If shield nerf goes live

Bam_Bam

Life will go on. Just like it did with Sloads, Streak, Shards, Zaan, Viper, Black Rose, Cloak etc etc. people will adapt JUST LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO.....

And life will go on.

RedFireDisco

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usmguy1234 wrote: »

I think it's only fair that all survivability mechanisms gain a 1 second cast time. That means block, cloak, etc, etc.

Oh please. Complaining about cloak because shields (that magblades also use) got nerfed.

Okay then... Add a 1 second cast time to cloak, but drop the cost down by 500 mag and make it last for 9 SECONDS.

Also, have a potion similar to detect pots that removed the shield from everyone around you within a certain radius.

Because fairness.

usmguy1234

RedFireDisco wrote: »

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usmguy1234 wrote: »

I think it's only fair that all survivability mechanisms gain a 1 second cast time. That means block, cloak, etc, etc.

Oh please. Complaining about cloak because shields (that magblades also use) got nerfed.

Okay then... Add a 1 second cast time to cloak, but drop the cost down by 500 mag and make it last for 9 SECONDS.

Also, have a potion similar to detect pots that removed the shield from everyone around you within a certain radius.

Because fairness.

Yet shields have armor sets, cp and even a debuff in pvp that counter them... yet you cry about a potion? Because "balance." That's cute.

legohead

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Lord-Otto

Bam_Bam wrote: »

Life will go on. Just like it did with Sloads, Streak, Shards, Zaan, Viper, Black Rose, Cloak etc etc. people will adapt JUST LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO.....

And life will go on.

Don't see a lot DW magsorcs in Cyro. Used to be a thing. Got nerfed into oblivion. Guess life doesn't always go on and you can't adapt to everything.

RedFireDisco

usmguy1234 wrote: »

RedFireDisco wrote: »

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usmguy1234 wrote: »

I think it's only fair that all survivability mechanisms gain a 1 second cast time. That means block, cloak, etc, etc.

Oh please. Complaining about cloak because shields (that magblades also use) got nerfed.

Okay then... Add a 1 second cast time to cloak, but drop the cost down by 500 mag and make it last for 9 SECONDS.

Also, have a potion similar to detect pots that removed the shield from everyone around you within a certain radius.

Because fairness.

Yet shields have armor sets, cp and even a debuff in pvp that counter them... yet you cry about a potion? Because "balance." That's cute.

...And cloak has many many MANY AOE & Dot skills that remove it.

Nicko_Lps

RedFireDisco wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

RedFireDisco wrote: »

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usmguy1234 wrote: »

I think it's only fair that all survivability mechanisms gain a 1 second cast time. That means block, cloak, etc, etc.

Oh please. Complaining about cloak because shields (that magblades also use) got nerfed.

Okay then... Add a 1 second cast time to cloak, but drop the cost down by 500 mag and make it last for 9 SECONDS.

Also, have a potion similar to detect pots that removed the shield from everyone around you within a certain radius.

Because fairness.

Yet shields have armor sets, cp and even a debuff in pvp that counter them... yet you cry about a potion? Because "balance." That's cute.

...And cloak has many many MANY AOE & Dot skills that remove it.

If you think that cloak is your defensive as nightblade please change a class.

Cloak is an offensive skill that can be used in a defensive way.

Stamblade defensives are: Suffle+Vigor+permaroll+shade+rally+perm majorward/resolve+teleport+maybe cloak

Magblade defensives are: Mirage+Refreshing path+shade+Shield+Perm majorward/resolve+teleport+perm 30% speed+strife+resto ward+maybe cloak+rare rolls


MSorc defensives are: Shield+shield+restoward+maybe streak+rare rolls

No DoT in game removes cloak atm, sload was removing it and got "fixed". (curse is not a DoT, its a direct damage with delay)
AoE abilites that remove cloak is only 1 utilized as far as i know and its called hurricane. Teleport to the shade you placed before away from the duel, cloak and run like a good nightblade.

Is there a CP that does 15% more dmg when you heal+roll+dodge+rolldodge+block? There is one for shields

Is there a set in game that deals 2000 oblivion damage when you heal+roll+dodge+rolldodge+block? No, there is for shields yet we have to cry about shields like good forum warriors.

Biro123

I use cloak mostly defensively..
Between dodges to force stuff to miss while giving time for the dodge-cost-increase to reset.
To suppress dots when their pressure is countering my heal over time, and I need to get health back up.
And obviously as an escape.
So versatile.

Nicko_Lps

Biro123 wrote: »

I use cloak mostly defensively..
Between dodges to force stuff to miss while giving time for the dodge-cost-increase to reset.
To suppress dots when their pressure is countering my heal over time, and I need to get health back up.
And obviously as an escape.
So versatile.

You do all that amazing things?

Cuz i only see you magsorc zergsurfing xD

Neoealth

OP is serious and so am I

Biro123

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

I use cloak mostly defensively..
Between dodges to force stuff to miss while giving time for the dodge-cost-increase to reset.
To suppress dots when their pressure is countering my heal over time, and I need to get health back up.
And obviously as an escape.
So versatile.

You do all that amazing things?

Cuz i only see you magsorc zergsurfing xD

Haven't played magsorc for ages....

You just don't see my stamblade, cus cloak

Nicko_Lps

Biro123 wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

I use cloak mostly defensively..
Between dodges to force stuff to miss while giving time for the dodge-cost-increase to reset.
To suppress dots when their pressure is countering my heal over time, and I need to get health back up.
And obviously as an escape.
So versatile.

You do all that amazing things?

Cuz i only see you magsorc zergsurfing xD

Haven't played magsorc for ages....

You just don't see my stamblade, cus cloak

Im pretty sure ive seen you zerging last week.

But why cloak? Dont i deserve some stamblade love?

Uviryth

The combat in this game is so bad, does it really matter at this point if it gets a little more broken?

Biro123

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

I use cloak mostly defensively..
Between dodges to force stuff to miss while giving time for the dodge-cost-increase to reset.
To suppress dots when their pressure is countering my heal over time, and I need to get health back up.
And obviously as an escape.
So versatile.

You do all that amazing things?

Cuz i only see you magsorc zergsurfing xD

Haven't played magsorc for ages....

You just don't see my stamblade, cus cloak

Im pretty sure ive seen you zerging last week.

But why cloak? Dont i deserve some stamblade love?

Maybe - I did hop on magsorc to get some stuff from its inventory - was in cyro when I logged in and saw a shout for help at rayles and thought 'why not', so played for maybe half an hour.. But mostly been playing a stam-focussed hybrid sorc.. Maybe you saw him throwing some curses out? But Hybrids are still weak (probably better than nerfmire magsorc tho) - so went back to stamblade again...
Honestly bored with magsorc(honestly been struggling to enjoy it since DW-sorc was destroyed) - but still can't find what I'm really happy with instead.. Maybe try my stamplar again after the patch - but only if they discount race-change tokens!

Zerging's the only playstyle left for me now, too... (Maybe partly why i'm getting bored too)..
Super-tanky Co-ordinated small-scale groups who you can't scratch but drop you with a combined ulti-dump pretty much killed real solo-play for me - and I just can't be arsed to spend the time farming mats/cash for the speed-pots needed to kite a zerg - not to mention that they're nearly all really tanky too nowadays, making killing one before too many others show up all but impossible...
Seems most of the old soloers I used to see now small-scale instead - which, as I say, pretty-much kills off solo play at resources for me.

usmguy1234

RedFireDisco wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

RedFireDisco wrote: »

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usmguy1234 wrote: »

I think it's only fair that all survivability mechanisms gain a 1 second cast time. That means block, cloak, etc, etc.

Oh please. Complaining about cloak because shields (that magblades also use) got nerfed.

Okay then... Add a 1 second cast time to cloak, but drop the cost down by 500 mag and make it last for 9 SECONDS.

Also, have a potion similar to detect pots that removed the shield from everyone around you within a certain radius.

Because fairness.

Yet shields have armor sets, cp and even a debuff in pvp that counter them... yet you cry about a potion? Because "balance." That's cute.

...And cloak has many many MANY AOE & Dot skills that remove it.

And yes that's highly effective on bad nightblades. That does nothing for me with good nightblades. The proper counter for those is mark... which is ironically a skill only available to ***drum roll*** nightblades. Plus it's getting completely gutted this patch so there's that.

AbysmalGhul

*cloaks into thread* eeeew *cloaks back out of thread*

Nhilandra77

Im sorry, after 4 years of playing this nerf has just pushed me too far. Un subbing

usmguy1234

Nhilandra77 wrote: »

Im sorry, after 4 years of playing this nerf has just pushed me too far. Un subbing

I don't blame you. I've been playing my magplar a lot in anticipation. That being said, my heart will always be with my sorc.

idk

usmguy1234 wrote: »

idk wrote: »

While I am not thrilled about the change on the pts there is no logic with what OP is suggesting. Cutting ones nose off to spite ones face is never good.

But in all reality, this is a thread about community hypocrisy. People are so delighted when sorc gets gutted in one pts cycle in the name of balance. Yet when the conversation shifts to include them they start crawfishing.

I get what you are saying, that this thread is just following the line of absurd threads that have cropped up recently.

Androconium

usmguy1234 wrote: »

I think it's only fair that all survivability mechanisms gain a 1 second cast time. That means block, cloak, etc, etc.

YEAH!!! LET'S DO THIS!!!!

usmguy1234

idk wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

idk wrote: »

While I am not thrilled about the change on the pts there is no logic with what OP is suggesting. Cutting ones nose off to spite ones face is never good.

But in all reality, this is a thread about community hypocrisy. People are so delighted when sorc gets gutted in one pts cycle in the name of balance. Yet when the conversation shifts to include them they start crawfishing.

I get what you are saying, that this thread is just following the line of absurd threads that have cropped up recently.

I'm sorry you don't understand sarcasm. I can't help you there.