@ZOS -- Indrik-Mount(s) clarification needed ASAP PLS !!!

FrancisCrawford

Jaraal wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

ShadowPaladin wrote: »

Zypheran wrote: »

Not sure I see the emergency here.
Just collect 4 different feathers between now and end of year to collect an Indrik mount.
Everything else is next year's issue. The details of which, may not even be finalised yet.

Well. Two reasons why I am asking all this. 1.) There is a lack of Information regarding the whole matter. 2.) I don't want to waste any Event-Tickets I can get. Not if I need to collect - assuming the process I described is correct - 360 Event-Tickets in total to get *ALL* five (5) Indrik-Mounts .


Best regards
ShadowPaladin

I wouldn't worry about wasting event tickets since it seems they are increasing the amount you earn with each event. The fact that they are doing this is why I am buying 2 of each feather. Worst case scenario I have to earn more for the next event reward they decide to do which is very easy to do.

I would be less concerned about wasting tickets than I would be about wasting time. Trust me, there are other things I'd rather be doing in game than grinding out CWC dailies and competing with the masses for mats, ground spawn quest items, getting enough damage in on bosses to qualify, etc. So, if it's pointless to actually collect 8 feathers by the beginning of the year, then I'd like to know earlier than later so I can plan my playing time accordingly.

I have two characters who get crow quests, and a thief who can zoom through any Shadow Cleft quest in a few minutes. So getting my tickets each day is not a great burden.

jlmurra2

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Zypheran wrote: »

Not sure I see the emergency here.
Just collect 4 different feathers between now and end of year to collect an Indrik mount.
Everything else is next year's issue. The details of which, may not even be finalised yet.

Yes, it's an emergency. If we should buy duplicate indrik feathers, we should do so IMMEDIATELY, because we're hitting the event ticket storage limit today.

Right. That we have people making those sort of comments today shows that this event is not properly explained.

Saturnana

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54935
The article they released some time ago pretty much covers everything you need to know for now.

- earn tickets to buy feathers (10 each)
- get the 4 different feathers from the events listed
- use the feathers to summon the 'basic' indrik
(the same as you would use any other collectible 'parts', such as runeboxes)
- enjoy your new mount!

They haven't released any info on the berries yet because you won't need them for another couple of months.

Edit:

akl77 wrote: »

I don’t understand why the vendor can’t sell all 4 feathers at the moment, I already got 2 feathers and capped at 12 tickets and events still going on, why only selling 2 feathers when we’re supposed to collect 4 feathers.

A new feather will be released each event, so you'll be able to get all 4 at the same time, somewhere down the line. Of course, you'd still need enough tickets to buy all 4 and since - like you mentioned - you can only hold 12 at a time, you can't stock up for 4 feathers. ZOS did this on purpose. It's a leisurely-paced event, not a grind fest. Take your time, don't rush through everything. (And you could always get doubles of the feathers you already have, in case it turns out we can unlock more than one of the indrik's 'evolutions')

FrancisCrawford

theyancey wrote: »

Lake wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

Hi @ZOS_Gina_Bruno, long time no chat. Not since we chatted about my wife also having been at Holoton-Arms back in the day. This is really an important tissue to many of us and time is running out on whether we should spend or hold as we are now at or nearing points cap.

Another factor is the upcoming undaunted fest. I, like many, just do not group. Nevertheless I managed to completely max out the Undaunted skill line just from doing Bolgrul's daily solo quests. Will there be a similar opportunity for the solo player to participate in this fest? Knowing that would help us decide whether to spend or hold. Thanks as always!

You don't need to group. You can solo an easy dungeon like Fungal Grotto.

I can't. I am a half blind geezer with limited hand-eye coordination who is close to rejoining the Hist and I am playing a mega nerfed magden. Sucks but it is what it is.

You still could easily group. Just pick the healing role. The same gear you DPS with would be plenty good enough (as long as one staff is resto). Have BOTH Healing Ward/Ward Ally and Healing Springs available to use when there are sudden health drops. Keep Mutagen up. Have either Trees or the resto ultimate slotted. Slot Elemental Drain, as that's part of your job. Orbs are great if you've leveled Undaunted that high. That's ALL that's needed to be a solid healer, and as warden you'll have more than that. Warhorn? Not needed. Perhaps not even advisable. Combat Prayer? Ditto. Etc.

O_LYKOS

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Lorem123

Gents, it's really all explained ingame: Help -> Tutorials -> Events -> Indrik Mount Evolution. It clearly states there that after evolving a form you need to buy the feathers again to get the Nascent Indrik anew. So go buy duplicates because you'll need them (if you care to get multiple/all evolved forms in the end).

cyberblast

If playing EU&NA one can get 8 feathers on each server, right? So that will give up to 16 tickets for the Sweepstakes?

sedi

I just wish we knew if we all get the same or if we get a choice each time. Surely a choice right?

Acrolas

Lorem123 wrote: »

Gents, it's really all explained ingame: Help -> Tutorials -> Events -> Indrik Mount Evolution. It clearly states there that after evolving a form you need to buy the feathers again to get the Nascent Indrik anew. So go buy duplicates because you'll need them (if you care to get multiple/all evolved forms in the end).

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geonsocal

theyancey wrote: »

Lake wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

Hi @ZOS_Gina_Bruno, long time no chat. Not since we chatted about my wife also having been at Holoton-Arms back in the day. This is really an important tissue to many of us and time is running out on whether we should spend or hold as we are now at or nearing points cap.

Another factor is the upcoming undaunted fest. I, like many, just do not group. Nevertheless I managed to completely max out the Undaunted skill line just from doing Bolgrul's daily solo quests. Will there be a similar opportunity for the solo player to participate in this fest? Knowing that would help us decide whether to spend or hold. Thanks as always!

You don't need to group. You can solo an easy dungeon like Fungal Grotto.

I can't. I am a half blind geezer with limited hand-eye coordination who is close to rejoining the Hist and I am playing a mega nerfed magden. Sucks but it is what it is.

one good thing about experiencing the passage of time - you get to the point where you know and accept yourself...

and, you become totally and gloriously unapologetic about it all...

Edit: of course, standing naked in front of a mirror becomes slightly less inspiring...

Merlin13KAGL

Nothing needs clarified. People need to read.

Granted, they should have idiot-proofed the feather purchases, allowing only one type per account, if for no other reason than to save themselves the trouble of the Great CSR Feather Exchange of 2018.

The timeframe allows more than obtainable numbers for those that miss days, and it's not all available right friggin' now because it's slated to be an end-of-year bonus. It's few months away, and forced pause in what most would otherwise grind is not unreasonable, for a change.

EDIT: It's not always a Dev/company's job to color code everything when some (players) choose to make things more difficult than they need to be.

Jaraal

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Nothing needs clarified. People need to read.

Yes, and we have read this, where ZOS has said we should only be able to buy one feather and don't need extras, which directly contradicts their message to collect 8 feathers for maximum sweepstakes entries. Yet, they can't be bothered to clarify:




If they really didn't want us buying multiples of the same feather, or people accidentally buying the same feather rather than the new one (which has happened many times, much to the chagrin of players who feel they have wasted 10 tickets), then they could have easily hotfixed it so it wasn't possible to get duplicates, but they didn't.



Now, if you look at the official document available at the Impresario, they show one indrik that can be evolved into one of four different variations. However, there is only one indrik standing beside the base Nascent indrik, and that's the Dawnwood Indrik. So it's a pretty safe bet that that will be your only choice at the beginning of next year. Also note that the progression chart shows each of the four variations evolving from the base indrik, rather than having the option to evolve your Dawnwood indrik into the next one over, etc:




And notice that there isn't going to be different feathers in the future, like Sapphire Indrik Feather, etc, because the drawing would have shown four Nascent indriks with 16 different feathers, four each, evolving directly into a single evolution type. It's the same four feathers (Emerald on the left, Gilded next, Onyx after, and finally Opaline.) So we will eventually need four of each type of feather.



Next, will we be able to keep the nascent indrik? No, it will be consumed upon evolution, as stated in the tooltip:





So, here is another fact we can deduce from this. While our evolved Dawnwood indrik is parked in the garage, or being ridden around Tamriel, at future events we will be given the opportunity of evolve one of the other types of indriks, from the Nascent indrik, as shown on the diagram. What does this mean? Yes, it means that we will have TWO indriks at the same time, our Dawnwood indrik, and a second Nascent indrik, which will cost another four feathers to acquire.

Now, once we have both our Dawnwood indrik and our Nascent indrik, we will be given event quests to acquire whatever berries are required for the next evolution. Do you really think ZOS is going to make us destroy our now beloved Dawnwood indrik to participate in the next event to evolve the next indrik? No, it's simply not logical.

So, are we going to need more than four feathers? Yes. We will need at least 16 feathers to obtain all the evolved indrik forms shown on the official diagram. What remains unclear is whether they will have another series of events that would allow us to acquire a fifth Nascent indrik to remain unevolved. Or whether we will be allowed to earn extra feathers (as we are now) to get both the final evolution and another base indrik.

The only thing that really needs to be clarified is why part of ZOS says we don't need extra feathers, while the other part of ZOS says something completely different.
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Ramber

You gotta wait for the 3rd event for the 3rd feather, never buy a feather u already have.. the system is set up for u to stock up on tickets (i have 2 diff feathers now and 10 tickets but ill wait for then next feather to be available before i buy another one).

therift

I read that as we can only have one Indrik Mount per account.

If do, then this deduction falls apart:

So, here is another fact we can deduce from this. While our evolved Dawnwood indrik is parked in the garage, or being ridden around Tamriel, at future events we will be given the opportunity of evolve one of the other types of indriks, from the Nascent indrik, as shown on the diagram. What does this mean? Yes, it means that we will have TWO indriks at the same time, our Dawnwood indrik, and a second Nascent indrik, which will cost another four feathers to acquire.

Which means buying a duplicate Feather is pointless.

I'd rather collect the next items that will be obtained through the Impresario rather than chase different colors of a mount. But that's me.

By the way, kudos for the well-written thoroughly supported post by @Jaraal . I hope you're right that we'll be able to own more than one Indrik Mount for the legions of Indrik Mount fans.

In the absence of Zenimax affirming this is the case, I am skeptical, since the entire belief in multiple Indrik Mounts rests on an ambiguous tooltip from the PTS.

Edit: In-game tutorial states we can own more than one Indrik Mount. Ignore my skepticism.

Jaraal

therift wrote: »

I read that as we can only have one Indrik Mount per account.

So you're saying if we want to participate in the future events to acquire the other three sets of berries and corresponding indrik evolutions, that we must first destroy our current indrik, or else not be allowed to participate? I don't think it's financially shrewd for ZOS to exclude portions of the player base from their events.

therift

Jaraal wrote: »

therift wrote: »

I read that as we can only have one Indrik Mount per account.

So you're saying if we want to participate in the future events to acquire the other three sets of berries and corresponding indrik evolutions, that we must first destroy our current indrik, or else not be allowed to participate? I don't think it's financially shrewd for ZOS to exclude portions of the player base from their events.

I'm saying that the tooltip on the PTS can be read as you can have a Nascent Indrik or an Evolved Indrik. Choose one Evolvex color and that's it. On to the next Impresario Mount/Polymorph/House/Whatever.

I am also saying assuming Zenimax decides to permit multiple Indriks, I won't care, as I will be far more interested trading my Midyear Mayhem 2019 Tickets for whatever is coming next when the 2019 Chapter is released.

Ostacia

I've read this whole thread. Admittedly, not all in one sitting, but, yeah. I'm about to have enough tickets to buy a duplicate feather. Which one should I get a duplicate of, the Emerald, or the Gilded?

RANKK7

Wintergreen wrote: »

I've read this whole thread. Admittedly, not all in one sitting, but, yeah. I'm about to have enough tickets to buy a duplicate feather. Which one should I get a duplicate of, the Emerald, or the Gilded?

This is now answered. Duplicate feathers get you a second Nascent Indrik. --LINK--


It was clearly stated in the help section in game, no idea why they didn't posted that too in the official page we all were checking. Though it's explained pretty clear.

sedi

@Wintergreen Doesn’t matter as you’d need 4 different eventually IF that is how it’s going to work for multiple mounts.

therift

RANKK7 wrote: »

Wintergreen wrote: »

I've read this whole thread. Admittedly, not all in one sitting, but, yeah. I'm about to have enough tickets to buy a duplicate feather. Which one should I get a duplicate of, the Emerald, or the Gilded?

This is now answered. Duplicate feathers get you a second Nascent Indrik. --LINK--


It was clearly stated in the help section in game, no idea why they didn't posted that too in the official page we all were checking. Though it's explained pretty clear.

Exactly. Badly played, ZoS.

Ostacia

RANKK7 wrote: »

Wintergreen wrote: »

I've read this whole thread. Admittedly, not all in one sitting, but, yeah. I'm about to have enough tickets to buy a duplicate feather. Which one should I get a duplicate of, the Emerald, or the Gilded?

This is now answered. Duplicate feathers get you a second Nascent Indrik. --LINK--


It was clearly stated in the help section in game, no idea why they didn't posted that too in the official page we all were checking. Though it's explained pretty clear.

Thanks, Rank. Apparently my research skills could use some work. Threads and threads and pages and pages to sift and read through. Eh. Not fun.

(They should put in a Nascent Feather, so instead of buying duplicates of Emeralds and Gildeds, we could just buy another Nascent for the sake of clarity if nothing else.)

Elsonso

Jaraal wrote: »

The only thing that really needs to be clarified is why part of ZOS says we don't need extra feathers, while the other part of ZOS says something completely different.

Really? Personally, I could not care less about the details of why Customer Support is not up to speed on Indrik mounts. We apparently have our answer to the emergency that befell the forum. The rest is for ZOS to resolve.

Zypheran

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Zypheran wrote: »

Not sure I see the emergency here.
Just collect 4 different feathers between now and end of year to collect an Indrik mount.
Everything else is next year's issue. The details of which, may not even be finalised yet.

Yes, it's an emergency. If we should buy duplicate indrik feathers, we should do so IMMEDIATELY, because we're hitting the event ticket storage limit today.

Sorry but I think you and I have a very different understanding of an 'emergency'!

Jaraal

Wintergreen wrote: »

I've read this whole thread. Admittedly, not all in one sitting, but, yeah. I'm about to have enough tickets to buy a duplicate feather. Which one should I get a duplicate of, the Emerald, or the Gilded?

The facts, as we know them:


1) Combining 1 Emerald, 1 Gilded, 1 Onxy, and 1 Opaline feather creates a Nascent Indrik.

2) You will need 1 Nascent Indrik and 4 Dawnwood berries to evolve a Dawnwood Indrik (the one standing next to the Nascent at The Impresario camp).

3) Your Nascent Indrik will be consumed upon evolution, you do not get it back.

4) We will need a new Nascent Indrik (1 Emerald, 1 Gilded, 1 Onxy, and 1 Opaline feather), and 4 of a different berry to evolve each of the other three Indrik variations depicted on the official flyer available at The Impresario.


So, to answer your question, it doesn't matter really, as you will need one of each.

Jaraal

lordrichter wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

The only thing that really needs to be clarified is why part of ZOS says we don't need extra feathers, while the other part of ZOS says something completely different.

Really? Personally, I could not care less about the details of why Customer Support is not up to speed on Indrik mounts. We apparently have our answer to the emergency that befell the forum. The rest is for ZOS to resolve.

It's not likely that customer service reps make stuff up on the fly. If he/she didn't already know the answer given (No, duplicate feathers have no use, destroy it), then he/she had to ask somebody who knew the answer. It seems odd that the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing at a large corporation like Zenimax. However, with the well documented disconnect between forum liasions and we, the customers..... I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise that such disconnects also exist among their employees.

therift

lordrichter wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

The only thing that really needs to be clarified is why part of ZOS says we don't need extra feathers, while the other part of ZOS says something completely different.

Really? Personally, I could not care less about the details of why Customer Support is not up to speed on Indrik mounts. We apparently have our answer to the emergency that befell the forum. The rest is for ZOS to resolve.

I understand that you might not be personally concerned, but it is an issue.

I have four guildies who have destroyed their second Emerald Feathers by following written instructions from Customer Service.

Now I'm trying to contact them to let them know the correct facts, not Customer Service's incorrect facts.

[Strong oaths ommitted]

Sylvermynx

therift wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

The only thing that really needs to be clarified is why part of ZOS says we don't need extra feathers, while the other part of ZOS says something completely different.

Really? Personally, I could not care less about the details of why Customer Support is not up to speed on Indrik mounts. We apparently have our answer to the emergency that befell the forum. The rest is for ZOS to resolve.

I understand that you might not be personally concerned, but it is an issue.

I have four guildies who have destroyed their second Emerald Feathers by following written instructions from Customer Service.

Now I'm trying to contact them to let them know the correct facts, not Customer Service's incorrect facts.

[Strong oaths ommitted]

They should probably put in tickets to either get the feathers restored or the event tickets they spent refunded.

therift

Sylvermynx wrote: »

therift wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

The only thing that really needs to be clarified is why part of ZOS says we don't need extra feathers, while the other part of ZOS says something completely different.

Really? Personally, I could not care less about the details of why Customer Support is not up to speed on Indrik mounts. We apparently have our answer to the emergency that befell the forum. The rest is for ZOS to resolve.

I understand that you might not be personally concerned, but it is an issue.

I have four guildies who have destroyed their second Emerald Feathers by following written instructions from Customer Service.

Now I'm trying to contact them to let them know the correct facts, not Customer Service's incorrect facts.

[Strong oaths ommitted]

They should probably put in tickets to either get the feathers restored or the event tickets they spent refunded.

The tickets were refunded, but now they may be missing a chance to get a head start on a second Evolved Indrik.

Jaraal

therift wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

therift wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

The only thing that really needs to be clarified is why part of ZOS says we don't need extra feathers, while the other part of ZOS says something completely different.

Really? Personally, I could not care less about the details of why Customer Support is not up to speed on Indrik mounts. We apparently have our answer to the emergency that befell the forum. The rest is for ZOS to resolve.

I understand that you might not be personally concerned, but it is an issue.

I have four guildies who have destroyed their second Emerald Feathers by following written instructions from Customer Service.

Now I'm trying to contact them to let them know the correct facts, not Customer Service's incorrect facts.

[Strong oaths ommitted]

They should probably put in tickets to either get the feathers restored or the event tickets they spent refunded.

The tickets were refunded, but now they may be missing a chance to get a head start on a second Evolved Indrik.

Not to mention they are losing out on a chance for extra sweepstakes entries. The official release said players who acquire 8 indrik feathers before January 2nd would get 8 extra entries into the #ourelderscrolls sweepstakes. So now customer service is discouraging people from earning extra entries? Something sounds very fishy to me.

DarcyMardin

There must be something wrong with me, because I can’t seem to work up any anxiety about how many feathers I have. As for sweepstakes entries, the chances of winning anything are so minuscule that my brain refuses to dwell upon them.