Dwarves as a new race.

AlienSlof

I would like to see a single player Elder Scrolls game set in the past exploring the Dwemer in more detail. One of the most interesting races and they're mostly extinct... :P

I think it would suit a single player setting more than ESO.

Wifeaggro13

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

They're called Dwemer and dont look like normal fantasy Dwarves.
Giants called the Dwemer Dwarves because they were so small compared to them.

Dwemer are Elves that lived underground, its not like they're short and thic like commonly known Dwarves.

http://eldorf.tripod.com/Morrowind/eldorf069.html only in game model of a dwarf you will find. a lot of Zenimax's lore was written after the orignal games. though there were tons of it in game via books we are dealing with revisonist history based on fitiing the game that already existed. TES Arena was an accident. it was originaly just a small game that was arena based combat. it became an open world RPG by mistake lol

Chaos2088

Well there are no Dwarfs (Dwemer) on Tamriel anymore....

There are other continents on Nirn and other planes of existence as well...

....we will have to wait and see.

Cryptical

There is the matter of Arniel Gane.

AuraNebula

It will never happen. Dwarves are all extinct, except for one Yagrum Bagarn. If they were going to bring him back they would have done so in Morrowind. He is most likely in another realm or wandering Tamriel looking for the other dwarves still.

Cryptical

It’s possible they never left, have been there all along, and that we interact with them often.

The heart was used to grant divinity. It might have done so to the dwemer. If only there were a countless number of divine beings floating around...

From the lore, dwemer care not one whit for the inconveniences of others, and make heavy demands such as taking the eyes and very faculties of the snow elves, turning their elf brothers into Falmer. How very daedric of an attitude.

And since time works differently for the Daedra, they easily might not be stuck in linear time.

They could have been turned into the daedric princes, Demi princes, etc.

AuraNebula

Cryptical wrote: »

It’s possible they never left, have been there all along, and that we interact with them often.

The heart was used to grant divinity. It might have done so to the dwemer. If only there were a countless number of divine beings floating around...

From the lore, dwemer care not one whit for the inconveniences of others, and make heavy demands such as taking the eyes and very faculties of the snow elves, turning their elf brothers into Falmer. How very daedric of an attitude.

And since time works differently for the Daedra, they easily might not be stuck in linear time.

They could have been turned into the daedric princes, Demi princes, etc.

The Dwarves also had very high opinions of themselves. If they did succeed in becoming immortal after Kragnarec struck the heart of Lorkhan, I can't imagine them not flaunting the fact that they have become a daedric entity.

CatchMeTrolling

Too lore breaking but not impossible since these guys can make up something to make it possible. Albeit, I don’t see it happening in eso before the single player game.

Kanar

The dwemer ("dwarves") are the worst thing to ever happen to the Elder Scrolls universe. Hopefully no future ES titles will expand upon them and ESO will stop making dwemer content.

Valrien

Kanar wrote: »

The dwemer ("dwarves") are the worst thing to ever happen to the Elder Scrolls universe. Hopefully no future ES titles will expand upon them and ESO will stop making dwemer content.

They never really made all that much Dwemer content in the first place.

ictopbasli

Who cares lore? We need more contents. If playing with Dwemer race is against you, then don't play with them. Simple is that.

AuraNebula

Kanar wrote: »

The dwemer ("dwarves") are the worst thing to ever happen to the Elder Scrolls universe. Hopefully no future ES titles will expand upon them and ESO will stop making dwemer content.

Why do you say that? They are a huge part of the lore, and I find it very fascinating. There is not much dwemer content except for the old ruins left behind.

Salvas_Aren

I want to play a Lilmothiit, a Falmer, a Maormer and a Reachman.

Don't forget to bring different vampire bloods, werebears and werelions as well.

#stupiddemand #tosgetrekt

AuraNebula

ictopbasli wrote: »

Who cares lore? We need more contents. If playing with Dwemer race is against you, then don't play with them. Simple is that.

No.

There are other things they could expand upon besides breaking the single biggest mystery in the Elder Scrolls universe.

Valrien

Princessrhaenyra wrote: »

ictopbasli wrote: »

Who cares lore? We need more contents. If playing with Dwemer race is against you, then don't play with them. Simple is that.

No.

There are other things they could expand upon besides breaking the single biggest mystery in the Elder Scrolls universe.

I would attribute that to what happens when all of the towers fall, considering that now ZOS has acknowledged towers as official lore in the Psijic quests

Shezzarrine

Cryptical wrote: »

It’s possible they never left, have been there all along, and that we interact with them often.

The heart was used to grant divinity. It might have done so to the dwemer. If only there were a countless number of divine beings floating around...

From the lore, dwemer care not one whit for the inconveniences of others, and make heavy demands such as taking the eyes and very faculties of the snow elves, turning their elf brothers into Falmer. How very daedric of an attitude.

And since time works differently for the Daedra, they easily might not be stuck in linear time.

They could have been turned into the daedric princes, Demi princes, etc.

They combined their souls to become the metal skin of the Numidium, and wanted other races to follow in their footsteps to become the limitless spirits everyone is a fragment of.

RGvolterra

I’d like ZOS to introduce a race who could have abilities based on ice ... damage / protection and healing ... everything based on ice it could be the introduction of the snow elves who could control the icy abilities ... or the Maomer who could manipulate the abilities based on water longing forward to properly create the God of the ice ( wintry powers ) and a type of Poseidon

AuraNebula

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Cryptical wrote: »

It’s possible they never left, have been there all along, and that we interact with them often.

The heart was used to grant divinity. It might have done so to the dwemer. If only there were a countless number of divine beings floating around...

From the lore, dwemer care not one whit for the inconveniences of others, and make heavy demands such as taking the eyes and very faculties of the snow elves, turning their elf brothers into Falmer. How very daedric of an attitude.

And since time works differently for the Daedra, they easily might not be stuck in linear time.

They could have been turned into the daedric princes, Demi princes, etc.

They combined their souls to become the metal skin of the Numidium, and wanted other races to follow in their footsteps to become the limitless spirits everyone is a fragment of.

That's not fact but just a theory. A well thought out one, but we do not know that is exactly what happened to them.

imredneckson

Wizhunter wrote: »

I would love them to bring Dwarves into the game as a new race especially as Dwarves seem to have a lot of history in Tamriel, Plus I think they would be a good race to play. What do you guys think ?

Wiz

As cool as it would be to add dwemer to the list of playable races, lore wise it wouldn't work. There are more viable races on Nirn that could be added like the Moamer, the races of Akavir, and other beast mer races.

Shezzarrine

Princessrhaenyra wrote: »

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Cryptical wrote: »

It’s possible they never left, have been there all along, and that we interact with them often.

The heart was used to grant divinity. It might have done so to the dwemer. If only there were a countless number of divine beings floating around...

From the lore, dwemer care not one whit for the inconveniences of others, and make heavy demands such as taking the eyes and very faculties of the snow elves, turning their elf brothers into Falmer. How very daedric of an attitude.

And since time works differently for the Daedra, they easily might not be stuck in linear time.

They could have been turned into the daedric princes, Demi princes, etc.

They combined their souls to become the metal skin of the Numidium, and wanted other races to follow in their footsteps to become the limitless spirits everyone is a fragment of.

That's not fact but just a theory. A well thought out one, but we do not know that is exactly what happened to them.

Of course but it's the best theory we have, also was "confirmed" by Kirkbride if you put any stock into what he says. He wrote that lore but they could always change it I guess. I hope they don't because I really like that explaination

lagrue

drkfrontiers wrote: »

Does it come with a magk flintlock?

And Dwemer Power Armor and Arm Cannons, you can never forget those.

AuraNebula

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Princessrhaenyra wrote: »

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Cryptical wrote: »

It’s possible they never left, have been there all along, and that we interact with them often.

The heart was used to grant divinity. It might have done so to the dwemer. If only there were a countless number of divine beings floating around...

From the lore, dwemer care not one whit for the inconveniences of others, and make heavy demands such as taking the eyes and very faculties of the snow elves, turning their elf brothers into Falmer. How very daedric of an attitude.

And since time works differently for the Daedra, they easily might not be stuck in linear time.

They could have been turned into the daedric princes, Demi princes, etc.

They combined their souls to become the metal skin of the Numidium, and wanted other races to follow in their footsteps to become the limitless spirits everyone is a fragment of.

That's not fact but just a theory. A well thought out one, but we do not know that is exactly what happened to them.

Of course but it's the best theory we have, also was "confirmed" by Kirkbride if you put any stock into what he says. He wrote that lore but they could always change it I guess. I hope they don't because I really like that explaination

Uuntil it's in game it is not cannon. I dislike that most people just use it as cannon. Even if Krikbride confirmed it. I also don't like that explanation as it is pretty disappointing that the numidium is eventually destroyed and therefore the dwemer. It's just not that satisfying imo.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

I can see Wizhunter disappearing from his job and waking up in a brightly lit - yet comfortably appointed - British-style library deep beneath ZOS headquarters.

Sitting across from him, monocle perched and pipe in hand is Lawrence Schick. His rumbling bass tones announce, "So, Wiz. I understand you're under the impression that the Dwemer can just 'pop up' anywhere willy-nilly in the Elder Scrolls timeline. Care to comment?"

zaria

Cryptical wrote: »

They cannot be summoned in any way. That very skilled necromancer mon in fang lair has determined their souls are beyond reach.

She has summoned and commanded the souls of many people, things, including ancient very powerful beings. But no dwemer has ever answered.

Edit: which leads me to think that the solitary dwarf left does not actually count as dwemer anymore, maybe.

Since he is alive he can not be summoned by an necromancer.
Now daedra can be summoned while alive but he is no daedra.

Valrien

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

I can see Wizhunter disappearing from his job and waking up in a brightly lit - yet comfortably appointed - British-style library deep beneath ZOS headquarters.

Sitting across from him, monocle perched and pipe in hand is Lawrence Schick. His rumbling bass tones announce, "So, Wiz. I understand you're under the impression that the Dwemer can just 'pop up' anywhere willy-nilly in the Elder Scrolls timeline. Care to comment?"

Anyone else ever wonder whether or not Lawrence Schick would make one hell of a DM for DnD?

I mean hell he LOOKs like a wizard

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

Valrien wrote: »

Anyone else ever wonder whether or not Lawrence Schick would make one hell of a DM for DnD?

I mean hell he LOOKs like a wizard

If he ever finds himself unemployed, I'm going to do my best to hire him as my personal bed-time story reader...

Shezzarrine

Princessrhaenyra wrote: »

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Princessrhaenyra wrote: »

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Cryptical wrote: »

It’s possible they never left, have been there all along, and that we interact with them often.

The heart was used to grant divinity. It might have done so to the dwemer. If only there were a countless number of divine beings floating around...

From the lore, dwemer care not one whit for the inconveniences of others, and make heavy demands such as taking the eyes and very faculties of the snow elves, turning their elf brothers into Falmer. How very daedric of an attitude.

And since time works differently for the Daedra, they easily might not be stuck in linear time.

They could have been turned into the daedric princes, Demi princes, etc.

They combined their souls to become the metal skin of the Numidium, and wanted other races to follow in their footsteps to become the limitless spirits everyone is a fragment of.

That's not fact but just a theory. A well thought out one, but we do not know that is exactly what happened to them.

Of course but it's the best theory we have, also was "confirmed" by Kirkbride if you put any stock into what he says. He wrote that lore but they could always change it I guess. I hope they don't because I really like that explaination

Uuntil it's in game it is not cannon. I dislike that most people just use it as cannon. Even if Krikbride confirmed it. I also don't like that explanation as it is pretty disappointing that the numidium is eventually destroyed and therefore the dwemer. It's just not that satisfying imo.

Just because it isn't in game now doesn't mean it won't be, lots of evidence in game towards that theory. They will probably never outright say it anyway. Also the Numidium is basically a god, destroying it is not the same as destroying the average Dwemer construct. Anything with the power to cause dragon breaks upon activation is not something that can be destroyed in such a mundane fashion. Also I agree I don't think we should take everything Kirkbride says as cannon *cough* KINMUNE *cough* but he still does influence the elder scrolls universe somewhat no matter if I or you like it or not. At this point it's going to have to come down to agree to disagree

Valrien

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Princessrhaenyra wrote: »

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Princessrhaenyra wrote: »

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Cryptical wrote: »

It’s possible they never left, have been there all along, and that we interact with them often.

The heart was used to grant divinity. It might have done so to the dwemer. If only there were a countless number of divine beings floating around...

From the lore, dwemer care not one whit for the inconveniences of others, and make heavy demands such as taking the eyes and very faculties of the snow elves, turning their elf brothers into Falmer. How very daedric of an attitude.

And since time works differently for the Daedra, they easily might not be stuck in linear time.

They could have been turned into the daedric princes, Demi princes, etc.

They combined their souls to become the metal skin of the Numidium, and wanted other races to follow in their footsteps to become the limitless spirits everyone is a fragment of.

That's not fact but just a theory. A well thought out one, but we do not know that is exactly what happened to them.

Of course but it's the best theory we have, also was "confirmed" by Kirkbride if you put any stock into what he says. He wrote that lore but they could always change it I guess. I hope they don't because I really like that explaination

Uuntil it's in game it is not cannon. I dislike that most people just use it as cannon. Even if Krikbride confirmed it. I also don't like that explanation as it is pretty disappointing that the numidium is eventually destroyed and therefore the dwemer. It's just not that satisfying imo.

Just because it isn't in game now doesn't mean it won't be, lots of evidence in game towards that theory. They will probably never outright say it anyway. Also the Numidium is basically a god, destroying it is not the same as destroying the average Dwemer construct. Anything with the power to cause dragon breaks upon activation is not something that can be destroyed in such a mundane fashion. Also I agree I don't think we should take everything Kirkbride says as cannon *cough* KINMUNE *cough* but he still does influence the elder scrolls universe somewhat no matter if I or you like it or not. At this point it's going to have to come down to agree to disagree

Things Kirkbride has written have become canon though so that's not also something to entirely discount.

E.g., towers

Ir0nB34r

The only way they would be a playable race is if they appear in a future game, set not only after the events of ESO, but Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.

So, what I am trying to say is, you will need to accept that they will never be coming to ESO for lore reasons.

Also, side note, their disappearance is one of my favorite bits of background lore through the whole series.

WhipSmartMcoy

The Dwarves erased themselves from existence during the battle of red mountain in the first era. So we're well beyond that at this point, and since TES games all take place past ESO's current timeline, it would make no sense at all to suddenly bring them back.
Tiber Septim (Talos) rose to power during the second era though, so I'm personally still waiting for some DLC about Hjaltii Early-Beard 😉