Fake tanks, and fake healers. But I see mostly fake tanks in my experience.
I had a dungeon recently where the guy was "guys I am a fake tank, but if we can't do it i will just leave" that attitude stinks imo because he is basically admitting without shame that he was too lazy to queue up like everyone else and if it does not work he is perfectly happy to leave and make his team wait AGAIN for a tank.
I voiced my disapproval to him but he just didn't care at all.
That guy that posts his DPS after every fight and especially after AOE pulls
This is not an issue on console but I'm going with the attitude. I'm better then you look at my gold trials gear has 16k health and drops bc they are so used to being carried my 2 healers in vet trials. Then rage at the rest of the group.
Speed run guy because he never, ever, ever asks if its ok for a speed run, just zooms off into the distance.
I prefer to stay with the group and ensure that all those adds he dragged and released back onto us get dealt with and any weaker group member doesn't get too frustrated.
Thats if he's even halfway good, if not I just walk over his body as we go past if he's waiting for a res.
The fact that I have to spend a week non stop running a dungeon for that piece of equipment I have probably deconned a dozen times over but need one now to try a new build.
i dont deal with fake tanks, sine i am the tank 9 of 10 times.
if i dont tank, i am the healer.
i let the fake tank or speed runner die and refuse to res him.
what i do hate is fake dps.
a CP11 spamming only bow light attacks has no place in veteran bloodroot forge.
i vote to kick everytime or i bail.
i am really not elitist, but i dont have 4 hours to do 1 dungeon that should take 30 minutes.
my time is worth more than that investment of frustration that WILL fail anyway.
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Fake tanks, especially in vet dungeons. That's why I usually queue with a real tank to not worry.
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Had the most odd team member in a run the other day. I was levelling my Warden tank, I think level 40 or so but 780CP and has all the usual S&B tanking skills plus some Warden damage skills to help clear trash, plus some self heals, when a random normal dungeon popped. I started taunting etc. and this player pipes up with, "I can heal AND tank if you need it", everyone ignores him. He then starts asking me why I am using the Screaming Cliff Racer instead of the Shalks for damage, I explain I am levelling the char and skill lines, but as it's an easy-mode dungeon I can't see an issue. He suddenly pipes up with, "screenshotted for griefplay, thank you!!!"
Just to be clear, I ask him who is griefing who, no response. I then decide that I can't be arsed to play with someone in the team like this, and besides, my wife is preparing a rather nice lunch, so I leave the group.
I then get a PM, "You loser! Leaving is not an option, reported! You will be baned (sic) in two weeks most!!!!!"
So, whilst I find fake tanks and fake DPS as annoying as the next person, it's the random nutcases that really get me!
The people who vote to kick you for no apparent reason.
I'm still salty over that even though I know I shouldn't be, but seriously I wasn't doing a single thing wrong! And I get randomly kicked just before the final boss when I was pretty much carrying them through on a horribly made character.
I chose to vote for the speed run guy, but really for me it's a toss up between both that and the fake tank for what annoys me the most. Like someone else said, the speed run guy almost never asks, and I'm getting tired of being in a dungeon where said guy shoots off and leaves the rest of the group to deal with the trash mobs he leaves behind (and in the instance of the pledge I ran yesterday, the healer up and went off with him and left the DDs for dead - even better when we all wiped on a mini-boss because the mobs decided they wanted to up and join in and we were left overwhelmed).
I think it would just make things a little easier, not to mention it'd just be plain decency for someone to say upfront that they want to do a speed run at the very beginning. Saves a whole lot of time and confusion later on when people start running around not knowing what's going on.
Then the fake tanks.
Had a PUG in nCoS the other week - a tank and myself joined when the others were up to Velidreth and the first thing the tank says is "I'm not a real tank, pls kick me." The group leader tried to initiate a vote kick but sadly it didn't pass. We ended up clearing, thankfully, but it was still annoying nevertheless. At least he was honest about it, though. I'll give him kudos for that at least.
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Low DPS, and people moving the boss in groups without a real tank.
But the main problem is ZOS.
The only reason people are queuing with randoms, with fake tank positions, and doing speed runs is because the daily rewards of doing a random dungeon.
I would personally prefer to play as a fake tank to clear a normal dungeon solo in 10 minutes than have the change to go in with an actual tank and waste 30+ minutes with clearing only the first boss.
Edited by rosendoichinoveb17_ESO on September 17, 2018 11:10AM
People not knowing how to read. I explain said mechanics in all Scandinavian languages, English, German and sometimes I will go to the extreme and get Italian translate too. but it seems like they can't read chat no matter what you do and they keep dying to stupid mechanics. 900cp my butt.
Alternate between the 3 roles having now made alts for each and to be honest they are all frustrating one way or another. Least frustrating though is speedrun as they are usually half competent.
Fake tank can also be a pain, but fortunately not come across them too often in Vetran and in most normal its a non-issue as I can self heal and shield as needed.
Low DPS is a pain though if I am in the other roles, just makes things slow and take ages. More so when spamming something like force pulse between heals is causing me to do 55% of group DPS (run earlier today)
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As a healer, I will bring up the rear, so any speedrunners get no heals.
That said, in pugs, I 'get' why sometimes the tank charges well ahead - in a pug it is often the only way for the tank to grab initial aggro and get the fight started on his terms. I have noticed that commonly. In a coordinated group, the tank gets buffed up then everyone holds while he gets the fight started. In a pug though, his next best choice is to simply charge in and hope to get things going before everyone else shows up.
I like pugging on my healer. Hate pugging on my tank.
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Fake tanks in vet, dont mind them in normal, closely followed by the speedrun guys. low dps only make the fight last longer, not a big deal in my book.
Edited by sudaki_eso on September 17, 2018 11:21AM
The speedrun guy in normal dungeons. Normals dungeons are where people are trying to do the quests. Speedrun guy has no consideration for anyone else, and doesn't care if people are able to complete the quest or not.
It depends on which role I'm playing, but usually it's fake tanking that bothers me the most. I don't mind the speed run guy as long as they don't die when they charge ahead, and I'm trying to compensate for low dps by slotting some damage skills if I'm on a non-DD character. Most of all though it's when I'm queueing for a random normal, and I get a DLC dungeon for which the rest of the group doesn't know mechanics, and don't give a heads up even when asked. It's fine not knowing mechanics, we all have to learn somewhere, but at least please say so, and then I can explain the need-to-know stuff, so the instance won't take double the time to complete.
Speed runner doesn't always know the mechanics; I've sometimes watched how, with comical effect, the runner shoots forward, dies and then, on occasion, blames the rest of the group.
On another hand, I had a decent run in normal Fang Lair where tank said upfront she's not one (magsorc, I think she was, and rather high CP), and even apologized for not having taunt skill, but honestly was trying to keep up by taunting with frost staff and surviving. That's something I like.
Fake tanks especially for vet. Get tired of running for my life in a boss fight. The speedy run ahead guys I just let them go ahead to die. No reason to try and keep up.