Do you think achievement points should be displayable for other players to see?

What_In_Tarnation

other *please explain*

As long as you can toggle it on/off and can choose if you wanna see other players' achievement points, then I'm fine with it.

Personally don't really that care if you show it, but I'll just turn it off though.

Rygonix

No

It's my personal scoring system to see how much of the game and its challenges I've completed. If I want a platform to show off my gaming achievements I always have PSN or Xbox Live to fall back on.

Taleof2Cities

other *please explain*

I'm pretty indifferent ... I'd be OK either way.

Some players have done a remarkable job accumulating achievement points. Why not let them show off that hard work?

My crafting main has somewhere north of 16,000 achievement points. That's only half of the total of some of those achievement hunter players. Boggles the mind.

Xarc

No

It is enough competitive for me. I like how eso is, I play a mmo to have fun, immersion and community, and I play other competitive games for competition/ranking/scores. Eso is a mmo.

WakeYourGhost

Strike_Maximus wrote: »

only issue i would see is other players belittling others for there lack of achievement points or players leaving pug groups because someone does not have as many achievement points

PvEers don't need another excuse to insult, judge, and belittle people for their lack of God-like Perfection.

Synthwavius

No. I think that Achievement Points should be spendable instead. I know that we have Achievement Furnisher but having some use for those points would be nice.

Strike_Maximus

Yes

WakeYourGhost wrote: »

Strike_Maximus wrote: »

only issue i would see is other players belittling others for there lack of achievement points or players leaving pug groups because someone does not have as many achievement points

PvEers don't need another excuse to insult, judge, and belittle people for their lack of God-like Perfection.

And PvPers don't insult, judge, and belittle people for their lack of God-like Perfection in PVP?
argument can really go both ways.

idk

No

Aliyavana wrote: »

therift wrote: »

Consoles have this feature and no one cares.

Titles such as 'Flawless Conqueror' say a lot more about skill and experience than any point system could convey.

to have a title that shows you have 30k achievement points would show you are a well rounded player

But it does not show a player is skilled. While CP actually does have a factor and is worthy to be displayed since it is our character level, it does not mean the player is any good. Achievement points mean even less.

I do not think Zos needs to clutter up our display with what is essentially meaningless information and a title for 30k AP is not very meaningful.

Mudcrabber

other *please explain*

They could add a "link in chat" to each progress bar on the summary page, like they have for specific achievements.

Dojohoda

other *please explain*

I don't know, but if they did perhaps it could be something similar to how alliance rank is displayed.

Linaleah

other *please explain*

optional maybe. but it really would require accountwide achievement tracking of some sort. some of us play alts, you know.

but then again... we already have server wide acess to dyes and skins, so....

Cously

Yes

Leaderboard with rewards as well.

D0PAMINE

other *please explain*

I don't care about how many achievement points someone has, and if they're wondering how many I have, they can ask I guess.

craftycarper73

No

Why? what would be the point?

Would it be so you can feel more adequate, as your lacking elsewhere? Be assured, if you had the most achievment points in the game, across all 3 platforms.













You would still be called peewee in real life.

Joxer61

Nope...will cause kicks just like it did/does in GW2. People judge to harshly off numbers.....

Elwendryll

Yes

Achievement rewards and titles!
Frankly, I feel like judging someone's ability based off the achievements points they have wouldn't be less accurate than judging by the CP level.

Joxer61

Elwendryll wrote: »

Achievement rewards and titles!
Frankly, I feel like judging someone's ability based off the achievements points they have wouldn't be less accurate than judging by the CP level.

yup, and it shouldn't happen, period. Shouldn't judge people based off numbers in a game. I have a tad over 300cps, but those are all from 3 1/2 yrs ago when I left the game. My skill level when I returned was crap as the game was somewhat "new" to me and I had to adjust. Now that its slowly coming back am I going to be kicked due to low cps, which means f all to be honest? Yes, I am, as it has happened. But that's fine because I agree with the post by @craftycarper73 that all your uberness in this or any other game isn't going to change the fact that you are a "peewee" in real life!! LOL, love that.

IndorilArwynLlethran

No

Since achievements are not account-wide, showing them would be poinless.

Royaji

No

I do not need to see some (mostly) irrelevant 5-digit number next to every nameplate. It just looks bad.

Merlin13KAGL

other *please explain*

Why/Who cares?

only issue i would see is other players belittling others for there lack of achievement points or players leaving pug groups because someone does not have as many achievement points

That would be monumentally foolish for even more reasons than judging based on CP's.

If you're going to kick someone because they didn't do enough "deliver loaves of bread to orphans" quests, you're too much an idiot to deserve to be a group in the first place.

AP's as a number offer absolutely nothing about the player, other than enjoyment, or lack thereof, from acquiring mostly meaningless badges.

IDC what you do/don't like to do in game. I care how you play. Cheevos do not reflect that either way.

Wizhunter

No

We already have titles and cp showing, I think someone that's got a pretty high cp would mostly have a high Achievement points as well.

Wiz

pod88kk

other *please explain*

I think it would lead to a lot of elitism just like the way dps scores & skins already do.

Fischblut

No

Nope...will cause kicks just like it did/does in GW2. People judge to harshly off numbers.....

Agree. We already have many people who judge by number of CPs without any logic behind it. Display of number of achievement points will cause even less logical judgment

Frankly, I feel like judging someone's ability based off the achievements points they have wouldn't be less accurate than judging by the CP level.

Looks like you don't often pug dungeons and trials, and don't know how leveling often goes nowadays. Dolmens, Skyreach, zombie grind in some zones, selling accounts to clueless people... Then you see some max CP clueless dds LFG for at the very least 4 keys

Or some high CP guy enters public dungeon and when you're thinking "damn, now we have to fight for mobs and precious loot", he goes into pack of mobs, places down Blood Altar and starts to Uppercut a single mob while other mobs tear the player apart. But I think he felt very effective playing like this in the middle of the dolmen!

Or when high CP guy enters delve in Wrothgar, uses only two skills - Clannfear and Uppercut, and dies to Dwemer spheres cause he doesn't block, dodge and doesn't even know his Clannfear can be used for healing.

Or when CP capped guy comes to dolmen which I was doing solo, and instead of help he just gives me more mobs to deal with and runs around light attacking them with bow and dying few times... No abilities, no Vigor, I don't even know which class his character was Special class born in dolmen zerg

Or when you end up in vet CoH 1 with 3 high CP wardens, and spend most of your time resurrecting them all cause they apparently have just bought their accounts and don't know basic mechanics - even how to resurrect their allies.

Just two days ago I was in Fang Lair with group from finder. "Finally, high CP group! Very nice." - said the tank. I was silent, cause I know that it doesn't mean anything and he shouldn't be so eager to judge I usually don't even look at group members; I might only look at their amount of health cause dd with 28k health and tank with 18k health prepares me for adventures
...Anyway, the first one who ruined our no death was CP capped magblade with Flawless conqueror title, killed by a wolf on second boss. It was only a beginning! On the last boss he didn't want to even try dodging heavy attacks of Bone Colossi (even after we pointed it out to him) - he was dying to them each time they spawned (if they initially aggroed on him and not on me), was just using shield and running away from them, leading them away from my Endless Hail and Caltrops... I loved the particular moment when magblade run away with Colossus on the other side of room (I'm melee, I had to choose if I want to chase them, or to destroy crystal first - of course I chose crystal to prevent more Colossi), then Colossus started charging his heavy attack and the player did nothing but stand, stare and use his shield... Looks like numbers of his death recaps doesn't teach him anything, or he hopes that his shield is somewhere around 100k!
I can't just leave Colossus alive while resurrecting other dd, this will lead to much more troubles; so I then had to chase Colossus if he decided to go for healer or tank after he killed other dd), at the same time I also had to take care of green bugs which chased poor tank, and only then resurrect the other dd. So when I see crystal is up and Colossi starts to chase other dd, I already know I'm in for a resurrection duty! Hilarious and sad, but there were times I almost decided to slot Inner Fire just to taunt Colossi so other dd wouldn't get their aggro and won't die stupidly But it took me some time to think which skill I can replace by this, and in that time other dd said he has to go to bed.

Well, we both dds and healer wanted to sleep already (it was almost 2 A.M. in my zone, and I had to get up for work at 6 A.M ), and after stating that in chat I finally left cause the tank still refused to complete it at least in non-HM for 1 key and helm
My stamsorc is Flawless Conqueror too, and I still know he can die in dungeons/trials while getting used to mechanics, but I would not go into vet DLC dungeon without at least watching a video and reading some guide to have at least basic idea. The magblade didn't ask any questions and still looked like he was unfamiliar with such crucial mechanics. But I always try look for positive sides even in such sad runs, and this run also had them - it was amazing practice for me, so I finally stopped being afraid of ghost army at the execute phase when we have to carefully watch for breach in their line Those ghosts were actually the most harmless thing there and I was somehow naturally passing them without even looking at them - too busy



""Sigh. Why did everyone die?"

Only once I died to them when they spawned at me right at the wall The only really bad thing is I was too angry after the run, and couldn't fall asleep for long time cause of it

So high CP means nothing, let alone the number of achievement points. No point in showing them, I actually see no point in showing CPs too. There needs to be disclaimer "The high amount of CPs doesn't always mean high level of skill, manage your expectations accordingly!"

Elwendryll

Yes

Fischblut wrote: »

Frankly, I feel like judging someone's ability based off the achievements points they have wouldn't be less accurate than judging by the CP level.

Looks like you don't often pug dungeons and trials, and don't know how leveling often goes nowadays. Dolmens, Skyreach, zombie grind in some zones, selling accounts to clueless people... Then you see some max CP clueless dds LFG for at the very least 4 keys

Looks like my post went over your head. Judging by numbers is always pointless, but here, in this case, achievement points, at least, show some sort of dedication. Usually someone mindlessly grinding (the kind of max cp players spamming bow light attacks), will not gather much skill points.

What I meant to say is that achievement points are not less relevant than CP in my opinion. And why not display achievement points if we display CP? We could as well not display anything at all, everyone's scaled anyway...
I'd be for not displaying anything at all. But if I had to choose one, I'd prefer achievement points over CP, even if it's character bound.

Edit: You know what? If it was me in charge CP could be entirely replaced by the account-wide sum of your achievement points (not counting any achievement more than once). Or CP levels would be achievement rewards. So, if you want to be high level, you can't just farm zombies, you would have to clear vDSA, all the worldbosses of a zone, fish all the rare fishes of a zone, and finish all the town quests of cyrodiil. *Evil laughters*

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

No

All I hear is:

Neyane

Yes

Currently I don't care about achievements because only I know about it. I would like an option to show somewhere what I have achieved. Titles, collection trophies.... anything really. I'd love to know what others have achieved. One of my favourite things to do is look at everyone's titles and see what awesome content they've done.

Knootewoot

other *please explain*

No, because i don't care about it. I don't care about my achievements and certainly not about yours. It doesn't mean anything. So you are a mastercrafter. Thus you clicked the left mouse button a few times more then me. Whoopteedoo.

Olupajmibanan

other *please explain*

First of all, we need account-wide achievements. I have many characters and would like to play them all, but there is a curse that makes me play only one and that curse is achievements.

Then we can think of displaying achievements to others.

Bouldercleave

other *please explain*

Had to vote other because frankly, I simply wouldn't care.

I honestly rarely notice CP points, titles, etc when I see other players.

Sadly I usually judge them on how well they dye their outfit and if they are jumping around like a lunatic spamming caltrops or endless hail in the crafting areas or around wayshrines.



Sucks being old... NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!

Mintaka5

other *please explain*

IMO, achievemens should all reward collectibles or rare items. Like 75% of the achievements are just bragging rights, and honestly outside of screenshot of your game, who cares? It would be nice to complete every achievement and have a unique item to show for it.

Player 1: "Hey where'd you get that set item, or that cool looking hat?"
Player 2: "I got it as a reward for the blah blah achievement."

Dyes are okay. Titles are meh. But when I get a collectible or if I could get a rare furnishing pattern that never drops, or a piece of gear that I cannot attain because of game difficulty, I'd play this game FOREVER!