ESO not very single player friendy

Dubhliam

Just report him, it's only counterproductive to feed the troll.

Trolls weakness is forum ban.

TheLastofElves

Sorry to say but I have to disagree. I have no ESO friends and play 98% solo of the time and basically all I haven't done are trials. Undaunted pledges you can do matchmaking or post in chat youre looking for a group. Matchmaking isn't terrible and this game for being an MMO, I feel is surprisingly very single player friendly.

MikaHR

Watchdog wrote: »

Is this one really the only one wondering where the OP has been for the majority of this thread?

GIven up due to all misguided "ITS A MMO" trolls spamming the thread.

Pinesy

Oof, this game to me is the most single-player friendly MMO that I have played in my years of MMOs (I only play MMOs and strategy games). Out of Rift(Was in Addiction raiding guild), LOTRO, WoW, Aion, at least. I've, on my own, completed Grand Master Crafter and I am self sufficient in all crafted gear. I see no reason to try for higher levels of gear, when good crafted gear makes overland mobs be one-shottable. Why would someone need the best if they're not playing at the level of game play that requires "the best"? Besides, the LFG tool works fine. I am in a guild where I do say, hey, anyone for x, y, z dungeon, and even though I don't particularly interact with the guild, I know I can at least rely on my guildies to be competent or at least willing to listen.

HowlKimchi

twilightwarrick wrote: »

Androconium wrote: »

I'm old. Like over 40 old. I just dont do that ***.

im 54 what don't you do, undaunted, and yes to Happylittletree I know its a MMO but perhaps they could have an option
or missions that give you better gear for people, that don't know many players, and struggle to find groups,
to do the missions they want to do.

You could go play a real single player game or an mmo-lite even. Something like Monster Hunter: World, and have waaaay more fun by yourself. This game's endgame is made with the intention of people coming together to accomplish different goals, aside for a few exceptions.

DocDova

I mostly play solo or small group stuff due to time zone issue, I am 37 years old and I know many senior players and we play together almost daily, we do BGs. It's lot of fun, one fren is 67 years old and lady almost 60.

Join a social guild of your liking, do stuff together and you will know whom you like and play with them. Sometimes people just click together. I use to play with son of my 67 yrs old fren, then he stopped playing and we started playing together. Ones we were in BGs and lady was playing alone. She was in other team 2 times and 3rd time in our team, we chatted and became friends. They play together daily and they even pooled their in game resources and she take care of their in game finances.

Another of my friend is 68 years old and they have small social guild of their own. You can find good friends you just need to explore multiplayer aspect and use headphone.

joseayalac

If you're on PC EU I can help you

IAmBones

Look up my guild "Old Timers Guild" Our youngest is like 25, our oldest is 91, yes 91. We have daily players that are 50+ (which include me). I personally don't due the dungeons, I leave that to the youngin's, but we do have some that do them, as well as the other content.

I have been with OTG for 12 years...great group of people. Tell em Bones sent ya.

Runkorko

twilightwarrick wrote: »

Him mm yes well I'm a bit fed up, as an older player, I don't really know many people playing and the few I do are usually offline, lately,
been trying to do a couple of undaunted missions to get some monster gear sets, well its almost impossible on my own,
and thinking about it most things in this game seen geared towards group play ,Alliance wars , Battlegrounds, dungeons undaunted.
really the only thing you can do as a single player are basic story missions, and the rewards are crap, I don't know,
I can join a group finder , but its usually not the missions I want to do, and if I post , nobody seems to do my quests, feel like its just a waste of time lately.
any advice would be welcome as how to solo some of these missions, I'm cp 290 night blade thanks

Options. Diferent sets/builds, for diferent situations. Improve your gameplay. Watch somge guides. Outside SOME quests/dungeons (mean they require more than 1-2 persons to be compleate because of mechanic) you can sollo everything.
Even some vet dungeons. So as i said, options. Every class is capable. Or find friends. There are tons of ppl playing this game/ shouldnt be that hard. I honestly dont know. Never looked for friends Good luck

LadySinflower

So I'm 52 and massively antisocial. I don't want to do group content ever. I'm like grumpy cat! Nope is my favorite word! I even get annoyed when I'm anywhere in the game and find another player at exactly the same step of the same quest at the same time as me. Or when others step in to bash on the same bad guy I'm currently destroying, when there are lots of others around for them to go after. My SO hears me b*tch endlessly.

BUT, it's not a solo game. Not 100% anyway. There are things you just can't do alone. So, I found a great bunch of guilds. I got into them for trading but quickly found that the people are fun, friendly, and very willing to teach if you need that. They have helped me in countless ways. They hold teaching groups for different activities. When I need people to run with, I know where to find them.

Seriously, join a guild. A social guild generally doesn't ask for dues. There are lots of ppl in chat advertising their guilds and there's a forum here for guilds. Ask them questions before you join. Yes, many guilds are full of 20-somethings but you would be surprised how many have a lot of members our age. One of my best buds in my guild is in her 60s and she will run (and kick a$$) through any content you suggest.

I'm anti-social but we can't always be that way. I suggest playing Skyrim if you want all content to be for solo play. Otherwise, find some friends and make it more fun!

Xbox NA here if you want to befriend me. Gamertag ShadokatPH66.

DocDova

Up to a good limit age doesn't matter in playing ESO, unless we develop delayed reflexes or due to pain in small joints of hands. We don't wanna try hard enough as a teenager or someone in their twenties. With age comes maturity.

That said, once I was in VAA as main tank (I never even tanked it on normal before) with guild people (most of them were like 5-10 years younger than me and it ended badly between us), some of them were pretty good dps and we were stuck on final boss and then after hesitation they called a lady who use to run trials regularly in craglorn (They didn't like her because they thought she would be very hard on them), She came, From voice I guessed she was probably between 50-60 yrs (sorry if I guessed it wrong). She told each of us where to stand, what to do, when to release our ultimate and guess what it went so smoothly.

So senior players can't just have good time in ESO, they can also be good at hard content. I at 37 lack competitiveness, Even if I die 12 times in single BG, my anger level would hardly be at level 1 on scale of 10 (unless it's due to lag, where it can be up to 3-4), Even if same player kill me 10 times, worst word I use would be 'Damn' in disappointment.

beadabow

Wow! A lot of replies here. I don't have time to read them all, so if I repeat something that has already been said, I apologize. I play a lot of solo, and have done a few vet dungeons solo. I have even entered and progressed through trials and content that are not designed to be solo-able, just to see if I can find a way! I was surprised at how far I got (as I have done them in groups to), but yes! There are solo-able parts of trials and DLC dungeons (I only did a few fights on Normal difficulty in Halls of Fabrication and Maw of Lorkhaj fighting trash mobs up to first boss- just for fun.) I just captured one of the forts in Cyrodil solo a couple of weeks ago. The challenge of playing solo is to find a way to succeed, and sometimes it is a hard lesson! I laughed at vet Maelstrom Arena when it picked me up and slammed me down just for thinking about stepping into the ring. Just got my Gold Inferno staff for last week's score along with a gold ring. Yes, I beat it- because I wouldn't give up. It's probably my most favorite solo-able content in the game- and the gear is very powerful stuff. I am 51 years old. Make it your game, like I do. And if our paths cross while we are out there, I salute you!

MornaBaine

MikaHR wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Dubhliam wrote: »

MikaHR wrote: »

Some misguided twitter/facebook scrub made a mistake as Matt Frior clearly said it is NOT.

Okay... can you ask Matt Firor then why are they pumping out two dungeon DLCs per year that are designed for 4 players?

That's easy though: Bad marketing decisions and laziness. They realized they didn't want to go to the trouble of doing 4 zone DLCs a year. Frankly, I'm still saltly about this bait and switch.

2 big expansions on "chapter" scale with proper content would be much much better arrangement.

I absolutely agree with this. I want stuff on the scale of Wrothgar dammit, not these little Sims-esque hoods we've been saddled with.

theuglyalkonost

I play solo. I have weird hours and am never online when my guilds are doing group stuff, so solo play is a necessity. I have been playing for 3 years and I freaking love this game and still haven't finished all the soloable content (of course, it doesn't help that I have 15 toons, lol).

I'm at CP 505. My main toon can do everything solo except vet dungeons and trials. I neither have nor need monster sets. I crafted for myself Hunding's Rage and Night Mother's Gaze sets and improved them to gold. I create my own food and drinks. As someone else said, the high quality provisioning resources give you serious buffs. My rotation is decent, but not stellar. I'm nowhere close to what the super serious PvE/vet dungeon and PvP players are at...but I don't need to be, precisely because I'm solo.

I don't give a crap about the rewards from the quests. That's not why I play. I play for the scope of the game, the beauty of the scenery and the music, the sheer number and variety of activities to be done, the fun of crafting and then furnishing houses, being an achievement completionist (someday I'll be able to finish the group stuff, too!), and the challenge of going up against these big world bosses, dolmens, public dungeons, and undaunted quests by myself.

I know a lot of people have recommended guilds, and I agree with them that guilds are a huge asset. However, I only found guilds that I really like and felt comfortable with a few months ago, so if you don't want to join a guild or are still in the process of finding ones you like, here's my advice in the meantime:

* Craft, craft, craft and farm, farm, farm. Get to the point that you can build yourself some really solid sets and improve them to gold. Get to the point that you can craft yourself some serious consumables that give you powerful buffs.
* Steal everything you can get your dirty paws on. At first you won't get a lot of exciting stuff, but the more you do it the more you'll start getting some serious loot that will help you out.
* Get yourself a house, get yourself a target dummy, and practice your rotation. Git gud. For soloing you don't have to be great, but you gotta be able to smack around some big bad guys.
* Utilize the achievements section of your Journal menu and the shiny fancy new zone guides to track how much you've done and how much you still have to do. I learned about so many aspects of the game I didn't even know were a thing when I started paying attention to achievements.

And of course, as others have said, have fun! Don't put pressure on yourself to get monster sets or play beyond your current capacity. Just enjoy the ride. It's just a game!

Watchdog

MikaHR wrote: »

Watchdog wrote: »

Is this one really the only one wondering where the OP has been for the majority of this thread?

GIven up due to all misguided "ITS A MMO" trolls spamming the thread.

Well, if it looks like a dog, barks like a dog, smells like a dog and feels like a dog when you pat it, it most probably is a dog.

Replace "it" with "ESO" and "dog" with "MMMORPG", metaphorically, of course, and you can count me among thems trolls too.

MikaHR

It can easily be a wolf. Or a fox. See how easily you can get fooled.

When Matt Frior is right he is right.

"Our bigger challenge has been to educate players that we are not a traditional 2004-style MMO and much more an expansive online Elder Scrolls RPG."

"MF: Again, we’re not really a traditional MMO, we are much more of a hybrid, kind of like an ‘online RPG’. The term MMO is freighted with a lot of pre-conceived notions, most of which are outdated and obsolete. But, no, of course we had no qualms about making an online Elder Scrolls game – we were following just two and a half years after one of the best-selling (and awesome) RPGs in history: Skyrim, which ignited huge interest in the Elder Scrolls as a brand."


ANd THAT is why ESO is not a MMO and why calling it a MMO is misleading/deceiving. It is Skyrim online no matter how much you want to disbelieve it. ANd it became Skyrim online when first iteration failed miserably and they had to rework the whole game (even before that they NEVER advertised it as a "MMO")

Malkiv

MikaHR wrote: »

It can easily be a wolf. Or a fox. See how easily you can get fooled.

When Matt Frior is right he is right.

"Our bigger challenge has been to educate players that we are not a traditional 2004-style MMO and much more an expansive online Elder Scrolls RPG."

"MF: Again, we’re not really a traditional MMO, we are much more of a hybrid, kind of like an ‘online RPG’. The term MMO is freighted with a lot of pre-conceived notions, most of which are outdated and obsolete. But, no, of course we had no qualms about making an online Elder Scrolls game – we were following just two and a half years after one of the best-selling (and awesome) RPGs in history: Skyrim, which ignited huge interest in the Elder Scrolls as a brand."


ANd THAT is why ESO is not a MMO and why calling it a MMO is misleading/deceiving. It is Skyrim online no matter how much you want to disbelieve it. ANd it became Skyrim online when first iteration failed miserably and they had to rework the whole game (even before that they NEVER advertised it as a "MMO")

But it's not Skyrim Online; The mechanics (combat or otherwise) are not the same, it's online, Skyrim does not have classes - there are archetypes. Even the way skills and skill trees work are nothing like the Skyrim perks and signs. So, no, it cannot be called Skyrim Online even for the sake of an argument. With that mentality, it could be called Two Worlds II Online.

Also, those lines that you cherry-picked from Matt Firor's interview with GameCentral are pretty well out of context. Those quotes are in regards to how the underlying mechanics operate differently than the cookie-cutter Western MMORPG, and how the experience wasn't tailored for a "hardcore" crowd.

From the same interview:

Matt Firor: ESO has been super-successful at taking gamers not used to massive online games, introducing them to the concepts of group play by making it fun and optional, and turning them into online gamers.
...
After PC launch, and especially leading up to console launch mid-last year, we have done a great job setting customer expectations about what ESO is, and now that it has become so popular, I don’t think we run into anyone thinking the game is Skyrim 2.

barney2525

dogman wrote: »

"ESO is not single player friendly"


does the definition of an MMORPG mean something else where you're from?

You mean I gotta get married again?.. drat... that sux

last I checked that definition was Massive Multi-player etc etc. That means there will be a lot of players around. And, quite frankly, that is All it means.

Just because there are a lot of players who are not NPCs that you 'Can' interact with... it does not follow that MMORPG means you Must be in groups to succeed. THAT issue will be determined by the specific game company and their game.

KMarble

I mostly play alone and enjoy every single minute of it. One thing I haven't seen mentioned - and I read most of the posts - is that the OP seems to be focusing only on the rewards they get.

As pointed by numerous people so far, one option is to join a guild so the OP can get the rewards they want. Another is to focus on the journey instead of the destination. If the OP is adamant in remaining alone, taking pleasure on the quest instead of the rewards it gives might be a better way to go.

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