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How do patch notes make you feel about upcoming updates?
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craftycarper73✭✭✭✭✭They killed the hype for murkmire, with all the destructive nerf's so no hype here, just disapointment.Born, Bred & Made in Manchester UK, RIP 22 Angels. 22/05/2017
PC-EU
The Place by Tony Walsh Please ReadThis is the place in the North West of England
It’s ace, it’s the best and the songs that we sing
From the stands, from our bands set the whole planet shaking
Our inventions are legends! There’s nowt we can’t make and
So we make brilliant music. We make brilliant bands
We make goals that make souls leap from seats in the stands
And we make things from steel and we make things from cotton
And we make people laugh, take the mick summat rotten
And we make you at home and we make you feel welcome
And we make summat happen, we can’t seem to help it
And if you’re looking for history then yes, we’ve a wealth
But the Manchester way is to make it yourself
And make us a record, a new number one
And make us a brew while you’re up, love. Go on!
And make us feel proud that you’re winning the league
And make us sing louder and make us believe it
that this is the place that has helped shape the world
And that this the place where a Manchester girl
Name of Emmeline Pankhurst from the streets of Moss Side
Led a Suffragette City with sisterhood pride
And this is the place with appliance of science
We’re on it, atomic, we strut with defiance
In the face of a challenge we always stand tall
Mancunians in union delivered it all
Such as housing and libraries, and health, education
And unions and co-ops, the first railway station
So we’re sorry! Bear with us! We invented commuters!
But we hope you forgive us – we invented computers!
And this is the place Henry Royce strolled with Rolls
And we’ve rocked and we’ve rolled with our own Northern Soul
And so this is the place to do business, then dance
Where go-getters and goal setters know they’ve a chance
And this is the place where we first played as kids
And me Mam lived and died here, she loved it she did
And this is the place where our folks came to work
Where they struggled in puddles, they hurt in the dirt
And they built us a city. They built us these towns
And they coughed on the cobbles to the deafening sound
Of the steaming machines and the screaming of slaves
They were scheming for greatness, they dreamed to their graves
And they left us a spirit, they left us a vibe
The Mancunian Way to survive and to thrive
And to work and to build, to connect and create and
Greater Manchester’s greatness is keeping it great
And so this is the place now we’ve kids of our own
Some are born here, some drawn here but we all call it home
And they’ve covered the cobbles, but they’ll never defeat
All the dreamers and schemers who still teem through these streets
Because this is a place that has been through some hard times
Oppressions, recessions, depressions and dark times
But we keep fighting back with Greater Manchester spirit
Northern grit, northern wit in Greater Manchester’s lyrics
And there’s hard times again in these streets of our city
But we won’t take defeat and we don’t want your pity
Because this a place where we stand strong together
With a smile on our face, Mancunians Forever
And we’ve got this* as the place where a team with a dream (*Forever Manchester)
Can get funding and something to help with their scheme
Because this is the place that understands your grand plans
We don’t do No Can Do, we just stress Yes We Can!
Forever Manchester’s a charity for people round ‘ere
You can fundraise, donate. You can be a volunteer
You can live local, give local. We can honestly say
We do charity differently, that Mancunian Way
And we fund local kids, and we fund local teams
We support local dreamers to work for their dreams
We support local groups and the great work they do
So can you …help us help… local people like you?
Because this is the place in our hearts, in our homes
Because this is the place that’s a part of our bones
‘Cos Greater Manchester gives us such strength from the fact
That this is the place. We should give something back.
Always remember. Never forget. Forever Manchester.39 -
Nope. They're trashing the game, as far as I'm concerned. After two years, I've found an upcoming expansion I just don't care about. I've dropped my sub from six month to monthly to see how this all shakes out, but right now I'm not confident.20 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nerfmire feels worse then Morrowind disaster. They deleted Sorcs from PvP. They took away movement speed from stam classes.
I wish they wouldnt put this update live so i can still enjoy my speed pots and my magsorc
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Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What would you think if combat changes didn't come together with new content but instead say a different time?5 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As a PvPer mainly i go straight to Cyro changes & balance. And i get angry as id like to see more Dev notes. More detail on why they are changing each element.
If its from feedback or data or what.
Then i re read the whole lot. Generally it feels the pace of change is too fast on things that alter playstyle & build. Yet the rate of change on bug fix, broken skills or OP skills like cage takes 3 months
Id like to feel the class reps are listened to. Rather than A,B,C fed back and they change D which breaks E & F lolXbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach3 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭In general, patch notes are exciting.
These notes are just depressing. Showcasing just how out of touch the devs are with the players. The last time we got a patch this bad was Morrowind.
Morrowind was going to be an exciting thing. New class, nostalgia, everything. And then the combat changes killed it completely. The days before Morrowind, there was a frantic rush to get people cleared in content because people knew that vMoL HM would be out of reach post-Morrowind (and for many players, it was out of reach until power creep from subsequent patches undid some of the damage from Morrowind).
The same thing's going on here. There are groups that are pushing to get things like vCR HM clears or achievements like IR, GH, or TTT before the combat changes--which are wildly out of tune with the reality of much of ZOS's latest endgame content--take effect and make such thing considerably harder.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information23 -
craftycarper73✭✭✭✭✭What would you think if combat changes didn't come together with new content but instead say a different time?
Being a class Rep i can clearly see your fishing, hopefully its not as bland as the fishing in game.
All i can add is something needs to be done, about the huge change's they make while dropping a new DLC, with a new arena, and all the one shot mechanics, that lets face it, if your not in the top 5% of players, your not likely to finish it on vet.
I also need to add, that i was very willing to change from PS4 to PC, built a new rig, was ready to go and buy it, then the patch notes, which im glad i read before hitting the purchase button, it stopped me buying the game on PC and made me unsub on PS4.
Destructive change's destroy player bases.Edited by craftycarper73 on October 5, 2018 7:43AMBorn, Bred & Made in Manchester UK, RIP 22 Angels. 22/05/2017
PC-EU
The Place by Tony Walsh Please ReadThis is the place in the North West of England
It’s ace, it’s the best and the songs that we sing
From the stands, from our bands set the whole planet shaking
Our inventions are legends! There’s nowt we can’t make and
So we make brilliant music. We make brilliant bands
We make goals that make souls leap from seats in the stands
And we make things from steel and we make things from cotton
And we make people laugh, take the mick summat rotten
And we make you at home and we make you feel welcome
And we make summat happen, we can’t seem to help it
And if you’re looking for history then yes, we’ve a wealth
But the Manchester way is to make it yourself
And make us a record, a new number one
And make us a brew while you’re up, love. Go on!
And make us feel proud that you’re winning the league
And make us sing louder and make us believe it
that this is the place that has helped shape the world
And that this the place where a Manchester girl
Name of Emmeline Pankhurst from the streets of Moss Side
Led a Suffragette City with sisterhood pride
And this is the place with appliance of science
We’re on it, atomic, we strut with defiance
In the face of a challenge we always stand tall
Mancunians in union delivered it all
Such as housing and libraries, and health, education
And unions and co-ops, the first railway station
So we’re sorry! Bear with us! We invented commuters!
But we hope you forgive us – we invented computers!
And this is the place Henry Royce strolled with Rolls
And we’ve rocked and we’ve rolled with our own Northern Soul
And so this is the place to do business, then dance
Where go-getters and goal setters know they’ve a chance
And this is the place where we first played as kids
And me Mam lived and died here, she loved it she did
And this is the place where our folks came to work
Where they struggled in puddles, they hurt in the dirt
And they built us a city. They built us these towns
And they coughed on the cobbles to the deafening sound
Of the steaming machines and the screaming of slaves
They were scheming for greatness, they dreamed to their graves
And they left us a spirit, they left us a vibe
The Mancunian Way to survive and to thrive
And to work and to build, to connect and create and
Greater Manchester’s greatness is keeping it great
And so this is the place now we’ve kids of our own
Some are born here, some drawn here but we all call it home
And they’ve covered the cobbles, but they’ll never defeat
All the dreamers and schemers who still teem through these streets
Because this is a place that has been through some hard times
Oppressions, recessions, depressions and dark times
But we keep fighting back with Greater Manchester spirit
Northern grit, northern wit in Greater Manchester’s lyrics
And there’s hard times again in these streets of our city
But we won’t take defeat and we don’t want your pity
Because this a place where we stand strong together
With a smile on our face, Mancunians Forever
And we’ve got this* as the place where a team with a dream (*Forever Manchester)
Can get funding and something to help with their scheme
Because this is the place that understands your grand plans
We don’t do No Can Do, we just stress Yes We Can!
Forever Manchester’s a charity for people round ‘ere
You can fundraise, donate. You can be a volunteer
You can live local, give local. We can honestly say
We do charity differently, that Mancunian Way
And we fund local kids, and we fund local teams
We support local dreamers to work for their dreams
We support local groups and the great work they do
So can you …help us help… local people like you?
Because this is the place in our hearts, in our homes
Because this is the place that’s a part of our bones
‘Cos Greater Manchester gives us such strength from the fact
That this is the place. We should give something back.
Always remember. Never forget. Forever Manchester.9 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭craftycarper73 wrote: »What would you think if combat changes didn't come together with new content but instead say a different time?
Being a class Rep i can clearly see your fishing, hopefully its not as bland as the fishing in game.
All i can add is something needs to be done, about the huge change's they make while dropping a new DLC, with a new arena, and all the one shot mechanics, that lets face it, if your not in the top 5% of players, your not likely to finish it on vet.
My apologies, I simply seek understanding of the concerns people show me. I believe it is best to ask questions and get different perspectives to better otherside collective human mind so not to be biased by my own perspection.2 -
Elwendryll✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm excited. My DPS got a buff on the PTS (even with 200 ping).PC - EU - France - AD
Main character: Qojikrin - Khajiit Sorcerer Tank/Stamina DD - since March 25, 2015.
Guildmaster of Oriflamme: Focus on 4 player endgame content.
Member of Brave Cat Trade, Panda Division and Toadhuggers.
All 4-man trifectas - TTT, IR, GH2 -
kind_hero✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Disappointed... they are nerfing classes and abilities to balance PvP which is an important part of the game, but still just one part. They should separate the skills PvE-PvP. They are taking out the fun from playing certain classes, having certain sets, gimmicks and so on. Classes lose their unique feel, soon it won't matter what class you play, it will feel all the same, which is very very wrong for a game that has RPG at its core.
Also, sets won't have a distinctive feel, it is just how much resource/regen/bonus stat they give.. going this way you can remove the concept of sets all together and just add a combination of res/regen/bonus on your CP panel or whatever.. so it is sad. I start to care less and less about pvp because of these changes, probably will move on to something elseEdited by kind_hero on October 5, 2018 7:56AM[PC/EU] Tamriel Hero, Stormproof, Grand Master Crafter5 -
lucky_dutch✭✭✭✭I am farming my heavy armor sets now because light armor is no longer viable in PvP.3
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Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Tasear
It’s a mixture of disbelief and resignation at the moment. Hyped? Not one bit. Actually I’m trying to close out my Sorc at AR 41 before Murkmire hits. I don’t see me playing it a lot in the next months thanks to the “balance” changes with no compensation.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.15 -
Cinbri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Best update since Morrowind (if bg q will be actually working for high mmr chars).
And legions of forum warriors addicted to their broken stuff crying that it end of the world won't change it.3 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Best update since Morrowind (if bg q will be actually working for high mmr chars).
And legions of forum warriors addicted to their broken stuff crying that it end of the world won't change it.
Yes it’s an awesome update if you happen to play a stam char.
Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.9 -
Soris✭✭✭✭✭
✭They are at least listening playerbase now. Remember how it was in older patches..Big improvement.Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]2 -
lucky_dutch✭✭✭✭
Behave. Your assumed skill superiority just makes you come across like a little prick.
Also, use of over-performing sets or abilities doesn't make you a "good player".5 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭lucky_dutch wrote: »
Behave. Your assumed skill superiority just makes you come across like a little prick.
Also, use of over-performing sets or abilities doesn't make you a "good player".
Edited by Gnozo on October 5, 2018 8:52AM10 -
Cinbri✭✭✭✭✭
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And my answer is obvious.
Same goes for a lot of people who liked game, but problem is that those people decide to go to most toxic place of ESO known as "forum", and reading it slowly killing their hype. That's why alot of people who play game for long stopped even coming in such place. Read patchnotes and get out from site as fast as possible is most safe action if you wana your mood to not be killed.Edited by Cinbri on October 5, 2018 9:11AM0 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
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And my answer is obvious.
Same goes for a lot of people who liked game, but problem is that those people decide to go to most toxic place of ESO known as "forum", and reading it slowly killing their hype. That's why alot of people who play game for long stopped even coming in such place.
There's good and bad in each location.0 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Honestly, I just don't care anymore. Expecting all patches or updates to be positive is just an exercise in futility. In the end, we all pay."If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."2 -
kitty79✭✭✭✭4.2
Scatter Shot: Increased the range of this ability and its morphs to 28 meters from 10 meters.
Razor Shot :
2: Scatter Shot applies a bleed after a delay that deals 40% of your initial attack every 2 seconds for 4 seconds. The duration increases if you are further away from your target to a maximum of 12 seconds.
4.2.2
Razor Shot: This item set now deals 50% of Scattershot’s damage as poison instead of 40% as a bleed.
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snipe forever ^_^
-maîtresse de pêche
-héroïne de Tamriel
-sauveuse de Nirn
-grande maîtresse artisane2 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I guess getting back to your point @Tasear , if the balance notes and the patch notes were seperate i'd say I enjoy the patch notes - i.e. the last two there have been loads of PVP change. Thats kinda cool!
And i'd love to be looking forward to the patch to get into PVP and see these bridges / milegates in action etc etc - however i'm not. I'm sat working out if to persevere with my main (very attached) and that even if I can make it work if it will be fun. As after all thats why I play.
if the two things were seperate yes i'd be hyped reading the notes.Xbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach2 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Every patch of this pts patch had destroyed my motivation to play the game more and more.
Patch 4.2 : oh they're completely destroyed light armour and shields in pvp and even shafted medium builds? They're so out of touch with their game its unreal. Oh looks there a new OP broken Xv1 set again, got to sell that dlc.
4.2.1: Not much really changed, they attempted to try and act of the disastrous first patch, not much changed though, Xv1 set got a very small a minor nerf when it pretty much needs redesigning completely.
4.2.2: Oh they're made it worse again. Lets have everyone run around as snails and get dog piled by zergs becase we can't go away now. Oh? They're not nerfed ball groups? Cool. Again with the whole 'they clearly don't know their own game'.
So yeah, patch notes usually make or break a patch for me.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...9 -
White wabbit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭With all these nerfs I'm going to take a break on this patch and hope for the best on the next patch3 -
StamWhipCultist✭✭✭✭✭I want to see many things in ESO. I hope some of changes we will get in Murkmire will be the step in the right direction. Shield changes in latest PTS iteration seem interesting for me and I will for sure play more magicka based characters than I did prior to Murkmire, if they do not revert them more to cater ppl unwilling to adapt. Changes to movement might make PvP bit more slow paced for solo or small scale groups, I am yet to decide will I participate in any PvP outside BGs. I am glad that some of the changes will make healers more needed for dungeon content than now. Also, due to changes to roll dodge timing will make it a more interesting part of the game, forcing players to use it in pin point accuracy to be effective. There are changes I dislike and I gave up on expecting any real things on that department, since zos seem to not value any feedback outside what we think about X skill and Y change to it. So no suggestions how skills should work or changes to passives do even interest zos. I guess we will see big balancing changes every patch or two.
Thing I dislike the most is that every patch we get one completely broken set, from the category of "cancer" ones.
Soldier of Anguish will be just that. We got sloads this year as well, zaan and similar bs. There is zero need for that.0 -
Morgul667✭✭✭✭✭
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Patch notes themselves do not affect the hype
What the dev are doing with the game or crownstore is affecting the hype, for instance outfit were ruined for me when i saw the insulting price in the store for character bounds slots
MistKes or decisions like this kill the hype
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