account wide achievements?

Edziu

at start I was never great with creating threads..but lets try as I cant see any live thread about this

I was playing since beta this game and just after around 3 months after game release I have started playing my main char at wich I was doing every possible achievement which I could.
Even I was not playing to much alts just because all I want to get is just on my main because I will not have something reached on alt if I dont complete this on my main.
We all know that some classes are the best choices for tank or healer and it is much easier to find an group for hard content to do even acheivements as tank or healer because most people just like or want be DPS.
unfortunately for me my main is nb so for most of the time this game I was viable to jsut dps on this char on real hard content which was harder to find full team (easy to find another dps but hard to find tank and healer)

ok so what I could suggest about account wide achievements?

all will be just account wide just as acheivement
I have 2 suggestions how to make achievements with titles about many players will get "***hurt" in their immersion (as someone could done vMA for example on "cheassy" class to this and have used title on harder to play class):

- these will be just acievements to you so you can gather different achievements for you account on different character without need to repeat it on every other char which you want to have but could be to tedious to repeat and titles will be still only for this char which have completed this
- (better option for me) add some more achievements for done same content but on different class and will be it different title for this. and with this would be added more achievmenets to hunt

Done "X" on "Y" class to get "Z" title
for example: you ahve completed vMA without death on sorc so you will get title flawless sorcerer instead of conqueror, you have done it on nightblade so you get flawless nightblade title in another achievement

these are just my suggestions to not have problem with some players immersion and if this still is prolbem to someone's immerion..please reply here with your option which could be also done to have viable account wide achievs

and exploration and with this probably skyshards - this I think could be the worst part to not destroy many RP's their immersion.
so how we can do it?

1st time exploration as its in achievement ofc will be in these achievs account wide but these will be only achievements
map exploration will be again fully viable to explora again on your new character, so map will be empty at start of your new character but this really could help with immersion other players who dont care to much about again exploring map but to have visible in achievements they have done it in overall

was also threads with skyshards or skillpoint account wide...this I will leave as it is s you need to gather again on every new character but...but it could be and QoL for mainly pvp players if just skyshards could be buyable for alliance points like it is in gw2 with hero points(skillpoints)
so for currency from pvp you can unlock single shkysards from choosen zone like in gw2 you can unloc her points from choosen zone for their pvp currency - this could be great option especially for pvp player whose jsut dont care on pve like many pve players dont care pvp so all could be happy


and style motifs - for me it is one of biggest things I hate for achievements per character locked.
I know cosmetic styles etc for outfits, appearance are account bound, but what I want about achievements for learning styles?

- well many people have often I see problem they jsut ate and motif page fr their noncrafter or alt about which they dont care

- at all people would not want to learn 99% of motifs again on different character only for achievement for him as many motifs are not cheap, many are cheap especially these old ones but tbh now we have ton of different motifs and its really expensive to learn all of them on single character even ignorin these newest which are much more expensinve and so with would not be that worth to spend more gold for same motifs but on different characte only for acheivement as Im sure people will mainly have just single crafter to craft all.

crafter will be still crafter as they have skillpoints, passives for this while normal char...well you will just see you have earned this achievement and you could us motif on every other char just single time per account so you wont waste more motifs by mistake on alts which you dont want


andskillines
as we have achievements for reached max lvl in vampire, undaunted, mages guild etc...well same as with exploration...it is just achievement with title to show you have done it before on your another character and to look for you how complete total achievements you have so you dont see new character like nude with nothing which you have done before
going back to skillines - as it is as achievement visible you still have to level this on new character

and ok, here I think people with have with just undeaunted as it is leveled via dung achievements - so my solution is easy to things like just this with undaunted:

you see in account achievements you have done these but on new char you will have another mark like "X" for not done yet on this char and "check: mark you have done it for xp
(this will not add additional achievs points for completing again sam achiev but will be just info you have done/not done yet this on this char to lvl up his undeaunted etc


ah and almost forgot about most important thing...I have seen some player have also immersion to have achievements per character so to not hurt and then this would be option with creating new character to link his into account wide options/achievements so it will not break immersion of another group of player here

and especially about motifs immersion to some players its important thing as many have their own thoughts about learning motifs on specific character so that is why should be option to link character into accout progres

please be tolerant and understanding as I havnt doing the best threads and I dont know if it could be shorted while staying with reasons why do this way something, maybe someone else with better knowledge about this will create better thread, post than me here

Taleof2Cities

*sigh* Here we go again.

In before dead horse meme ...

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Tandor

No, for the reasons already given in countless other threads.

Sheezabeast

Someone called about a dumpster fire in progress?

TheShadowScout

Here we go again... another one of those "gimme" discussions?

All of those threads only ever talk about how great it would be for people to get everything account wide so they could have it all without spending any extra effort.
And that's why the whole idea is flawed and basically consists of various arguments around a core of "gimme!" - which is annoying to me, seeing as ESO -already- gives more account wide stuff then any other MMORPG I myself ever played, with bank, mail, dyes, outfit styles and the whole frigging champion system!

And none who keep asking for that sort of thing mention how it would be a benefit to ZOS... because it wouldn't!!!

They won't make account wide motivs, because they do sell motivs for those of little patience. (and the outfit system is account wide anyhow when it comes to motiv styles and dyes)
In the same spirit, they won't make acount wide riding because they sell riding lessons.
And they also won't be likely to let people bypass parts of the game like skyshard hunting, skill points, quests, levelling, guild advancement, etc.; at least not for free (I am still waiting for them to offer "skyshard crystals" and "regional exploration maps" for sale for those with more money then patience)
Because why would they give out more things for free then they already do?
What is their gain when people can try new classes while bypassing parts of their game, then quickly get towards feeling dissatisfied about "having nothing to achieve anymore" and leaving for the next new game?

For the roleplayers its of course a matter of principle... In an RPG, even a MMORPG, players interact with the game world through their characters and each and every character is depicted as seperate individual, and they grow and progress through the game as we play, often at diverging paths when you play multiple characters (that is the point of multiple characters after all, play the game once as nefarious sorcerous caster then as holy crusdader knight, then as ruthless rogue or as bloodsucking fiend, etc.; good RPGs even would allow for diverging storylines... play this way on your main, that way on your alt, etc.)

So as a habitual roleplayer, I personally prefer the achievements character based - it lets me see what this or that character has, well, achieved, and what is still left to do. Which skyshards that character missed. Which motiv (parts) that character has yet to learn. Which landmark that character may have forgotten to visit. Which notable public dungeon minibosses that character already took down, and which I still would have to hunt on it. Etc.

And I do say that as someone who would benefit -greatly- from account wide stuff, considering how many alts I have...

But in general... achievement points do nothing but let you check up on how much you have done on that character anyhow. Its everyones personal preference if they want to rack up those, or just let it slide... and yes, most do start achievement hunting when they have done everything else already, but noone really -needs- them.
So they can make their own choice again - if they want to spend the effort to hunti the same achievements on their alts as well, or have their alts do without.
Some achievements give titles, which definitely ought to be character specific... makes no sense if a new character fresh out of the tutorial has any of those titles...
And the dye unlocks from the whole system are account-wide anyhow...

...

That being said...

What -would- be really nice to have would be an account achievement overview page, accessed from the character selection screen. Where you can see which achievement was achieved by which of your characters and when... (and that one could also have a total achievement score collected from ALL your alts!)
Possibly with all the dye unlocks moved to there, and maybe added extra unlocks for multiple completions... like for example, complete mainstory with every class, get an extra outfit unlock (like the companions weapons?), reach emperor in every faction, get an extra mount (emperors chariot?), get a character from each of the alliance races to level 50, get an extra costume (maybe "diplomatic envoy" costume, that changes like the "alliance rider" depending on character?), do this or that with a certain set of your characters, get whatever in ways of extra costumes, outfit unlocks, pets or mount skins...

Edziu

so please give me please these reason then as I dont remember to much and could find it why I cant be happy by account progress in every other game I know but Im stuck to achieve just with nonsense again and again just same achievement for every other character while I dont care for character progression like for sure many other will want more account progression instead repeating everythin again like just loaded new character in skyrim

MasterSpatula

Edziu wrote: »

I cant see any live thread about this

Edziu

@TheShadowScout

thats why I wrote at end most important thing...option to link character for account progression or no for these roleplayers
did you read with understand all my post which I tried best I could explain?
or maybe you just reader start and thats all as you missied point in your post about option to link or not character for this account progression

here we go again with people upset to this without even reading new suggestions to make everyone happy insstead of jsut changing it for other side of players

and I dont really see people wanting to learn same motis again if they learned it for their crafter...I think then you suppose many RP's have enough gold to buy full motifs worth over 500k+ for more than single character as I read what you thik about motifs account wide along with other achievs

and eso gives more account wide stuff than other games? I just LOLed here

I have seen probably in every game I have played accound share:
- bank/chest - well its now normal in online games to have account wide storage to just swap items between many chars
- mail...is it special to have account shared mail
- well in many games jsut styles for your outfit is enough to unlock it via gaining just item in this style and using it to bound to your character/account and here we dont need even specjal recipe/motif to learn this outfit part...
- dyes also I have seen in many account wide, which you can drop from just playing and even sell to market if you dont use it after gaining from loot
- cp system...Im even suprised this is not character bount...in many online games now we have system like CP here and in every game it also account share (not suprises me here)
- and ofc acheivements...I dont remember game which I have played to have achievements locked per character instead accoutn boudn if you can have many alts


and some of my suggestions if your readed was just simply to not broke "immerion" of these who like to get everything from 0 on every new character

now with comments like these I see and up I jsut wait till ZOS make even sets character bound so we need to grind more for jsut single character's gear

Edziu

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

I cant see any live thread about this

with this..ok, maybe I was to laze to look more but also wanted to make with other suggestion whcih could help more to rest who just uhm...have selfish immersion?

while we asking for some thing they always are upsed to this as this will break their immerion while just ignoring current system is breaking immersion to other player who just like this game but well...could be more enjoyable more if zOS refuze to fix many old things

Tandor

Edziu wrote: »

so please give me please these reason then as I dont remember to much and could find it why I cant be happy by account progress in every other game I know but Im stuck to achieve just with nonsense again and again just same achievement for every other character while I dont care for character progression like for sure many other will want more account progression instead repeating everythin again like just loaded new character in skyrim

If you don't want to play additional characters, don't roll them. It's as simple as that - not to mention that according to your spoiler you're not even playing the game any more anyway.

But if you do want to play the game, and you do want to play additional characters then put in the effort and play them. Don't just ask for the whole game to be handed to you on a plate for all your other characters because you've done it once. That's not how MMORPGs work.

Edziu

Tandor wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

so please give me please these reason then as I dont remember to much and could find it why I cant be happy by account progress in every other game I know but Im stuck to achieve just with nonsense again and again just same achievement for every other character while I dont care for character progression like for sure many other will want more account progression instead repeating everythin again like just loaded new character in skyrim

If you don't want to play additional characters, don't roll them. It's as simple as that - not to mention that according to your spoiler you're not even playing the game any more anyway.

But if you do want to play the game, and you do want to play additional characters then put in the effort and play them. Don't just ask for the whole game to be handed to you on a plate for all your other characters because you've done it once. That's not how MMORPGs work.

well spoiler not updated, sorry

but at all I will ask you then
wil have have fun of playing single character nonstop over 4 years?
as for me its nb and what I can do on him? for most of game time I can only be dps here
I would want go for tank and healer, ok I can but only for basic dungs, content

have you see history of all classes over full time live this game? some classes for msot time are really weak weak tanks or healers or DPS, they are the best in their main role or a bit in second as off-role
even just look at now at state of NB how ZOS gutted bith tanking and healin f NB and this is not jsut nb but other classes also got really gutted for specific roles

Tandor

Edziu wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

so please give me please these reason then as I dont remember to much and could find it why I cant be happy by account progress in every other game I know but Im stuck to achieve just with nonsense again and again just same achievement for every other character while I dont care for character progression like for sure many other will want more account progression instead repeating everythin again like just loaded new character in skyrim

If you don't want to play additional characters, don't roll them. It's as simple as that - not to mention that according to your spoiler you're not even playing the game any more anyway.

But if you do want to play the game, and you do want to play additional characters then put in the effort and play them. Don't just ask for the whole game to be handed to you on a plate for all your other characters because you've done it once. That's not how MMORPGs work.

well spoiler not updated, sorry

but at all I will ask you then
wil have have fun of playing single character nonstop over 4 years?
as for me its nb and what I can do on him? for most of game time I can only be dps here
I would want go for tank and healer, ok I can but only for basic dungs, content

have you see history of all classes over full time live this game? some classes for msot time are really weak weak tanks or healers or DPS, they are the best in their main role or a bit in second as off-role
even just look at now at state of NB how ZOS gutted bith tanking and healin f NB and this is not jsut nb but other classes also got really gutted for specific roles

Then play the game with additional characters, personally I have 28 and I don't have a problem with the present arrangements (although I'd much prefer it if everything was character specific including champion points) - they're all different and it's how (MMO)RPGs are played. You'd be retiring a lot more often if you could simply jump straight to endgame each time you created a new character, it would become boring very quickly. Unlike e.g. FPS titles, these games are as much about the journey as the destination, if not more so. If, however, you want to try out different completed builds or classes without putting in any time on developing them then as you play on PC you have the PTS for that.

Edziu

Tandor wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

so please give me please these reason then as I dont remember to much and could find it why I cant be happy by account progress in every other game I know but Im stuck to achieve just with nonsense again and again just same achievement for every other character while I dont care for character progression like for sure many other will want more account progression instead repeating everythin again like just loaded new character in skyrim

If you don't want to play additional characters, don't roll them. It's as simple as that - not to mention that according to your spoiler you're not even playing the game any more anyway.

But if you do want to play the game, and you do want to play additional characters then put in the effort and play them. Don't just ask for the whole game to be handed to you on a plate for all your other characters because you've done it once. That's not how MMORPGs work.

well spoiler not updated, sorry

but at all I will ask you then
wil have have fun of playing single character nonstop over 4 years?
as for me its nb and what I can do on him? for most of game time I can only be dps here
I would want go for tank and healer, ok I can but only for basic dungs, content

have you see history of all classes over full time live this game? some classes for msot time are really weak weak tanks or healers or DPS, they are the best in their main role or a bit in second as off-role
even just look at now at state of NB how ZOS gutted bith tanking and healin f NB and this is not jsut nb but other classes also got really gutted for specific roles

Then play the game with additional characters, personally I have 28 and I don't have a problem with the present arrangements (although I'd much prefer it if everything was character specific including champion points) - they're all different and it's how (MMO)RPGs are played. You'd be retiring a lot more often if you could simply jump straight to endgame each time you created a new character, it would become boring very quickly. Unlike e.g. FPS titles, these games are as much about the journey as the destination, if not more so. If, however, you want to try out different completed builds or classes without putting in any time on developing them then as you play on PC you have the PTS for that.

well so Im trying to play with different chars but you know what I can say?

I feel how my immerion is really hurting while just achievements I need to get every again not matter how hard or how expensive it was

in every other game I player achievs was account bone and I felt beautiful with this
reason why I cant play them to much its that they dont have this climate which I have in just TES series
I can be fine with exploration like earing and leveling everything again on new character but just acheivements which I dont see on my alt which I coudl have done many times on my alt or vice versa..is really hurting my immerion

heaven13

TheShadowScout wrote: »

[snip]...

That being said...

What -would- be really nice to have would be an account achievement overview page, accessed from the character selection screen. Where you can see which achievement was achieved by which of your characters and when... (and that one could also have a total achievement score collected from ALL your alts!)
Possibly with all the dye unlocks moved to there, and maybe added extra unlocks for multiple completions... like for example, complete mainstory with every class, get an extra outfit unlock (like the companions weapons?), reach emperor in every faction, get an extra mount (emperors chariot?), get a character from each of the alliance races to level 50, get an extra costume (maybe "diplomatic envoy" costume, that changes like the "alliance rider" depending on character?), do this or that with a certain set of your characters, get whatever in ways of extra costumes, outfit unlocks, pets or mount skins...

LOVE! I would absolutely be down for this!

heaven13

Edziu wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

so please give me please these reason then as I dont remember to much and could find it why I cant be happy by account progress in every other game I know but Im stuck to achieve just with nonsense again and again just same achievement for every other character while I dont care for character progression like for sure many other will want more account progression instead repeating everythin again like just loaded new character in skyrim

If you don't want to play additional characters, don't roll them. It's as simple as that - not to mention that according to your spoiler you're not even playing the game any more anyway.

But if you do want to play the game, and you do want to play additional characters then put in the effort and play them. Don't just ask for the whole game to be handed to you on a plate for all your other characters because you've done it once. That's not how MMORPGs work.

well spoiler not updated, sorry

but at all I will ask you then
wil have have fun of playing single character nonstop over 4 years?
as for me its nb and what I can do on him? for most of game time I can only be dps here
I would want go for tank and healer, ok I can but only for basic dungs, content

have you see history of all classes over full time live this game? some classes for msot time are really weak weak tanks or healers or DPS, they are the best in their main role or a bit in second as off-role
even just look at now at state of NB how ZOS gutted bith tanking and healin f NB and this is not jsut nb but other classes also got really gutted for specific roles

You don't need the achievements to do the content. The achievements have no function at all.

EDIT: Except related to master crafter and master writs and thus shouldn't be accountwide anyway.

Edziu

heaven13 wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

so please give me please these reason then as I dont remember to much and could find it why I cant be happy by account progress in every other game I know but Im stuck to achieve just with nonsense again and again just same achievement for every other character while I dont care for character progression like for sure many other will want more account progression instead repeating everythin again like just loaded new character in skyrim

If you don't want to play additional characters, don't roll them. It's as simple as that - not to mention that according to your spoiler you're not even playing the game any more anyway.

But if you do want to play the game, and you do want to play additional characters then put in the effort and play them. Don't just ask for the whole game to be handed to you on a plate for all your other characters because you've done it once. That's not how MMORPGs work.

well spoiler not updated, sorry

but at all I will ask you then
wil have have fun of playing single character nonstop over 4 years?
as for me its nb and what I can do on him? for most of game time I can only be dps here
I would want go for tank and healer, ok I can but only for basic dungs, content

have you see history of all classes over full time live this game? some classes for msot time are really weak weak tanks or healers or DPS, they are the best in their main role or a bit in second as off-role
even just look at now at state of NB how ZOS gutted bith tanking and healin f NB and this is not jsut nb but other classes also got really gutted for specific roles

You don't need the achievements to do the content. The achievements have no function at all.

EDIT: Except related to master crafter and master writs and thus shouldn't be accountwide anyway.

well achievs have their function and coudl have more
for me as I play alt which I like after boref main playing nonstop for 4 years...
I just feel really, naked, empty on this alt while I see 5-8k instead of 30k achiev points

and to master writs..well good to know as 1st time I hear about it, before I heared only learned recipes or other motifs have imact of this

VaranisArano

I would be in favor of account wide achievements for ones where it really doesnt matter what character you got it on, like fishing. It doesn't actually matter if I get that Lake Snapper on my MagDK Tank or my Stam Sorc DPS.

But it does matter what character you get it on for a lot of achievements.

heaven13

Edziu wrote: »

heaven13 wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

so please give me please these reason then as I dont remember to much and could find it why I cant be happy by account progress in every other game I know but Im stuck to achieve just with nonsense again and again just same achievement for every other character while I dont care for character progression like for sure many other will want more account progression instead repeating everythin again like just loaded new character in skyrim

If you don't want to play additional characters, don't roll them. It's as simple as that - not to mention that according to your spoiler you're not even playing the game any more anyway.

But if you do want to play the game, and you do want to play additional characters then put in the effort and play them. Don't just ask for the whole game to be handed to you on a plate for all your other characters because you've done it once. That's not how MMORPGs work.

well spoiler not updated, sorry

but at all I will ask you then
wil have have fun of playing single character nonstop over 4 years?
as for me its nb and what I can do on him? for most of game time I can only be dps here
I would want go for tank and healer, ok I can but only for basic dungs, content

have you see history of all classes over full time live this game? some classes for msot time are really weak weak tanks or healers or DPS, they are the best in their main role or a bit in second as off-role
even just look at now at state of NB how ZOS gutted bith tanking and healin f NB and this is not jsut nb but other classes also got really gutted for specific roles

You don't need the achievements to do the content. The achievements have no function at all.

EDIT: Except related to master crafter and master writs and thus shouldn't be accountwide anyway.

well achievs have their function and coudl have more
for me as I play alt which I like after boref main playing nonstop for 4 years...
I just feel really, naked, empty on this alt while I see 5-8k instead of 30k achiev points

and to master writs..well good to know as 1st time I hear about it, before I heared only learned recipes or other motifs have imact of this

The achievements are the way the system keeps track: if you only know a few chapters, it doesn't matter towards writ chances. Only once you know the full motif and thus earn the achievement does it count towards your crafting mastery.

themaddaedra

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Here we go again... another one of those "gimme" discussions?

All of those threads only ever talk about how great it would be for people to get everything account wide so they could have it all without spending any extra effort.
And that's why the whole idea is flawed and basically consists of various arguments around a core of "gimme!" - which is annoying to me, seeing as ESO -already- gives more account wide stuff then any other MMORPG I myself ever played, with bank, mail, dyes, outfit styles and the whole frigging champion system!

And none who keep asking for that sort of thing mention how it would be a benefit to ZOS... because it wouldn't!!!

They won't make account wide motivs, because they do sell motivs for those of little patience. (and the outfit system is account wide anyhow when it comes to motiv styles and dyes)
In the same spirit, they won't make acount wide riding because they sell riding lessons.
And they also won't be likely to let people bypass parts of the game like skyshard hunting, skill points, quests, levelling, guild advancement, etc.; at least not for free (I am still waiting for them to offer "skyshard crystals" and "regional exploration maps" for sale for those with more money then patience)
Because why would they give out more things for free then they already do?
What is their gain when people can try new classes while bypassing parts of their game, then quickly get towards feeling dissatisfied about "having nothing to achieve anymore" and leaving for the next new game?

For the roleplayers its of course a matter of principle... In an RPG, even a MMORPG, players interact with the game world through their characters and each and every character is depicted as seperate individual, and they grow and progress through the game as we play, often at diverging paths when you play multiple characters (that is the point of multiple characters after all, play the game once as nefarious sorcerous caster then as holy crusdader knight, then as ruthless rogue or as bloodsucking fiend, etc.; good RPGs even would allow for diverging storylines... play this way on your main, that way on your alt, etc.)

So as a habitual roleplayer, I personally prefer the achievements character based - it lets me see what this or that character has, well, achieved, and what is still left to do. Which skyshards that character missed. Which motiv (parts) that character has yet to learn. Which landmark that character may have forgotten to visit. Which notable public dungeon minibosses that character already took down, and which I still would have to hunt on it. Etc.

And I do say that as someone who would benefit -greatly- from account wide stuff, considering how many alts I have...

But in general... achievement points do nothing but let you check up on how much you have done on that character anyhow. Its everyones personal preference if they want to rack up those, or just let it slide... and yes, most do start achievement hunting when they have done everything else already, but noone really -needs- them.
So they can make their own choice again - if they want to spend the effort to hunti the same achievements on their alts as well, or have their alts do without.
Some achievements give titles, which definitely ought to be character specific... makes no sense if a new character fresh out of the tutorial has any of those titles...
And the dye unlocks from the whole system are account-wide anyhow...

...

That being said...

What -would- be really nice to have would be an account achievement overview page, accessed from the character selection screen. Where you can see which achievement was achieved by which of your characters and when... (and that one could also have a total achievement score collected from ALL your alts!)
Possibly with all the dye unlocks moved to there, and maybe added extra unlocks for multiple completions... like for example, complete mainstory with every class, get an extra outfit unlock (like the companions weapons?), reach emperor in every faction, get an extra mount (emperors chariot?), get a character from each of the alliance races to level 50, get an extra costume (maybe "diplomatic envoy" costume, that changes like the "alliance rider" depending on character?), do this or that with a certain set of your characters, get whatever in ways of extra costumes, outfit unlocks, pets or mount skins...

10/10 agreed to this. People keep asking for everything to be account-wide to get everything ready at all times. Thus we can't have a simple system where we could see both character and account achievement progressions. There's literally no reasons to not do that. It doesn't harm RP, effort, ZOS income or anything.

I agree that titles etc should remain bound on characters, but would love a system to see overall progress. It's also braindead easy to do. There already is an addon doing that, worst case ZOS would copy-paste it

Edziu

VaranisArano wrote: »

I would be in favor of account wide achievements for ones where it really doesnt matter what character you got it on, like fishing. It doesn't actually matter if I get that Lake Snapper on my MagDK Tank or my Stam Sorc DPS.

But it does matter what character you get it on for a lot of achievements.

yeah atlest it could be good
I have done almost every"neutral"achievement on my main except just finshng, but exploration, 1k+ quests etc
these I will not repeat on character which I choose just for specific actions and also that would be nice to see on alts played more than other but at all wit no passion to grind same things besides guilds etc which we ar to grind at all

Hoolielulu

Edziu wrote: »

here we go again with people upset to this without even reading new suggestions to make everyone happy insstead of jsut changing it for other side of players

It wouldn't make everyone happy. Hence all of the people disagreeing with you.

Merlin13KAGL

So, you have one thread

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/448501/account-wide-achievements

asking for account wide achievements, while you have another thread

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/448509/make-cp-character-bound

asking for CP to be character bound.

You need to make up your mind.

Edziu

Hoolielulu wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

here we go again with people upset to this without even reading new suggestions to make everyone happy insstead of jsut changing it for other side of players

It wouldn't make everyone happy. Hence all of the people disagreeing with you.

how you know all of th people are disagreeing with me? not yet all even half have posted in this thread even those who are realy active on this forum

Edziu

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

So, you have one thread

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/448501/account-wide-achievements

asking for account wide achievements, while you have another thread

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/448509/make-cp-character-bound

asking for CP to be character bound.

You need to make up your mind.

no, I m done it as I just gave up after this my post before and after get this Im on loser side of community if asking for QoL, now Im against everything accounshared
even thinking about character bound dropped sets

Hoolielulu

Edziu wrote: »

Hoolielulu wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

here we go again with people upset to this without even reading new suggestions to make everyone happy insstead of jsut changing it for other side of players

It wouldn't make everyone happy. Hence all of the people disagreeing with you.

how you know all of th people are disagreeing with me? not yet all even half have posted in this thread even those who are realy active on this forum

I think you took my comment too literally. Let me rephrase: The community who resides on this forum and are active will never 100% agree on things like this. It will never happen. Ever. The changes you propose simply won't make everyone happy. It's impossible.

Salvas_Aren

I would be fine with achievements per account, since achievement colors already are.

As long as char titles aren't.

disintegr8

The game is so easy now and people still want it easier. Pretty soon you'll be able to create a character and complete vMA on it in your lunch break.

Some of us did things the hard way and are proud of it; Master Crafter without using research scrolls, maxed out horse training on all characters without without training scrolls, reaching and passing VR/CP cap without XP scrolls, taking our first character to other alliance zones by doing Cadwells Silver and Gold before 1T allowed you to go anywhere.

That was the game we bought and we accepted it and got on with it, instead if whining about it.

Edziu

disintegr8 wrote: »

The game is so easy now and people still want it easier. Pretty soon you'll be able to create a character and complete vMA on it in your lunch break.

Some of us did things the hard way and are proud of it; Master Crafter without using research scrolls, maxed out horse training on all characters without without training scrolls, reaching and passing VR/CP cap without XP scrolls, taking our first character to other alliance zones by doing Cadwells Silver and Gold before 1T allowed you to go anywhere.

That was the game we bought and we accepted it and got on with it, instead if whining about it.

lol?
did you understand what I wrote? as I dont think so
or maybe I have wrote this a to bad with baad aneglish so you cant understand and then sorry for this but as I see your 1st sentence I think you just cant read with understemit if at all you tried to read it to then post stupid comment

but what I wrote in it was you need on new character do same things again, achievs are just achievs....

but then for now I will propose you CP character bound and items sets except crafte to be also character bound, that would be funny as everyone will need to grind things like vMS for every character separately xD

and those achievs would be just like we have on steam ehh....you see you got this once adn thats it...you see you dont need to repeat it agian on your alts if all you want is that you have done this achievement if you dont care for titles etc

idk

Long ago I would have said no to this. However, we have probably much more than twice the achievements as we did before DLCs came into play. BTW, I am not getting into the minutia of what OP has stated, but the overall

With that, I can see an account wide achievement design but titles that go along with that specific achievements are only on the characters that earned the achievements.

Besides, when asked if one has cleared this dungeon or this trial, it does make it much easier to link that HM no death speed run when it is visible across the entire account.

We do not know the reason Zos has kept these character based only. What I have stated is pretty logical. It certainly does not harm anything with the game.

kringled_1

Edziu wrote: »

well achievs have their function and coudl have more
for me as I play alt which I like after boref main playing nonstop for 4 years...
I just feel really, naked, empty on this alt while I see 5-8k instead of 30k achiev points

and to master writs..well good to know as 1st time I hear about it, before I heared only learned recipes or other motifs have imact of this

This compulsion to see a high achievement score? That's all on you. I don't see why significant aspects of the game should be redesigned around your particular (and not particularly rational) desires.

That being said, personally I'd love to have an account-wide overview and ability to compare achievements on multiple characters easily. But even as it is right now, there's no impact on my ability to play my separate characters.