HDR broke on xbox since wolfhunter? EDIT: Patch coming early october

happyhughes2001

blunned wrote: »

Posts are now being removed and altered at an alarming rate and this is extremely relevant to the discussion at hand and this thread in particular. While this is specifically related to the issues with HDR the problem underscores a much larger issue with apathy toward console players and an insufficient community dialogue related to this issue. If you took half the time and effort you are currently taking removing content that is “off topic” actually responding to the additional concerns and questions in this thread, console players may not be leaving your game at an alarming rate. I would certainly still be an ESO+ subscriber if you all had handled this differently. You are removing posts you want gone, not posts “off topic.” I still see many posts from people admitting to trolling in this thread that have not been removed. It just so happens they have a different view than the majority of people posting here so their posts get to stay? Once again, this is extremely relevant to this thread because you are suppressing the ability for us to talk about how this issue relates to a much larger issue the player base has with your game and your community management. These are relevant to the current HDR breaking update.

Exactly this ^

happyhughes2001

A lot of posts have been removed that explain what HDR actually does. Those are important to the thread as a lot people don’t understand HDR.

Zos have admitted they broke HDR. We are currently waiting for them to decide whether they are going to fix it or leave it as it is.

As you can imagine this is currently a deal breaker for a lot us.

happyhughes2001

CleverAlchemist wrote: »

I agree that our voices should be loud on this matter. The screenshots I posted above were taken on my standard PS4 (not pro) on an LG 4k display, so believe me when I say that PS4 users are assuredly already onboard the displeasure train.

Disappointment across the board on this.

happyhughes2001

TheLastEpicureanTheLastEpicurean
1:09PM
"ZOS_MattFiror wrote: »
I know there’s more than a little bit of concern from our Xbox One X and PlayStation 4 Pro players..."

I'm sorry, but the rest of this makes no sense. You had a "no change" policy, it wasn't followed, you changed something, change it back. I don't care about "some people now like the change", you've admitted you shouldn't have changed it.

Also, the HDR slider now has ZERO effect. That must be a bug.

This game used to look beautiful. I had my HDR TV set up, it looked great, it was one of the draws for playing ESO as few games take advantage of it. Now it looks washed out.

Unless there is something you're not telling us, change it back, you admitted it shouldn't have been changed.

dotme

Sylvermynx wrote: »

dotme wrote: »

JahneeO wrote: »

I'd like to see this comparison at the same time of day

Now granted, beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I prefer vegetation and lighting that pops a little. We lost that with the update, and it's such a shame. The least they could have done is made the HDR Brightness slider function to allow us to choose our own intensity level. Instead, we were given a grey mess with no options. You can't increase the color on the TV without over-saturating maps, HUD and loadscreens. The transition from load screen to world feels like going from full color to sepia now.

Um. If my game looked like your first pic, I'd be tweaking madly to get rid of it. Seriously, if that's what you like.... well, I don't, and thankfully I don't have to deal with it. The second pic looks "normal" to me. That's a good thing. I'm on PC thank the GODDESSES.

Which is why I said "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

I dropped $2,200 on a HDR-capable TV and PS4Pro primarily for ESO. Yes, that's entirely my fault. I assumed they wouldn't change how the entire game looks nearly 2 years later. I was wrong about that, and while that's my bad, I can certainly express my frustration about it.

I'm calling for a slider that lets those with HDR setups set their own preferences. That's the right fix, assuming it's technically possible. Right now, what I see is load screens full of color, followed by a zone that's seriously muted when it comes to color. They simply don't match. The load screen sets the expectation, the zone doesn't deliver. Not angry, just disappointed that this was done in such a heavy-handed way and it really has completely changed the gaming experience for me with ESO.

happyhughes2001

dotme wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

dotme wrote: »

JahneeO wrote: »

I'd like to see this comparison at the same time of day

Now granted, beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I prefer vegetation and lighting that pops a little. We lost that with the update, and it's such a shame. The least they could have done is made the HDR Brightness slider function to allow us to choose our own intensity level. Instead, we were given a grey mess with no options. You can't increase the color on the TV without over-saturating maps, HUD and loadscreens. The transition from load screen to world feels like going from full color to sepia now.

Um. If my game looked like your first pic, I'd be tweaking madly to get rid of it. Seriously, if that's what you like.... well, I don't, and thankfully I don't have to deal with it. The second pic looks "normal" to me. That's a good thing. I'm on PC thank the GODDESSES.

Which is why I said "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

I dropped $2,200 on a HDR-capable TV and PS4Pro primarily for ESO. Yes, that's entirely my fault. I assumed they wouldn't change how the entire game looks nearly 2 years later. I was wrong about that, and while that's my bad, I can certainly express my frustration about it.

I'm calling for a slider that lets those with HDR setups set their own preferences. That's the right fix, assuming it's technically possible. Right now, what I see is load screens full of color, followed by a zone that's seriously muted when it comes to color. They simply don't match. The load screen sets the expectation, the zone doesn't deliver. Not angry, just disappointed that this was done in such a heavy-handed way and it really has completely changed the gaming experience for me with ESO.

I’m in the same boat.

The downgrade is so drastic that even my wife who has no real interest has commented on it.

Seems like it doesn’t really matter.

Mewpers

I’ve done what I can on my side to improve it, but the world is flatter, duller, and just a disappointment on every login. For example, I LOVE CWC and couldn’t understand previous why some people said it was just all brown and boring. I loved every detail and nuance of it. Now I see what they mean. The trees still have a nice shine, but there’s otherwise a sort of dull monotony now.

Please retune this. The game is aging and it’s just a spur to turn to newer, better looking games.

Davor

Still not turned on after the maintenance? Shameful.

valeriiya

blunned wrote: »

Posts are now being removed and altered at an alarming rate and this is extremely relevant to the discussion at hand and this thread in particular. While this is specifically related to the issues with HDR the problem underscores a much larger issue with apathy toward console players and an insufficient community dialogue related to this issue. If you took half the time and effort you are currently taking removing content that is “off topic” actually responding to the additional concerns and questions in this thread, console players may not be leaving your game at an alarming rate. I would certainly still be an ESO+ subscriber if you all had handled this differently. You are removing posts you want gone, not posts “off topic.” I still see many posts from people admitting to trolling in this thread that have not been removed. It just so happens they have a different view than the majority of people posting here so their posts get to stay? Once again, this is extremely relevant to this thread because you are suppressing the ability for us to talk about how this issue relates to a much larger issue the player base has with your game and your community management. These are relevant to the current HDR breaking update.

I've noticed that the more truth you tell and point out how it was a ZOS error and not the players fault, the quicker a thread will get shut down. The HDR hasn't impacted me but I share the frustration over changes being made, little to no communication and when communication is finally made, it's horrible. The only thing ZO$ cares about is money. Cancel your subs and stay out of the crown store, they will notice that.

happyhughes2001

Please ZOS, can you fix the HDR.

CleverAlchemist

happyhughes2001 wrote: »

Please ZOS, can you fix the HDR.

I second that motion.

Geroken777

Is it not possible to revert the HDR changes or something? I mean if the problem is so big why can't you just do this?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Obviously before typing this I haven't read ZOS' statement, but the no change policy just seems so radical and stupid

o_0

Geroken777 wrote: »

Is it not possible to revert the HDR changes or something? I mean if the problem is so big why can't you just do this?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Obviously before typing this I haven't read ZOS' statement, but the no change policy just seems so radical and stupid

The no change policy should only apply to anything that was implemented correctly, which this wasn't on many levels. It would be like refusing to remodel your house, only to have a car drive through the front wall and not fix it as it would be considered remodeling.

BuddyAces

What's fricken hilarious is that they're worried about the opinion of a handful of players who have started playing for the first time ever since the update than the vast majority of players from pre patch.

Mind f'n boggled.

happyhughes2001

BuddyAces wrote: »

What's fricken hilarious is that they're worried about the opinion of a handful of players who have started playing for the first time ever since the update than the vast majority of players from pre patch.

Mind f'n boggled.

Crazy

Davor

I am curious when I read a thread, and a new message come the title of the thread is bolded. Here I am seeing it greyed out as if I read it. So how come it's still greyed out when new messages are posted in this thread?

happyhughes2001

Davor wrote: »

I am curious when I read a thread, and a new message come the title of the thread is bolded. Here I am seeing it greyed out as if I read it. So how come it's still greyed out when new messages are posted in this thread?

I’ve noticed the same?

crjs1

I noticed the same too! Odd

Krayl

Wow you guys did a maintenance update today and did NOT revert this back???

Baffling. I have left the topic relatively alone ever since we got a better explanation from @ZOS_MattFiror but the fact that an opportunity to fix this problem came and went and you did NOTHING is offensive as a paying customer.

It's become painfully apparent that the support for this game is on auto-pilot. I feel like quite the fool for investing my dollars into it at this point. Congratutions! In one thread and one issue, you've turned me from someone who would roll my eyes at people who would threaten to quit the game into someone who now has to consider what kind of a rube continues to pay money to a company that obviously couldn't care less about a large chunk of their customers.

I can only imagine that between the disconnect issues, skills XP not updating properly, food buff bugs, and every other problem this game has you certainly aren't investing the hundreds of dollars i've spent in subscriptions and crowns into actually fixing anything.

lagrue

Krayl wrote: »

Wow you guys did a maintenance update today and did NOT revert this back???

Baffling. .

Nothing baffling about it - they already stated what they're planning to do about it. Whether you and everybody in this thread like that is beyond the point. They are going to re-impliment it when they feel it's right.

PS Protip: Maintenance and Patches aren't the same thing.... should have never expected a fix with a maintenance.

Audrena

lagrue wrote: »

Maintenance and Patches aren't the same thing.... should have never expected a fix with a maintenance.

I could swear someone said there was meant to be an incremental patch for consoles this week, though. Which would have been the perfect opportunity to revert the HDR change.

Davor

crjs1 wrote: »

I noticed the same too! Odd

I only go to the last post as well, not the last one I read. This same for you as well?

Tin Foil Hat time. Maybe Zenimax doesn't want to be accused of deleting posts, but this could be a way to try and quiet this thread down? Tin Foil Hat off. Just find it weird, don't know what else to think since I never seen this before.

happyhughes2001

Krayl wrote: »

Wow you guys did a maintenance update today and did NOT revert this back???

Baffling. I have left the topic relatively alone ever since we got a better explanation from @ZOS_MattFiror but the fact that an opportunity to fix this problem came and went and you did NOTHING is offensive as a paying customer.

It's become painfully apparent that the support for this game is on auto-pilot. I feel like quite the fool for investing my dollars into it at this point. Congratutions! In one thread and one issue, you've turned me from someone who would roll my eyes at people who would threaten to quit the game into someone who now has to consider what kind of a rube continues to pay money to a company that obviously couldn't care less about a large chunk of their customers.

I can only imagine that between the disconnect issues, skills XP not updating properly, food buff bugs, and every other problem this game has you certainly aren't investing the hundreds of dollars i've spent in subscriptions and crowns into actually fixing anything.

Agree

Beardimus

Davor wrote: »

I am curious when I read a thread, and a new message come the title of the thread is bolded. Here I am seeing it greyed out as if I read it. So how come it's still greyed out when new messages are posted in this thread?

Same for me, its like there were no new comments yet it was on the regents page.

Personally think they need to revert HDR now, work out the code for a switch etc later. Roll back.

Feanor

Davor wrote: »

I am curious when I read a thread, and a new message come the title of the thread is bolded. Here I am seeing it greyed out as if I read it. So how come it's still greyed out when new messages are posted in this thread?

That’s an old bug in the forum software. Whenever posts get deleted the post counter doesn’t seem to get updated accordingly, and thus you won’t see the thread being pushed back to the top and bolded until the post count again reaches the number the counter was at before the posts got deleted.

At least that’s my observation over the years.

Beardimus

Feanor wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

I am curious when I read a thread, and a new message come the title of the thread is bolded. Here I am seeing it greyed out as if I read it. So how come it's still greyed out when new messages are posted in this thread?

That’s an old bug in the forum software. Whenever posts get deleted the post counter doesn’t seem to get updated accordingly, and thus you won’t see the thread being pushed back to the top and bolded until the post count again reaches the number the counter was at before the posts got deleted.

At least that’s my observation over the years.

Interesting!!!

DreadKnight

BuddyAces wrote: »

What's fricken hilarious is that they're worried about the opinion of a handful of players who have started playing for the first time ever since the update than the vast majority of players from pre patch.

Mind f'n boggled.

Reading between the lines...….

...maybe we are just being paid lip service to. i.e., the division is only within Zenimax itself, hence they can't decide what to do, and they just don't care at all what we think?

It's the only thing that makes sense given that at least 80% of the players want it put back?

happyhughes2001

Feanor wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

I am curious when I read a thread, and a new message come the title of the thread is bolded. Here I am seeing it greyed out as if I read it. So how come it's still greyed out when new messages are posted in this thread?

That’s an old bug in the forum software. Whenever posts get deleted the post counter doesn’t seem to get updated accordingly, and thus you won’t see the thread being pushed back to the top and bolded until the post count again reaches the number the counter was at before the posts got deleted.

At least that’s my observation over the years.

That makes sense. I was wondering why it never indicated there was new messages.

happyhughes2001

Beardimus wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

I am curious when I read a thread, and a new message come the title of the thread is bolded. Here I am seeing it greyed out as if I read it. So how come it's still greyed out when new messages are posted in this thread?

Same for me, its like there were no new comments yet it was on the regents page.

Personally think they need to revert HDR now, work out the code for a switch etc later. Roll back.

Zos please fix the HDR

happyhughes2001

Please fix the HDR