What Do you consider to be a Casual Player?

SteveCampsOut

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

KhajiitFelix wrote: »

Someone who will always take a shortcut, take the easiest way, won't spend a lot of time on activities and the most important won't bother learning to improve.

That's not a casual! That's a loser.

Imperial_Voice

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

SkerKro wrote: »

Inb4 the blanketed "casuals are bad and cry for nerfs" comment with zero support or evidence to back it up.

If you dont play 23 hours a day and complete all content within the first month of playing you should be banned tbh /s

Casdha

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

Casdha wrote: »

I've never put on a monster mask .....

I have to amend this part of my statement after yesterday. I thought I was having a bad day Soloing Arx Corinium after dying a couple of times, I never die doing this Group Dungeon. After I finished it I realized my difficulty was still on Vet from trying VMA the day before. So I just soloed my first Vet Group Dungeon and got my first ever Monster Mask.

I tried it on since it was Stamina based and after rearranging my gear I only gained around 20 Stamina at the expense of 200+ Crit Resistance. So I took it off and went back to what I was using.

So I guess the question is now, am I a "Casual Player" or a "Hardcore Solo Player"?

Imperial_Voice

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

Casdha wrote: »

Casdha wrote: »

I've never put on a monster mask .....

I have to amend this part of my statement after yesterday. I thought I was having a bad day Soloing Arx Corinium after dying a couple of times, I never die doing this Group Dungeon. After I finished it I realized my difficulty was still on Vet from trying VMA the day before. So I just soloed my first Vet Group Dungeon and got my first ever Monster Mask.

I tried it on since it was Stamina based and after rearranging my gear I only gained around 20 Stamina at the expense of 200+ Crit Resistance. So I took it off and went back to what I was using.

So I guess the question is now, am I a "Casual Player" or a "Hardcore Solo Player"?

Hardcore Hero

Casdha

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

Imperial_Voice wrote: »

Casdha wrote: »

Casdha wrote: »

I've never put on a monster mask .....

I have to amend this part of my statement after yesterday. I thought I was having a bad day Soloing Arx Corinium after dying a couple of times, I never die doing this Group Dungeon. After I finished it I realized my difficulty was still on Vet from trying VMA the day before. So I just soloed my first Vet Group Dungeon and got my first ever Monster Mask.

I tried it on since it was Stamina based and after rearranging my gear I only gained around 20 Stamina at the expense of 200+ Crit Resistance. So I took it off and went back to what I was using.

So I guess the question is now, am I a "Casual Player" or a "Hardcore Solo Player"?

Hardcore Hero

I still can't complete VMA but I am using a 2H Imperial DK so it is a bit tough.

Edit: and I should have said "Hardcore Solo Crafter" As my goal is to do the best I can with only crafted gear.

JadeCoin

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

KhajiitFelix wrote: »

Someone who will always take a shortcut, take the easiest way, won't spend a lot of time on activities and the most important won't bother learning to improve.

That's not a casual! That's a loser.

Yes, but it's logical if you believe all casuals are losers.

One thing that really jumps out in this thread is how quickly some people will "define" the two groups ("casual" and "hardcore") not in the most general sense, but according to the traits of their worst -- and probably least representative -- members. Casuals are lazy, entitled complainers; hardcore players are toxic, obsessive basement-dwellers.

All I can say is I really hope this negative stereotyping doesn't carry over into real life. You'll live out your days thinking elephants are ropes.

SidraWillowsky

Neither / Other

KhajiitFelix wrote: »

Someone who will always take a shortcut, take the easiest way, won't spend a lot of time on activities and the most important won't bother learning to improve.

But for some people, it's not because they can't be bothered; they just don't WANT to- they've got other things that they consider fun. If they're trying to run vet dungeons and trials that's one thing, but for me "casual" = players who do a lot of questing and are generally less concerned about DPS and rotation. They play the game more as an RPG with less of the MM aspect.

I'm thinking of myself playing Skyrim. I am terrible- I set the mode to novice because I have a lot more fun questing than I do thinking a whole lot about combat. I'd rather just be able to blindly beat something to death with my mace and carry on. This isn't exactly achievable in ESO but I think of it similarly.

I guess after all that typing I've come to the conclusion that IMO, "casual" = player not particularly concerned with combat metrics.

SidraWillowsky

Neither / Other

max_only wrote: »

There’s got to be something between being a casual and being an elitist. I play all the time, mostly to fart around. But if I see an opportunity to catch up to BIS, I’ll take it. Like my healer is in last season’s fashions (spc, Worm) and I have 1 or 2 pieces of this season (wearing earthgore monster set but not enough pieces of olorime) but I’m not frothing at the mouth for the rest.

There’s got to be a middle ground.

This is what trips me up sometimes- why be an elitist when you can use your skills to help the "casuals"? I'm not talking about that deadweight, whiny player being carried through dungeons... I'm talking more about being in a dungeon with the person who may not be using meta gear or a meta rotation and where I, as the other DPS, am doing a large percentage of the DPS. That's why I PLAY -to get my DPS as high as possible- and if I can use that to help people out, I'm totally down. No reason to look down my nose at people who have different priorities...

p00tx

Both, they just play this on the side

Casdha wrote: »

Casdha wrote: »

I've never put on a monster mask .....

I have to amend this part of my statement after yesterday. I thought I was having a bad day Soloing Arx Corinium after dying a couple of times, I never die doing this Group Dungeon. After I finished it I realized my difficulty was still on Vet from trying VMA the day before. So I just soloed my first Vet Group Dungeon and got my first ever Monster Mask.

I tried it on since it was Stamina based and after rearranging my gear I only gained around 20 Stamina at the expense of 200+ Crit Resistance. So I took it off and went back to what I was using.

So I guess the question is now, am I a "Casual Player" or a "Hardcore Solo Player"?

You don't need Crit resist for dungeons. Dungeon Monster attacks will never crit. Fantastic job soloing that dungeon though!

Casdha

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

p00tx wrote: »

Casdha wrote: »

Casdha wrote: »

I've never put on a monster mask .....

I have to amend this part of my statement after yesterday. I thought I was having a bad day Soloing Arx Corinium after dying a couple of times, I never die doing this Group Dungeon. After I finished it I realized my difficulty was still on Vet from trying VMA the day before. So I just soloed my first Vet Group Dungeon and got my first ever Monster Mask.

I tried it on since it was Stamina based and after rearranging my gear I only gained around 20 Stamina at the expense of 200+ Crit Resistance. So I took it off and went back to what I was using.

So I guess the question is now, am I a "Casual Player" or a "Hardcore Solo Player"?

You don't need Crit resist for dungeons. Dungeon Monster attacks will never crit. Fantastic job soloing that dungeon though!

This Toon is a one character does all attempt. I also use this one in Battle Grounds. He has come in top of the pack a time or two but I don't think has ever come in on the bottom.

gabijoe21

Both, they just play this on the side

When I do play I try to play for as long as possible, but I don't care about leader boards and attempting to complete every quest available, I am truly just playing for fun while being murdered every few minutes on PVP.

TigerSeptim

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

Casual, to me, means "I don't care about stats". I might *gasp!* even try putting points into health, just for a change.

My first toon was a Nightblade equipped with sword and board- big mistake! I didn't know what that entailed and ended up getting my behind handed to me too many times for the game to be fun. Now I know: sword and board is meant to be played in a group, and one should give their character lots of HP in order to survive.

My favorite now is Esmiira, a dual-wielding sorceress who can immobilize an opponent, dart in and deal some damage, and then jump out of harm's way. She doesn't have a high HP because she's all about agility- something Khajiit are famous for. I couldn't be happier.

Postscript: I still love that first character, J'skaan; he's the protagonist of my fanfiction and may or may not reappear in-game. Maybe I'll just retire him to Skyrim.

Odovacar

How I see TESO casual....

Plays right after release because they thought it'd be fun then forgets about it a month or two in. This player then returns a few years later asking questions about builds and help because they're "getting back into it again". They receive help from many kind players, but then they take another 6-8 month break. This gaming behavior continues...

As time goes on their infrequent presence peaks and valleys throughout all ESO updates and major chapters. Then like clockwork you receive a random message from them asking if you can possibly grind them through Skyreach and craft some new training gear when the new necromancer comes out...

Funny how they show back up annually around a big chapter release... see ZOS has them hooked even if they seem unconcerned most of the time. imo, the Casual

Perfect Customers


True story, LOL

Wildberryjack

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

Someone who plays for fun, not to min/max and get the highest level rewards from the hardest content.

cheifsoap

Neither / Other

Honestly, this simply sounds like an excuse for bad players. "I suck at my class because I'm a casual". Rubbish.

DenMoria

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

Odovacar wrote: »

How I see TESO casual....

Plays right after release because they thought it'd be fun then forgets about it a month or two in. This player then returns a few years later asking questions about builds and help because they're "getting back into it again". They receive help from many kind players, but then they take another 6-8 month break. This gaming behavior continues...

As time goes on their infrequent presence peaks and valleys throughout all ESO updates and major chapters. Then like clockwork you receive a random message from them asking if you can possibly grind them through Skyreach and craft some new training gear when the new necromancer comes out...

Funny how they show back up annually around a big chapter release... see ZOS has them hooked even if they seem unconcerned most of the time. imo, the Casual

Perfect Customers


True story, LOL

So you honestly believe that the only true ESO players are those that play it to the exclusion of everything else despite it's flaws and just how honestly boring it is in many, many, many areas?

I love ESO, but I know that I'll need to take breaks. PvP is always the same thing, year in, year out. The PvE areas are templates (it's obvious when you look - the recycle designs all across all the zones and just use new decorations). The loot is basically the same stuff over and over with new names.

Doing anything to the exclusion of anything else is called obsession, not fandom.

I'm about to embark on a month of Oblivion just so I can take a break from ESO. Then another month of ESO. Then Skyrim. Etc...

I simply can't play the same fetch quests over and over and over and over and over.

It's not like the main storylines aren't completely predictable. Take the Fighter's Guild. Like you couldn't see the "real" badguy coming a mile away?

DenMoria

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

cheifsoap wrote: »

Honestly, this simply sounds like an excuse for bad players. "I suck at my class because I'm a casual". Rubbish.

While I don't disagree with you, how do you define "suck"?

If you mean that they aren't meta elite, slam everything in to paste always players, then they don't "suck", they just don't want that.

I don't. I play. I have fun. I beat 99% of the content and those that I don't, I accept as my better.

It's a game, not a religion.

Odovacar

DenMoria wrote: »

Odovacar wrote: »

How I see TESO casual....

Plays right after release because they thought it'd be fun then forgets about it a month or two in. This player then returns a few years later asking questions about builds and help because they're "getting back into it again". They receive help from many kind players, but then they take another 6-8 month break. This gaming behavior continues...

As time goes on their infrequent presence peaks and valleys throughout all ESO updates and major chapters. Then like clockwork you receive a random message from them asking if you can possibly grind them through Skyreach and craft some new training gear when the new necromancer comes out...

Funny how they show back up annually around a big chapter release... see ZOS has them hooked even if they seem unconcerned most of the time. imo, the Casual

Perfect Customers


True story, LOL

So you honestly believe that the only true ESO players are those that play it to the exclusion of everything else despite it's flaws and just how honestly boring it is in many, many, many areas?

I love ESO, but I know that I'll need to take breaks. PvP is always the same thing, year in, year out. The PvE areas are templates (it's obvious when you look - the recycle designs all across all the zones and just use new decorations). The loot is basically the same stuff over and over with new names.

Doing anything to the exclusion of anything else is called obsession, not fandom.

I'm about to embark on a month of Oblivion just so I can take a break from ESO. Then another month of ESO. Then Skyrim. Etc...

I simply can't play the same fetch quests over and over and over and over and over.

It's not like the main storylines aren't completely predictable. Take the Fighter's Guild. Like you couldn't see the "real" badguy coming a mile away?

A break is needed for everyone from time to time, agreed. There's nothing wrong with people that causally play the game or get a little burned out. Hey, I think we've all been a little bored with the same content here and there.

Taking 6-8 month breaks throughout the year coming back for a few months a year is IMO casual material though... not that there's anything wrong with that though


Cheers mate!

jircris11

Neither / Other

Casdha wrote: »

KhajiitFelix wrote: »

Someone who will always take a shortcut, take the easiest way, won't spend a lot of time on activities and the most important won't bother learning to improve.

I disagree, I think those folks fall under the second option, but you still got an insightful for putting your opinion the nicest way possible.

Not casual, that's lazy lol. But points for being polite. To me a casual is some one who can jump in have fun and honestly not give 2 cares about a meta. They rather build their own build and play their way. They don't run endgame typically due to thos hardcore endgame tearing down their build or simply kicking them. (Happends a lot on normal to me simply cause I'm not in meta gear, yet my dps is no worse then theirs) but we keep pushing on because who cares.

siddique

Someone who is casual about the amount of time played (hour here, two hours there)

I love this game but I don't worry too much about events. I have only done two normal trials, and pretty much less than 1 percent missions, have yet to finish Cadwell too.

Started on PS4 in November last year, hit level cap today with three other characters at cap too. In about 1200 hours of playtime. That's what? 5-6 hours a day.

I think I'm casual, wife thinks I'm an addict. Perspectives.

Thorvik_Tyrson

Neither / Other

Feanor wrote: »

There are also ambitious casuals - people who spend limited time in game but nonetheless want to be the best they can when they are on.

I forget which game this was in, but This reminds me of the time that I ran into a player that was asking how he could power level when only playing for 1 hour a day. After having a good laugh, I told him to be sure and logout in a town or Inn so that he would get the rested bonus. He was just logging off wherever he was at the end of his hour and not getting rested XP bonus.

barney2525

Neither / Other

Someone who plays in their underwear

peacenote

This is an interesting poll and discussion. I like it and the point it is trying to make. : D

My first MMO was WoW. When I played, we had those terms back then, too. To me, I would have defined hardcore as being a raider and anyone else as a casual.

What I personally interpreted that to mean, when I consider this now, was that hardcore players were people who scheduled their lives around raids. I remember doing things like remoting into my gaming machine from work so I would be through the server queue by the time I got home, or cancelling plans when a spot opened up. The term had nothing to do with level of skill, besides the barrier of initial entry to get into the raiding guild, and more to do with the priority level it had in one's life. Not so much amount of time, either, but rather... are you going to miss your sister's birthday dinner or your fifth wedding anniversary because there's a raid? If the answer was yes, you were hardcore. Casual was just the opposite term for that.

I've played lots of MMOs in between WoW and ESO, but when I arrived here I started referring to myself as a hardcore-casual, by which I meant a player who used to raid and thus has decent skills but can no longer stay up on week nights to participate in a raid guild. I try to do Trials during my play schedule, not the other way around. I try to keep one or two characters in BiS gear, to facilitate aforementioned Trial participation, but not all of them and no, my Cloudrest gear and Asylum staff aren't "perfect."

I'm sure not everyone in the WoW community would have agreed with my definition back then, and things are so much more complicated now. But in a way my definition could still apply. If your ESO gaming activities define how you schedule the rest of your life, you're hardcore. If you log in when you have nothing more pressing, whether it's for hours on end or not, you're casual. I still consider myself in between because I can't commit enough to adapt to a guild with a fixed schedule for progressing in Trials, but I do avoid planning things for weekend mornings, because that is when I play.

JadeCoin

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

DenMoria wrote: »

cheifsoap wrote: »

Honestly, this simply sounds like an excuse for bad players. "I suck at my class because I'm a casual". Rubbish.

While I don't disagree with you, how do you define "suck"?

If you mean that they aren't meta elite, slam everything in to paste always players, then they don't "suck", they just don't want that.

I don't. I play. I have fun. I beat 99% of the content and those that I don't, I accept as my better.

It's a game, not a religion.

By my personal definition (not everyone uses the term this way), an "elitist" is someone for whom good enough is not good enough. Bad is bad, and good enough is also bad. Only better is good.

Note that being an elite player (or a hardcore player, for that matter) does not imply being an elitist in this sense. Some people can be the best at what they do, and not look down on others who aren't at their level.

zvavi

Neither / Other

Well, i consider myself partly casual, and the content i enjoy most is dlc dungeons, i even pug them. I mean ye sure, i am more serious about the game than most people, but i thats my uptake for most games, thats playing for fun for me

IzzyStardust

Neither / Other

For me a casual can be anyone who just kinda plays now and then or whatever and it doesn't have to mean they are 'bad' or anything, either; but just don't understand more than basic mechanics etc.

A friend posted this image in here years ago and I saved it, because it depicts what I do NOT like to see happen quite well:

That to me is NOT a casual though - that's someone who does not like to put in any effort whilst simultaneously screwing up any effort you put in by expecting a hard carry through everything etc.

A distinction should definitely be made between these types of players - because I don't like seeing 'casual' being treated like a dirty word - and I really do not like the players who behave as in the above image calling themselves 'casuals' and making a mockery of everyone else.

'Come on dude, you know how to play.'

Dojohoda

I don't know. I think people log on to 'get away' for a few hours and get into the game in whatever way they choose. That can be anywhere from intense to relaxing.

IzzyStardust

Neither / Other

max_only wrote: »

There’s got to be something between being a casual and being an elitist. I play all the time, mostly to fart around. But if I see an opportunity to catch up to BIS, I’ll take it. Like my healer is in last season’s fashions (spc, Worm) and I have 1 or 2 pieces of this season (wearing earthgore monster set but not enough pieces of olorime) but I’m not frothing at the mouth for the rest.

There’s got to be a middle ground.

To me that is right there ^^ almost perfect depiction of casual.

Like you think worm is 'outdated' or something, when it is not. It is content/team/position specific.

You think Earthgore is currently 'good' when it's really not that good for a healer to get used to (for more than one reason).

You're in no rush to get olorime though it is 10x better for you and your team than SPC and you likely may not even know how/how often/where to proc it etc

Nothing wrong with all of that.

I bet you know where ele drain goes and what orbs & combat prayer do. That means you can heal people and not be a waste of a player spot in 4 person dungeons or normal trials and so on and can do pretty much what you like in game without people being all ??????

You know?

ShellaSunshine

Neither / Other

Why do you care there are causal players in this game?

Without having a steady player base, this game goes under so let whoever wants to play however much they want to play.

It's a video game.

You know...

For entertainment purposes.

Ildun

Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!

I'm a casual player. I knew I am bad and I like to play with my own pace( looting garbage etc ) so I rarely join other player know that I will become their burden unless all of them really don't care.

In my case:
- Never do trial
- Rarely do group dungeon and group delve, mostly just sneak, die, revive to grab skyshard
- Almost never PVP and I hate force PVP( feel like wasted money to buy Imperial City, I thought I can sneak around to do quest and grab skyshard )
- Leveling mostly through quest, avoid combat as much as I can
- Always harvesting, looting, hoarding and fishing
- Have a pacifist healer who don't even have restoration staff skill yet...