PvP December 2018

Skander

You see what's wrong with this picture

MalagenR

Skander wrote: »

You see what's wrong with this picture

You got killed? I don't get it.

Solariken

When faced with multiple attackers, try using Spear Shards or Piercing Javelin to even the odds.

idk

spear shards no longer stuns. That last suggestion is to stun one opponent.

Though Zos could come back and say it is not a useless suggestion because shares still does AoE damage as an excuse for an incorrect suggestion. They did state similar with the Warden bear morph that revives the bear when it dies. Since it no longer dies in group instances they used PvP as the excuse that the morph was not totally useless even though few actually PvP.

Iskiab

Ah I see the problem, someone isn’t wearing pvp gear and is in all light pve gear.

Skander

Wrong: Rendering Slashes did more damage then a ultimate in fewer ticks

Also implosion is ridicule.

Volckodav

and using northen storm instead of permafrost?

idk

Skander wrote: »

Wrong: Rendering Slashes did more damage then a ultimate in fewer ticks

Also implosion is ridicule.

With the information provided we cannot see if that is an issue or not. If it is two different players then one could be tankier than the other.

Implosion has an extremely low chance to proc. 6% is very low. You just got unlucky.

CatchMeTrolling

Rending slashes

MalagenR

lots of crying is what I see, you got X'd by a team, big deal

CyrusArya

While it did do more damage in less ticks, Rending ticks once every two seconds as opposed to every second like most dots including Northern Storm. So the dps is consistent. And Rending is a single target skill while Perma is a massive aoe with a stun/snare that provides major protection with huge group utility.

This is why death recaps are a terrible way to judge balance.

E: for what it’s worth I do think bleeds as a whole could be adjusted, although I think rending is fine and should remain strong. It’s just highly disningenuous and/or ignorant to imply rending does twice as much dps as sleet storm.

Aznox

i call fake on the December 2018 part

Conduit0

Only problem I see is that you got focused by a team and are crying about the inevitable outcome of that situation.

Waffennacht

I'm surprised they had 4 different classes.

I expected x2 leaps, maybe a Dawnbreaker.

A minimum of 7 secs against x4 minimum players that coordinate an ultrasound dump is actually really good.

kaithuzar

idk wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Wrong: Rendering Slashes did more damage then a ultimate in fewer ticks

Also implosion is ridicule.

With the information provided we cannot see if that is an issue or not. If it is two different players then one could be tankier than the other.

Implosion has an extremely low chance to proc. 6% is very low. You just got unlucky.

Implosion proc can be setup & timed; it’s not luck because it will consistently proc.

Skander

Conduit0 wrote: »

Only problem I see is that you got focused by a team and are crying about the inevitable outcome of that situation.

It was a team fight.

Maybe think of all the option instead? huh?

Bashev

kaithuzar wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Wrong: Rendering Slashes did more damage then a ultimate in fewer ticks

Also implosion is ridicule.

With the information provided we cannot see if that is an issue or not. If it is two different players then one could be tankier than the other.

Implosion has an extremely low chance to proc. 6% is very low. You just got unlucky.

Implosion proc can be setup & timed; it’s not luck because it will consistently proc.

How? Can you teach me please?

Brutusmax1mus

What happened to blob?

I got hit with a 8500 implosion a dew days ago, that's gotta change.

idk

kaithuzar wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Wrong: Rendering Slashes did more damage then a ultimate in fewer ticks

Also implosion is ridicule.

With the information provided we cannot see if that is an issue or not. If it is two different players then one could be tankier than the other.

Implosion has an extremely low chance to proc. 6% is very low. You just got unlucky.

Implosion proc can be setup & timed; it’s not luck because it will consistently proc.

6% chance is hard to time. It is a dice roll. Target has to be below 15% max health for it to proc. Seems so hard to time. It is luck, or unlucky depending on what side of the attack one is on.

del9

why did you scrub all names except blobs?

No one even likes blobs.

Btw northern storm ticks every second, and rending other. So the storm still had more dps.

TheYKcid

Northern Storm is the only problem I see with that recap.

Everything else is raw damage with conditions attached, nothing unreasonable.

gepe87

Where is Steel Tornado?

Checkmath

@Aznox
Blobs still plays the game, at least he still plays trade simulator, saw hes guild advertisement in craglorn recently. But he doesnt stream and do videos anymore. He maybe still is angry about not getting rep or not being listened to by them

About the death recap:
As people already said, rending ticked 5 times, so it was around 10 seconds on you. In that case you just need to expect to get a high number in the death recap. From looking at the recap, I also thing the enemy group played coordinated, therefore a high puryfying light tooltip and two ultimates in the recap. Implosion was just bad luck and I also expected a steel tornado somewhere...

ChunkyCat

Death recap needs more oblivion damage.

Thogard

Skander wrote: »

You see what's wrong with this picture

You stood inside a northern storm for 7s because you’re on a tanky build designed for stalemating...?

Skander wrote: »

Wrong: Rendering Slashes did more damage then a ultimate in fewer ticks

Also implosion is ridicule.

Rending ticks every 2s so it actually was affecting you longer. Storm was more dps in this case.

WoppaBoem

Lol you got killed by a team so what, no matter what skills or what not if 3 attacked you and 2 use their ultimates you are dead in BG.....

technohic

So you took 35k damage in the middle of an ulti-dump so I assume a pretty tanky build which means you'll mitigate a lot more of anything other than the bleed.

Joy_Division

Skander wrote: »

You see what's wrong with this picture

I see not being on a very good team and died to multiple ultimates by a higher MMR team.

Yes, ZOS should do something to make a better match-making system for Battlegrounds.

NordSwordnBoard

Skander wrote: »

Wrong: Rendering Slashes did more damage then a ultimate in fewer ticks

Also implosion is ridicule.

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One of these is not like the others...

Not saying its you, my guess is you were soloing a flag and got Xv1'd?

Checkmath

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Wrong: Rendering Slashes did more damage then a ultimate in fewer ticks

Also implosion is ridicule.

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One of these is not like the others...

Not saying its you, my guess is you were soloing a flag and got Xv1'd?

Wait, all three numbers are different...omg, how can that be????

haakira

I don't get why people are getting so off topic?
What he's trying to show is that a DOT skill is doing way more than all ultimates that were dumped on him.
A DOT that can also have attached to it another bleed, which does similar damage on top of it.
So yeah, it's pretty dumb damage from a such a low cost, almost 100% uptime, low effort skill.