that they look like they'll be mandatory to slot, potentially replacing class skills. Right now on my mag necro I don't have a class skill that does more damage per gcd than reach, entropy, or soul trap, meaning these three dots will now be part of my rotation no matter what. It's completely crowding out any class skills, which are weak in comparison.
Skeletal arcanist will. What is your tool tip of that skill?
You're right, forgot about that. Skeletal Arcanist is the only one. It also costs 3.6k mag, heh.
Then there is mystic siphon, which gives you 3% more damage for just being on your bar, and is "free", what is your tool tip with that?
21k, still lower than any of these abilities. Not saying it's a bad ability, but these tooltips on entropy/soul trap are pretty insane.Gryphon Heart
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ccmedaddy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Is this really that bad? Fetcher Flies usually has a 22~24k tooltip for a 10 sec DoT and that's before the 50% extra dmg buff.5 -
Deloth_Vyrr✭✭✭TheZachinator wrote: »What is the problem ?
Everyone cry about DPS loss and ZoS give you an alternate way to build to keep dmg up.
And now you complain ? I don't get it.
If ZoS give me a new strong heal skill to replace Grand healing, I'll be happy.
So, don't complain plz, at least DPS have possibility to still be effective.
The tooltips are high enough that they look like they'll be mandatory to slot, potentially replacing class skills. Right now on my mag necro I don't have a class skill that does more damage per gcd than reach, entropy, or soul trap, meaning these three dots will now be part of my rotation no matter what. It's completely crowding out any class skills, which are weak in comparison.
Not really, calltrop and endless hail was the exact same thing for stam DPS.
Mandatory no-class skill doing more than any other class skill.
Now magicka class got 2 of them too. Be happy, Magicka will not be weaker than stam anymore (or gap will be lower).
Lol no, the gap is actually worse. Take sorc for example; this patch a high magsorc parse is around 91k and a high stamsorc parse around 96k. On the PTS, a high magsorc parse is around 83k and a high stamsorc parse around 97k. GG ZOS.
^^ This is true. I have several 90-91k magsorc parses on the Trials Dummy on Live, on PTS I am seeing a drop to 82-83k.
It's possible to get higher, but that involves dropping most class skills to run: Reach, Soul Trap and Entropy. At which point the class doesn't even feel like a Sorc anymore but generic magicka dps class #4.
Meanwhile stam builds are parsing higher than they ever have - at the top ending approaching if not exceeding 100k parses.Edited by Deloth_Vyrr on July 9, 2019 12:45AM<Twin-Moons Covenant> PC NA
Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
Voice of Reason
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Red_Feather✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭How are people getting that high a number. That one screenshot was 70k that is not possible is it?
I am getting around 2k/second, and that is decent for a single target DoT.0 -
KingExecration✭✭✭✭Red_Feather wrote: »How are people getting that high a number. That one screenshot was 70k that is not possible is it?
I am getting around 2k/second, and that is decent for a single target DoT.
Oblivion’s foe or some coldharbour set doubles soul trap if I remember right.
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So wait a second....Mages Guild skill tree is now buyable and it suddenly has completely overpowered skills? Same with Soul Magic? No way...
I have an Oblivion Foe's set somewhere... oh no, I deconstructed it some time ago...
In any case I think the guys at Zeni have not yet realized that Sou trap is a undodgeable, unblockable, unreflectable skillSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique1 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Red_Feather wrote: »How are people getting that high a number. That one screenshot was 70k that is not possible is it?
I am getting around 2k/second, and that is decent for a single target DoT.
Ultra buffed and Oblivion Foe as a set...Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
Red_Feather✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭KingExecration wrote: »Red_Feather wrote: »How are people getting that high a number. That one screenshot was 70k that is not possible is it?
I am getting around 2k/second, and that is decent for a single target DoT.
Oblivion’s foe or some coldharbour set doubles soul trap if I remember right.
oh wow that set sucked so bad before. Now it can make a 4-7k/second soul trap. That's not bad.2 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭How dare they make skills VIABLE?!?!??
Burn it with FIRE!
BURN them and the Templars and the Necros!!!10 -
Lucky28✭✭✭✭✭
✭i guess this is where i say good bye to cripple?.
i won't lie, i am happy those two skills are being buffed, but...Edited by Lucky28 on July 9, 2019 1:06AMInvictus0 -
Lucky28✭✭✭✭✭
✭Red_Feather wrote: »
Entropy, if i can get a skill that gives me major sorcery and is a powerful dot, why the hell not?.Invictus2 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Red_Feather wrote: »
Entropy, if i can get a skill that gives me major sorcery and is a powerful dot, why the hell not?.
Seeing as AoEs got so nerfed, depending on cripples numbers, I'd consider.... Both5 -
Red_Feather✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Red_Feather wrote: »
Entropy, if i can get a skill that gives me major sorcery and is a powerful dot, why the hell not?.
What I was asking is what numbers are you getting. I really need to sleep but I guess I'll log back in.0 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭They did buff the dots a bit, probs to make up for the lack of damage on ground dots. However, my dps is a bit lower on the PTS than it is on Live with entropy and soul trap. Don’t think they need to be lowered.Sorcerer's pretty much been the same for years. Nerf Rush of Agony and Saints&Seducer's0 -
_Salty_✭✭✭✭✭"Working as intended" do these people even test their own game?Psn l---Salty---l
Patiently waiting to make a Stankcromancer.0 -
Red_Feather✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So comparing Cripple to Entropy, cripple is slightly more damage, a good snare, and higher magicka sustain if you take the morph. I think they work well together. Using them both for the magicka gain morphs and that is really nice.Edited by Red_Feather on July 9, 2019 1:18AM3 -
BennyButton✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »So wait a second....Mages Guild skill tree is now buyable and it suddenly has completely overpowered skills? Same with Soul Magic? No way...
Good Lord. You still have to have leveled the skill line at least once. You are basically just paying to not have the find books for 4-6 hours after then. Sad you feel this is somehow bad.
this is bad because it will allow zos to continue to make super grindy skill lines4
