If shield nerf goes live

usmguy1234

I think it's only fair that all survivability mechanisms gain a 1 second cast time. That means block, cloak, etc, etc.

Wollust

Oh yey another one. Because the other 10362619 threads weren‘t enough.

usmguy1234

Wollust wrote: »

Oh yey another one. Because the other 10362619 threads weren‘t enough.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease sometimes.

Apache_Kid

If shield cast times go live i will simply shelve all characters of mine that utilize a damage shield in both PvE and PvP. Cast times on my abilities that allow me to survive is simply not a mechanic I will enjoy to play with. Sooner rather than later they will realize that people are no longer wearing light armor in PvP and they will revert this idiotic proposition and I can go back to those characters that will go on the shelf if these changes make it to live.

Just wish I hadn't spend pretty much the entire summerset patch and 1st month of wolfhunter practicing and getting better on my PvP magsorc. What a giant slap in the face. All those countless hours just wasted. Down the drain

Imperial_Voice

Wollust wrote: »

Oh yey another one. Because the other 10362619 threads weren‘t enough.

^

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Oh yey another one. Because the other 10362619 threads weren‘t enough.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease sometimes.

And the response to a squeaky mouse is poison.

usmguy1234

Imperial_Voice wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Oh yey another one. Because the other 10362619 threads weren‘t enough.

^

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Oh yey another one. Because the other 10362619 threads weren‘t enough.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease sometimes.

And the response to a squeaky mouse is poison.

Good thing I'm not using a mouse. Please move on and stop trying to derail this thread.

Reistr_the_Unbroken

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Imperial_Voice wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Oh yey another one. Because the other 10362619 threads weren‘t enough.

^

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Oh yey another one. Because the other 10362619 threads weren‘t enough.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease sometimes.

And the response to a squeaky mouse is poison.

Good thing I'm not using a mouse. Please move on and stop trying to derail this thread.

From what I can see you started the conversation, so technically you were trying to derail it

RebornV3x

Breath of Life, DK wings, cloak, vigor, all the restoration staff skills and blocking need cast times now its only far and balanced zos get to it and finally balance this broken game.

Datthaw

Why don't we just turn this into wow and add cast timers for everything

usmguy1234

Apache_Kid wrote: »

If shield cast times go live i will simply shelve all characters of mine that utilize a damage shield in both PvE and PvP. Cast times on my abilities that allow me to survive is simply not a mechanic I will enjoy to play with. Sooner rather than later they will realize that people are no longer wearing light armor in PvP and they will revert this idiotic proposition and I can go back to those characters that will go on the shelf if these changes make it to live.

Just wish I hadn't spend pretty much the entire summerset patch and 1st month of wolfhunter practicing and getting better on my PvP magsorc. What a giant slap in the face. All those countless hours just wasted. Down the drain

Exactly. My mag sorc is literally a day younger then my first character which is about 4 years old at this point.
So I have literally poured 4 years of work in to this character. Just to have all that work blown to the wind by some very not well thought out nerfs by the dev team. And you have people gloating in the forums with glee about these changes. Yet they'll probably get mad that I made this thread and not see the hypocrisy in that.

Ozazz

ill quit, and so many other

Apache_Kid

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

If shield cast times go live i will simply shelve all characters of mine that utilize a damage shield in both PvE and PvP. Cast times on my abilities that allow me to survive is simply not a mechanic I will enjoy to play with. Sooner rather than later they will realize that people are no longer wearing light armor in PvP and they will revert this idiotic proposition and I can go back to those characters that will go on the shelf if these changes make it to live.

Just wish I hadn't spend pretty much the entire summerset patch and 1st month of wolfhunter practicing and getting better on my PvP magsorc. What a giant slap in the face. All those countless hours just wasted. Down the drain

Exactly. My mag sorc is literally a day younger then my first character which is about 4 years old at this point.
So I have literally poured 4 years of work in to this character. Just to have all that work blown to the wind by some very not well thought out nerfs by the dev team. And you have people gloating in the forums with glee about these changes. Yet they'll probably get mad that I made this thread and not see the hypocrisy in that.

Let them gloat and jeer. Next patch they will come for their class and add cast time to breath of life or add a cast time to wings or cloak. Those people are fools who do not understand what a slippery slope this is.

MasterSpatula

Wollust wrote: »

Oh yey another one. Because the other 10362619 threads weren‘t enough.

Considering Rob made a post yesterday defending this change, they plainly are not.

usmguy1234

Apache_Kid wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

If shield cast times go live i will simply shelve all characters of mine that utilize a damage shield in both PvE and PvP. Cast times on my abilities that allow me to survive is simply not a mechanic I will enjoy to play with. Sooner rather than later they will realize that people are no longer wearing light armor in PvP and they will revert this idiotic proposition and I can go back to those characters that will go on the shelf if these changes make it to live.

Just wish I hadn't spend pretty much the entire summerset patch and 1st month of wolfhunter practicing and getting better on my PvP magsorc. What a giant slap in the face. All those countless hours just wasted. Down the drain

Exactly. My mag sorc is literally a day younger then my first character which is about 4 years old at this point.
So I have literally poured 4 years of work in to this character. Just to have all that work blown to the wind by some very not well thought out nerfs by the dev team. And you have people gloating in the forums with glee about these changes. Yet they'll probably get mad that I made this thread and not see the hypocrisy in that.

Let them gloat and jeer. Next patch they will come for their class and add cast time to breath of life or add a cast time to wings or cloak. Those people are fools who do not understand what a slippery slope this is.

It's a very slippery slope. Arguably more so then ever at this point.

worsttankever

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Oh yey another one. Because the other 10362619 threads weren‘t enough.

Considering Rob made a post yesterday defending this change, they plainly are not.

Could you link that post ? Thank you!!

eso_nya

if u want shields to be like cloak, shields drop the second u deal damage

if u want shields to be like block, they only absorb 50% of incoming dmg and u dont regen magicka while a shield is active

Gilvoth

this threads request to hurt and nerf other classes is out retaliation and spite and not interested in actual class balance.

Imperial_Voice

Apache_Kid wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

If shield cast times go live i will simply shelve all characters of mine that utilize a damage shield in both PvE and PvP. Cast times on my abilities that allow me to survive is simply not a mechanic I will enjoy to play with. Sooner rather than later they will realize that people are no longer wearing light armor in PvP and they will revert this idiotic proposition and I can go back to those characters that will go on the shelf if these changes make it to live.

Just wish I hadn't spend pretty much the entire summerset patch and 1st month of wolfhunter practicing and getting better on my PvP magsorc. What a giant slap in the face. All those countless hours just wasted. Down the drain

Exactly. My mag sorc is literally a day younger then my first character which is about 4 years old at this point.
So I have literally poured 4 years of work in to this character. Just to have all that work blown to the wind by some very not well thought out nerfs by the dev team. And you have people gloating in the forums with glee about these changes. Yet they'll probably get mad that I made this thread and not see the hypocrisy in that.

Let them gloat and jeer. Next patch they will come for their class and add cast time to breath of life or add a cast time to wings or cloak. Those people are fools who do not understand what a slippery slope this is.

Sorc since closed beta. This isnt our first nerf and its far from the last. It isn't even the worst to date. Your slippery slope fallacy is utter nonsense. All classes exist in a perpetual cycle of nerfs and buffs and its empirically obvious based on patch notes. Take our nerf with some dignity and quit crying. Well just be buffed again in the next patch.

anatole1234

I honestly hope they go through with it. Already got a heavy sorcerer build that don't utilize shields. Can't believe people forgot sorc has the BoL equivalent with the twilight matriarch.

Imperial_Voice

anatole1234 wrote: »

I honestly hope they go through with it. Already got a heavy sorcerer build that don't utilize shields. Can't believe people forgot sorc has the BoL equivalent with the twilight matriarch.

Dont clue them in to how our class actually works. Itll derail the panic.

Reistr_the_Unbroken

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

this threads request to hurt and nerf other classes is out retaliation and spite and not interested in actual class balance.

Lmao just wait, when everything goes downhill and there’s so many nerfs that every class is broken, then people will cry "buff this please!!1!"
It’s a literal cycle of stupidity. Sorry, but why buff a class if it’s you who wanted to nerf it in the first place?

Seriously, stop nerfing everything because then the game will be very unenjoyable. And frankly I think a majority of players are sick of seeing “NERF THIS NERF THAT” threads.

Apherius

Wollust wrote: »

Oh yey another one. Because the other 10362619 threads weren‘t enough.

Are you talking about nerf sorc thread ? It's probably something like 878536941547 threads.

usmguy1234

Apherius wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Oh yey another one. Because the other 10362619 threads weren‘t enough.

Are you talking about nerf sorc thread ? It's probably something like 878536941547 threads.

And no one asked you to read it or post in it. In doing so without adding any context only makes you a troll.

usmguy1234

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

this threads request to hurt and nerf other classes is out retaliation and spite and not interested in actual class balance.

It's not at all. It's just a cold reality... And it's coming to a class you care about soon.

Hurtfan

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

If shield cast times go live i will simply shelve all characters of mine that utilize a damage shield in both PvE and PvP. Cast times on my abilities that allow me to survive is simply not a mechanic I will enjoy to play with. Sooner rather than later they will realize that people are no longer wearing light armor in PvP and they will revert this idiotic proposition and I can go back to those characters that will go on the shelf if these changes make it to live.

Just wish I hadn't spend pretty much the entire summerset patch and 1st month of wolfhunter practicing and getting better on my PvP magsorc. What a giant slap in the face. All those countless hours just wasted. Down the drain

Exactly. My mag sorc is literally a day younger then my first character which is about 4 years old at this point.
So I have literally poured 4 years of work in to this character. Just to have all that work blown to the wind by some very not well thought out nerfs by the dev team. And you have people gloating in the forums with glee about these changes. Yet they'll probably get mad that I made this thread and not see the hypocrisy in that.

This is the exact same boat I'm in with one caveat, my magsorc is my only toon, the only one I have time for. I don't want to start an alt, absolutely no desire to, thinking about all the leveling, skill points, quests, etc... that need to be re-earned (is this a word?) and redone.

Reistr_the_Unbroken

usmguy1234 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

this threads request to hurt and nerf other classes is out retaliation and spite and not interested in actual class balance.

It's not at all. It's just a cold reality... And it's coming to a class you care about soon.

Your attitude to this is why most have a right to be upset with this change.
Hope your class gets nerfed as well.

usmguy1234

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

this threads request to hurt and nerf other classes is out retaliation and spite and not interested in actual class balance.

It's not at all. It's just a cold reality... And it's coming to a class you care about soon.

Your attitude to this is why most have a right to be upset with this change.
Hope your class gets nerfed as well.

You might want to rethink your comment and actually read.

Reistr_the_Unbroken

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

this threads request to hurt and nerf other classes is out retaliation and spite and not interested in actual class balance.

It's not at all. It's just a cold reality... And it's coming to a class you care about soon.

Your attitude to this is why most have a right to be upset with this change.
Hope your class gets nerfed as well.

You might want to rethink your comment and actually read.

It's not at all. It's just a cold reality... And it's coming to a class you care about soon.
- your quote

idk

While I am not thrilled about the change on the pts there is no logic with what OP is suggesting. Cutting ones nose off to spite ones face is never good.

usmguy1234

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

this threads request to hurt and nerf other classes is out retaliation and spite and not interested in actual class balance.

It's not at all. It's just a cold reality... And it's coming to a class you care about soon.

Your attitude to this is why most have a right to be upset with this change.
Hope your class gets nerfed as well.

You might want to rethink your comment and actually read.

It's not at all. It's just a cold reality... And it's coming to a class you care about soon.
- your quote

Do you realize that I'm a sorc main? Do you realize I made this thread? Changes the context a little doesn't it?

usmguy1234

idk wrote: »

While I am not thrilled about the change on the pts there is no logic with what OP is suggesting. Cutting ones nose off to spite ones face is never good.

No it's more like cutting of your neighbors hand and him coveting the spare you have