SkysOutThizeOut wrote: »@Kadoin lol I feel ya man. Same boat with those roll dodges or getting stuck in sprint and going right off.
@Anotherone773 you said “griefers,” it’s called pvpers. I no longer try to say zergs are griefing me because they won’t let me 1vX... it’s part of cyro.
@Streega I’m not a nband because I “hurt” feelings for killing you in a pvp zone because your chasing after some “collectible” that is extremely insignificant makes me the ***. The guy playing the game of PvP is the *** becaue you entered the PvP area and your feelings got hurt because you were made to PvP.
@Metafae exactly. Ran into this tank that was there to quest. Did no damage but was unkillable by all accounts. I said “good on ya, good day, and good luck.” That person came in prepared. They used the time they knew of the event to prepare for the pvp zone and so they earned the ability to quest in peace. They were a benefit to their fellow questers when they tied me up for 10 minutes until I got zerged down, which I did not complain about. That is a smart tactic. But when I went back... I made sure not to waste attack’s on that hero of the questers.
SkysOutThizeOut wrote: »Toxic pver’s, farmers, and housing people all talk down and belittle pvpers when they try to show interest in those things. You don’t just let the new pvpers into your trials, they have to meet a litany of requirements or dps tests and even then... but it’s understandable, because that’s the content. Same can be said for PvP
And now you knowingly enter the domain that is pvp to farm for items to earn a fake outfit. And you want it handed to you, you want it freely, you don’t want to earn it. You don’t want to learn how to survive, to learn how to pvp. You don’t plan to come back. You are just entering this zone to feed an addiction. A zone that has litttle to offer, besides an experience that many of us enjoy. Then you call us “griefers” because you chose to enter our area and don’t want to play the game you entered.
You pvers don’t want to pvp. If you did you wouldn’t pvdoor zerg the map and saturate it so that it’s all one color and one faction pop locked. If you wanted to pvp you wouldn’t attempt to jump off cliffs or towers to prevent a pvper from the killing blow. Climb the tower in crops and attempt to jump off rather than fight to only learn you can’t jump off that tower... lol you never planned to pvp at all...
You don’t have to pvp to get top tier pve gear. PvPers have to pve to get the best pvp gear though and we have to earn it and figure it out. You are coming here for an item you may never even use.
We will take advantage of the opportunity to earn easy ap, to see how many bad pvers it takes to bring us down, and to kill as many as we can with the best kdr we can because we are playing for an experience.
Just like we pvpers don’t get a free ride in your trials, you’ll not get a free ride in our campaigns, where the name of the game is Player vs Player.
You don't need to. We're always looking for a good small scale fight. Just type in zone chat there is people griefing you and someone will come running.
SkysOutThizeOut wrote: »@MazzarattiMama apply whatever characteristic you need to, to justify your belittlement. And 1 person is worth 2k if they haven’t died recently. 10 people are 20k ap and that only takes minutes. Compared to 1.5k for a resource or 6k for a keep. I think 1v15s are a fun rare challenge because I understand I’m not going to 1v15 any other time. I view the opportunity as to 1vX these players as a limited time only trial. And I get I’m lucky to 1v2 good players and lucky to 1v3/4 average players. Yeah... so much easier to try to take keeps to farm ap... when 3 players are worth 1 keep. Some reason I feel like every person complaining about being killed in a pvp zone and trying to villafy pvpers as less than human vote Democrat...
The topic of that thread u are rebutting is geared PvPers going to towns and camping them in numbers so that ungeared, unskilled, new to PvP players are killed almost instantly and cannot even complete what they have originally set out to do. Often it’s involved exploiting the fact there is a loading screen on entering...
Griefing is not PvP!
MazzarattiMama wrote: »
I could care less what you think. And this is why; what others think is inconsequential to you.
MazzarattiMama wrote: »
No. You are wrong in your rebuttal. What the original person posted about the anniversary event in Cyrodiil has nothing to do with pve activities except for the player who probably is inexperienced in pvp. They, and every other player got an invitation from ESO to partake in the event in Cyrodiil. This event is a prime opportunity for less mature players, players sitting in jail or prison who have criminal minds, players who in real life revel in hurting others not as powerful as them, or just players who like to bully and are likely bullies in real life to control the situation and prevent others from their achievement and happiness. As to your written response: "We will take advantage of the opportunity to earn easy ap..." If you're so good, why camp at the towns? Is it because you can't 1v1? or zerg yourself? Can't you take a resource by yourself? Cause, imo, these easy ap you speak of are far less in ap value than taking a keep, resource, or town, which gives thousands in ap rather than a few hundred. No, you are not right, not when pvp is supposed to be about armies, and battles, and tactical operation, and use of good skill especially in groups to win the crown and scrolls. I do not see skill in a single nightblade or group of them using poisonous arrow while being invisible, to kill players. That's just cowardly. And, it happens alot, and not just during these events. Zos should make changes to this event if they have it in Crodiil again, like a questing sigil or something, making the questor unable to be killed by players. That won't happen though. The best solution is for players from all factions to respect other players during these events and leave the questors alone.
SkysOutThizeOut wrote: »This is a better rebutal
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/470157/dear-pvers
You don't need to. We're always looking for a good small scale fight. Just type in zone chat there is people griefing you and someone will come running.
Those numbers don't mean anything without knowing your max health.
Anotherone773 wrote: »Griefers/Gankers can try to defend their actions as " oh its pvp" but its not. Its bringing a gun to fist fight with a blind man. The people you are griefing over and over have little to no experience in pvp, they are not set up or geared for pvp. They arent using high end pots and poisons and you are killing them when there is only one remotely either killing an NPC or trying to get a quest item out of a container.
That isnt pvp, thats being pathetic. I was just on my wifes account this morning, who does not pvp at all. And i had her sorc in cropsford doing quests and some EP gankers kept killing me. Now lag is cyro gives the attacker a huge advantage anyway because despite not actually showing lag the whole zone lags and an attacker will do 3 or 4 abilities before it even registers they are there. So i was getting killed instantly often. One even hit for 14k damage in a single hit, a bit ridiculous.
But i just kept going. I have been pvping for a couple of decades, so it doesnt really bother me, but i could see how it could frustrate questers who are not use to it to constantly have someone kill them every time they try to do something for no reason other than to be bad humans.
All i have to say is Karma always wins. Remember all that griefing you did when you are trying to get gear and some elitists boots you out of the group because you were only doing 30k dps instead of his required 45k dps.
SkysOutThizeOut wrote: »Toxic pver’s, farmers, and housing people all talk down and belittle pvpers when they try to show interest in those things. You don’t just let the new pvpers into your trials, they have to meet a litany of requirements or dps tests and even then... but it’s understandable, because that’s the content. Same can be said for PvP
And now you knowingly enter the domain that is pvp to farm for items to earn a fake outfit. And you want it handed to you, you want it freely, you don’t want to earn it. You don’t want to learn how to survive, to learn how to pvp. You don’t plan to come back. You are just entering this zone to feed an addiction. A zone that has litttle to offer, besides an experience that many of us enjoy. Then you call us “griefers” because you chose to enter our area and don’t want to play the game you entered.
You pvers don’t want to pvp. If you did you wouldn’t pvdoor zerg the map and saturate it so that it’s all one color and one faction pop locked. If you wanted to pvp you wouldn’t attempt to jump off cliffs or towers to prevent a pvper from the killing blow. Climb the tower in crops and attempt to jump off rather than fight to only learn you can’t jump off that tower... lol you never planned to pvp at all...
You don’t have to pvp to get top tier pve gear. PvPers have to pve to get the best pvp gear though and we have to earn it and figure it out. You are coming here for an item you may never even use.
We will take advantage of the opportunity to earn easy ap, to see how many bad pvers it takes to bring us down, and to kill as many as we can with the best kdr we can because we are playing for an experience.
Just like we pvpers don’t get a free ride in your trials, you’ll not get a free ride in our campaigns, where the name of the game is Player vs Player.
SkysOutThizeOut wrote: »@invictusapollo why? Because you made a calm, coherent, logical argument that the opposition could not refute?