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Datamined "Chapter III" - The Elder Scrolls Online: Elsweyr

  • Callous2208
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Until another OP class enters the battlefield that does everything better than existing classes and when Paarthurnax greats me to give me quests.

    When did this actually happen? Warden isn't OP and Stamden is just OP because of Stamina's overperformance in PvP.
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    Oh and dear all, could we get rid of the personal attacks please? This thread is dedicated towards Chapter III related stuff.

    I'm done being a negative nancy. I really do hope it makes some kind of sense though. I know those in charge at ZoS and the overall ESO playerbase at this point cares little for lore and that's fine. I'm just a big fan of the world they've created thus far and like to see things that make sense from canonical standpoint. I do like new content though so I'll be happy for now.
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    Saturnana wrote: »
    Considering the specific wording in the game files, I don't think we'll be getting a new class but rather a new skill line.

    I think that would make more sense indeed. Otherwise they would have to make 3 skill lines based on necromancy somehow. Seems a bit too much.
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  • Callous2208
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    Woeler wrote: »
    Saturnana wrote: »
    Considering the specific wording in the game files, I don't think we'll be getting a new class but rather a new skill line.

    I think that would make more sense indeed. Otherwise they would have to make 3 skill lines based on necromancy somehow. Seems a bit too much.

    It does seem a bit much. If their were no sorcerer in this game already, eh, I could maybe see it then. But not with the classes we have now. Just not enough there to make a full class. Could be wrong though.
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Let me tell you about the moment when I was born. I knew back then, that stamina Wardens will reign supreme over Cyrodiil. I anticipiated from the very beginning that Wardens will be stupid broken. And once I saw the leaked abilities, I called it and as I called it so it came. Step into Cyrodiil and behold it.

    It's an overpowered class and necromancy will follow its legacy. Why ? Because the chapter must sell. Once the first pvpers tell the stories of how mighty the class is, people are forced to buy the chapter even if they do not directly play the content. ZoS will make sure that class is overperforming nicely in certain areas.

    I honestly don't see this happening, Warden for its first year was very underwhelming in all aspects. Stamden just became a thing in 2018 iirc. Warden, during 2017, was quite an unwanted class (and is still in some areas).
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    Necromancer in no target mmo is the worst idea ever
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    Woeler wrote: »
    Saturnana wrote: »
    Considering the specific wording in the game files, I don't think we'll be getting a new class but rather a new skill line.

    I think that would make more sense indeed. Otherwise they would have to make 3 skill lines based on necromancy somehow. Seems a bit too much.

    It does seem a bit much. If their were no sorcerer in this game already, eh, I could maybe see it then. But not with the classes we have now. Just not enough there to make a full class. Could be wrong though.

    I would love to see this skillline integrated in the current class/roles. Tanks with undeads? Nice.
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  • Callous2208
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    Woeler wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Saturnana wrote: »
    Considering the specific wording in the game files, I don't think we'll be getting a new class but rather a new skill line.

    I think that would make more sense indeed. Otherwise they would have to make 3 skill lines based on necromancy somehow. Seems a bit too much.

    It does seem a bit much. If their were no sorcerer in this game already, eh, I could maybe see it then. But not with the classes we have now. Just not enough there to make a full class. Could be wrong though.

    I would love to see this skillline integrated in the current class/roles. Tanks with undeads? Nice.

    Now that is in interesting prospect.
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    At the moment we're discussing the topic in several different threads but we're missing a comprehensive one so I thought it would be nice to have one huge thread with all the datamining directly presented.

    As we learned today, the upcoming Chapter III will take place in Elsweyr. What we know by datamining as of now:

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    Venture to the land of the Khajiit in The Elder Scrolls Online: Elsweyr, our newest chapter, an epic story in an all-new zone. Face dread creatures from the past—Dragons!—and discover the dark skills of a new character class, the Necromancer, as you join with new friends and old enemies to save Elsweyr from war and devastation.

    ESO reaches new heights of storytelling with a war against the Dragons that unfolds and builds over four quarterly releases to an unexpected climax.



    Features of Chapter III: Elsweyr will be:

    - New zone: Elsweyr

    - New class: Necromancer

    - New "enemies": Dragons

    - Overarching plotline throughout all of 2019's releases

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    Information directly from UESP Discord. Thanks to all the dataminers and the hard work, really appreciated!

    Special thanks to UESP Discord's @Thalmor_Justiciar AKA Smirkmire (I hope you don't mind I put the information together in this thread). He said he's datamining more stuff later that we know what's coming (skills, architecture etc.) - I will keep this thread updated.

    If they would redo the cp system and tam one scaling I would come back
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    Woeler wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Saturnana wrote: »
    Considering the specific wording in the game files, I don't think we'll be getting a new class but rather a new skill line.

    I think that would make more sense indeed. Otherwise they would have to make 3 skill lines based on necromancy somehow. Seems a bit too much.

    It does seem a bit much. If their were no sorcerer in this game already, eh, I could maybe see it then. But not with the classes we have now. Just not enough there to make a full class. Could be wrong though.

    I would love to see this skillline integrated in the current class/roles. Tanks with undeads? Nice.

    Something we could have had with spellcrafting, but the call for a new class was apparently stronger.

    I don't really see how this is a good decision on ZOS' part, a new class is useless to all of my existing 15 characters.
    Yes, maybe they'll grant us a new char slot like they did with the Warden, but even so, it doesn't strike me as fun to have to abandon the characters you've played for years to experience new features.
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    Dracane wrote: »
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    You lore-nerds are ridiculous. Game should be fun, first and foremost and retconning and lore is par for the course in any online game based off an established IP.

    WoW is the perfect example of a game that proved muteable and adaptable over time, and that’s a testament to great design.

    This Chapter will be ESO’s WoTLK moment. I guarantee.

    In a game where the enforcement of the questionable goals of a lead combat designer for the sake of game fun, is more important than anything else, there is no fun.

    The purpose of this game can't be to have fun. All the nerfs we suffered to the most relevant aspect of a game (which is combat) are destroying the fun one patch at a time.

    When you’re this deep into the game that it’s design choices “offend” you on a profound level, to the point where you’re contstructing conspiracy theories, it’s best to step away. I do, and each time I’m better for it and return with renewed interest.
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    Dracane wrote: »
    There goes what was left of lore and logic. :D Real Dragons in ESO, which never happened and which was confirmed by ZoS to never happen. And undead chilling in all major towns and social hubs.

    Glad I'm not the only one that sees this. I mean eso has been playing fast and loose with the lore since inception, but this is truly jumping the shark and disregarding all lore entirely.

    There are a few dragons in hidden places of the world. A scarce few. Many dragons fled Skyrim after the Dragon Wars so to any hidden dragon would likely be far from Skyrim. Remind you, some accounts of Tiber Septim's conquest of Tamriel talk of a Red Jewel of his crown, an actual living Dragon that fought for him.
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    Waiting for the Necromancer class.
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  • PIEGOD
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    Super hyped been waiting for a new class....hope its a new class.....I don't worry about balance its already messed just keep going fudge it (can I say that here)
  • Callous2208
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    Dracane wrote: »
    There goes what was left of lore and logic. :D Real Dragons in ESO, which never happened and which was confirmed by ZoS to never happen. And undead chilling in all major towns and social hubs.

    Glad I'm not the only one that sees this. I mean eso has been playing fast and loose with the lore since inception, but this is truly jumping the shark and disregarding all lore entirely.

    There are a few dragons in hidden places of the world. A scarce few. Many dragons fled Skyrim after the Dragon Wars so to any hidden dragon would likely be far from Skyrim. Remind you, some accounts of Tiber Septim's conquest of Tamriel talk of a Red Jewel of his crown, an actual living Dragon that fought for him.

    That is true. I was really just hoping it isn't treated like some horde of dragons flying around everywhere and selling me bag upgrades in the streets. :D
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    Adding new stuff... that is great, but how about fixing the existing stuff, lag and performance issue first ?

    The masses have spoken and that ship has sailed sadly.
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    GCVDJ11T wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    There goes what was left of lore and logic. :D Real Dragons in ESO, which never happened and which was confirmed by ZoS to never happen. And undead chilling in all major towns and social hubs.

    Actually they are not lore breaking. In Skyrim the Book Atlas of Dragons there were dragons that still survived. Here are the ones that they talk about.


    Ahbiilok - Location unknown Lairing somewhere near Morrowind
    Mirmulnir - Survived Brown Dragon Last sighted in the Reach 2E 212
    Nahfahlaar - Survived Red Dragon Last sighted 2E 369, Wayrest. Last known protector was king Casimir II. He escaped and current location is unknown
    Nafaalilargus - Slain - 2E 864 Red Dragon Protector was Tiber Septim 2E863
    Naaslaarum - Survived Revered Dragon Forgotten Vale
    Voslaarum -Survived Revered Dragon Forgotten Vale
    Vulthuryol - Survived Ancient Dragon Blackreach Deep beneath the ruins of Mzinchaleft, Raldbthar, and Alftand

    Paarthurnax - Survived Elder Dragon Throat of the world
    Relonikiv - Survived Blood Dragon Apocrypha
    Kruziikrel - Survived Brown Dragon Apocrypha
    Sahrotaar - Survived Serpentine Dragon Apocrypha
    Yeah but if you look at the picture in the OP, none of those really fit the description. This Dragon looks young and very odd
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