What is your endgame PvP goal?

technohic

Other.

I would have said just chill with my friends, but that is just what makes it more bearable. Changing up builds and character also just makes it bearable and might help toward my goal. Really; I just like to get better little by little.

Tirps

Other.

Have fun and get some ap while on it, but that fun part just feels way too hard to achieve at this time of era..

Knootewoot

Other.

Just to have fun. Defend keeps, attack keeps, heal my faction and burn enemy sieges.

If we win, i think it's great. If we lose.. well, i like defending a keep more so i dont mind.

Mrsinister2

I just wana kill people and knock them off ledges and bridges

Do sweet jumps on my horse

And make it up the keep stairs in only one try

Nermy

To help my guild/s.

To PvP

Cry

To win campaigns for my faction.

To make AD great again inst an option...

Lord_Sando

Other.

Most of my time in pvp is sent attempting to summon my mount....

Delimber

Other.

My goal is to advance from the worst pvper to the 2nd worst pvper

ChunkyCat

Other.

Have fun.

Minno

Other.

KILL and tbag nightblades, earthgore/slouds/snipe users lol.

montiferus

To become the best 1/2/3vXer or outnumbered PvP player I can be.

I should have put "other" which is to say

I hope one day to get out of combat when the combat I was initially engaged in actually concluded.

Sadly this is how low the bar is set for this game.

cpuScientist

I WANNA BE THE VERY BEST
LIKE NO ONE EVER WAS!!!
TO CRUSH EP IS MY REAL QUEST
TO PWN AD MY CAUSE!!!
ELDER SCROLLS!!?

BaylorCorvette

Other.

Original goal was Grand Overlord and Emperor, both of which I've attained.

Now it's taking my 6-7 man and trying to win super outnumbered fights and having fun with builds while doing it. I don't require anyone in my group to run a specific class/build/gear set up so we aren't min/max but still have success.

Kikazaru

Other.

My endgame goal is to see how long it takes for me to disconnect after logging into cyrodiil.

emma666

Mintaka5 wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

@Mintaka5 I can help you find that secret sauce if you want. Just ask me in pms or in game. But you might not like the answer because the short version is you just need to practice and play a lot to try to get better.

@LeifErickson well my point is there shouldn't be a "secret sauce". You see me often in PvP, so not liking the answer is an irrelevant point. I've been playing this game for years, on multiple types of builds. I've have spent 100s of hours learning different types of rotations, swapping out all kinds of gear, and manipulating CP. I practice on a target dummy. I was in a dueling guild, where we practiced every day. Even after fighting you I have made many adjustments to my build, but I cannot learn from someone who kills in 1 or 2 executions, because I don't understand the dynamic of what happened in such a short period of time. I've made the effort to get better, and have not gotten better. Why?

The mere fact that you and a handful of other players in PvP consistently dominate demonstrates that your builds are too OP compared to the general population of the game due to a designed mechanic and not soley skill, or you might be using some kind of cheat. I'm not accusing you, but honestly, no one wins all of the time. NO ONE! Why not just tell us all what the secret is. I'm sure we'd all like to LEARN it.

Light attacks, animation canceling, a basic understanding of other classes skills, efficient build, good ping and pure reflexes.
If you've played the game for years and spent 100s of hours "learning" but still get one shot on the regular by lowbies in 1v1s, you are doing something wrong. It's also rude to slyly accuse people who are better than you of cheating, especially when they offer you help.

Mr_Walker

To have fun.

emma666 wrote: »

Light attacks, animation canceling, a basic understanding of other classes skills, efficient build, good ping and pure reflexes.
If you've played the game for years and spent 100s of hours "learning" but still get one shot on the regular by lowbies in 1v1s, you are doing something wrong. It's also rude to slyly accuse people who are better than you of cheating, especially when they offer you help.

Sadly, this very important factor means everyone outside con US and Europe is fighting with one hand tied behind their back.

Just to illustrate... I only tank dungeons on normal, with a sap tank, to ease the burden on the healer. Why? Because by the time I see the cues on the screen to block/interrupt, the server already thinks I've failed. Even though on my end I've blocked/interrupted with plenty of time up my sleeve.

Bit disheartening sometimes really. Also affects ani-cancelling to an extent.

Darkmage1337

Other.

To get Emperor on all 9/9 characters (soon to be 10/10 with Necromancer coming soon).
Currently 5/9 Former Emperor characters, so already halfway there.
After that, you know, play the game, PvP, teach new players, etc.

emma666

Mr_Walker wrote: »

To have fun.

emma666 wrote: »

Light attacks, animation canceling, a basic understanding of other classes skills, efficient build, good ping and pure reflexes.
If you've played the game for years and spent 100s of hours "learning" but still get one shot on the regular by lowbies in 1v1s, you are doing something wrong. It's also rude to slyly accuse people who are better than you of cheating, especially when they offer you help.

Sadly, this very important factor means everyone outside con US and Europe is fighting with one hand tied behind their back.

Just to illustrate... I only tank dungeons on normal, with a sap tank, to ease the burden on the healer. Why? Because by the time I see the cues on the screen to block/interrupt, the server already thinks I've failed. Even though on my end I've blocked/interrupted with plenty of time up my sleeve.

Bit disheartening sometimes really. Also affects ani-cancelling to an extent.

Oh yeah, I know all too well! I play from Europe on NA server and having that extra delay and lag is frustrating to say the least.

Mudcrabber

Other.

I pvp to get caltrops and transmute crystals.

Knootewoot

Other.

cpuScientist wrote: »

I WANNA BE THE VERY BEST
LIKE NO ONE EVER WAS!!!
TO CRUSH EP IS MY REAL QUEST
TO PWN AD MY CAUSE!!!
ELDER SCROLLS!!?

This made my day. Ok, back to work...

KenaPKK

PvP is ded, please stop making stupid polls on the forums.

Mintaka5 wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

@Mintaka5 I can help you find that secret sauce if you want. Just ask me in pms or in game. But you might not like the answer because the short version is you just need to practice and play a lot to try to get better.

@LeifErickson well my point is there shouldn't be a "secret sauce". You see me often in PvP, so not liking the answer is an irrelevant point. I've been playing this game for years, on multiple types of builds. I've have spent 100s of hours learning different types of rotations, swapping out all kinds of gear, and manipulating CP. I practice on a target dummy. I was in a dueling guild, where we practiced every day. Even after fighting you I have made many adjustments to my build, but I cannot learn from someone who kills in 1 or 2 executions, because I don't understand the dynamic of what happened in such a short period of time. I've made the effort to get better, and have not gotten better. Why?

The mere fact that you and a handful of other players in PvP consistently dominate demonstrates that your builds are too OP compared to the general population of the game due to a designed mechanic and not soley skill, or you might be using some kind of cheat. I'm not accusing you, but honestly, no one wins all of the time. NO ONE! Why not just tell us all what the secret is. I'm sure we'd all like to LEARN it.

If you have truly dedicated the time you claim to learning PvP but still fail to improve past getting one shot within two burst attempts, then you're doing something wrong.

To quickly run through your list, rotations, gear, CP, and target dummies are the last things you need to be focused on.

You are spot on that you cannot learn from a person who kills you quickly. You need someone to sit down for longer duels, pushing your limits and teaching you without killing you outright.

I advise you not to look first to gear or CP alterations after losing fights. The most significant improvement will be a mental shift to genuine self-criticism fueling mechanical practice. The "secret" is, first and foremost, blaming yourself for each loss -- looking at your own gameplay for mistakes and improvements -- not your gear or other players' gear or "cheats" or other external factors. I can tell from your confusion and from your frustrated pms floating around in Discord screenshots that you struggle with this humility and self-criticism. The second secret is surrounding yourself with friends who want to help you improve and are significantly better than you in order to elevate yourself. Only lastly do equipment, CP, and other external factors weigh in. You can tweak those things once you've established your mental attitude and some teachers, but honestly your build will not be a vital factor in "getting good."

That's my genuine advice to you. Legend is the active dueling guild on PC NA currently. You're welcome to join to get back into a learning community. Hmu in game if you'd like.

Royaji

Other.

To get as many teabags as I can after rolling people over in a zerg

LeifErickson

To become the best 1/2/3vXer or outnumbered PvP player I can be.

KenaPKK wrote: »

Mintaka5 wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

@Mintaka5 I can help you find that secret sauce if you want. Just ask me in pms or in game. But you might not like the answer because the short version is you just need to practice and play a lot to try to get better.

@LeifErickson well my point is there shouldn't be a "secret sauce". You see me often in PvP, so not liking the answer is an irrelevant point. I've been playing this game for years, on multiple types of builds. I've have spent 100s of hours learning different types of rotations, swapping out all kinds of gear, and manipulating CP. I practice on a target dummy. I was in a dueling guild, where we practiced every day. Even after fighting you I have made many adjustments to my build, but I cannot learn from someone who kills in 1 or 2 executions, because I don't understand the dynamic of what happened in such a short period of time. I've made the effort to get better, and have not gotten better. Why?

The mere fact that you and a handful of other players in PvP consistently dominate demonstrates that your builds are too OP compared to the general population of the game due to a designed mechanic and not soley skill, or you might be using some kind of cheat. I'm not accusing you, but honestly, no one wins all of the time. NO ONE! Why not just tell us all what the secret is. I'm sure we'd all like to LEARN it.

If you have truly dedicated the time you claim to learning PvP but still fail to improve past getting one shot within two burst attempts, then you're doing something wrong.

To quickly run through your list, rotations, gear, CP, and target dummies are the last things you need to be focused on.

You are spot on that you cannot learn from a person who kills you quickly. You need someone to sit down for longer duels, pushing your limits and teaching you without killing you outright.

I advise you not to look first to gear or CP alterations after losing fights. The most significant improvement will be a mental shift to genuine self-criticism fueling mechanical practice. The "secret" is, first and foremost, blaming yourself for each loss -- looking at your own gameplay for mistakes and improvements -- not your gear or other players' gear or "cheats" or other external factors. I can tell from your confusion and from your frustrated pms floating around in Discord screenshots that you struggle with this humility and self-criticism. The second secret is surrounding yourself with friends who want to help you improve and are significantly better than you in order to elevate yourself. Only lastly do equipment, CP, and other external factors weigh in. You can tweak those things once you've established your mental attitude and some teachers, but honestly your build will not be a vital factor in "getting good."

That's my genuine advice to you. Legend is the active dueling guild on PC NA currently. You're welcome to join to get back into a learning community. Hmu in game if you'd like.

@Mintaka5 This is the secret sauce you are looking for.

CyrusArya

To become the best 1/2/3vXer or outnumbered PvP player I can be.

LeifErickson wrote: »

@Mintaka5 This is the secret sauce you are looking for.

Awe man. I thought it was Sriracha....

On a serious note, to address the topic, its always been to improve as a player and hone the classes I enjoy. The whole process is enjoyable from the drawing board to the battlefield. In my experience, the journey is just as important as the destination.

Ahtu

Other.

I fight to unite Cyrodiil (Vivec).

NBrookus

To become the best 1/2/3vXer or outnumbered PvP player I can be.

KenaPKK wrote: »

I advise you not to look first to gear or CP alterations after losing fights. The most significant improvement will be a mental shift to genuine self-criticism fueling mechanical practice. The "secret" is, first and foremost, blaming yourself for each loss -- looking at your own gameplay for mistakes and improvements -- not your gear or other players' gear or "cheats" or other external factors.

The game is also a lot more fun if your first thought after losing is "that person did X very well" instead of dwelling on a negative.

Turelus

To win campaigns for my faction.

I've always played for objectives, it gives some meaning and enjoyment to Cyrodiil. Especially when you play with large organised guilds and can play the map like an RTS.

Zelos

Other.

To see how long I can go without crashing or forcing a game crash becuase of how much lag there is when trying to 1vX:)

Ragnaroek93

PvP is ded, please stop making stupid polls on the forums.

The PvP part in this game is dead. It doesn't have enough skill ceiling nor is competitive enough for me personally. I don't understand how people are still willing to put much effort into this game in the current state, it's imo far less impressive than being good at other stuff.

Murador178

PvP is ded, please stop making stupid polls on the forums.

Lag has killed PvP and the fact how easy it is to survive in this game. The real PvP is in the forum these days. And like @Ragnaroek93 said the skill ceiling is too low .