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Fang Lair Exploit

DazPK
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This is an exploit to skip the bear boss in fang lair.
Nobody in this video actively used the exploit, it was done only for the purpose of the video.
This is done in normal mode however it obviously also works in veteran.
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Not sure who to tag so if someone could help me out it would be appreciated.
[edited to remove video]
Edited by ZOS_Ragnar on August 18, 2018 1:42PM
  • Aesthier
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    Best bet is to remove this from the forums and send it to support and talk to them.

    Posting it here could be seen as trying to share the exploit so as to hide behind the masses now attempting it due to your post.
  • SilverWF
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    Well, not a big deal, really, even with fact, that this is 2nd hardest (if not 1st) boss there.
    They didn't get the loot from that boss, just avoiding a fight with him.
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  • FloppyTouch
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    I'm not sure exploit we been skipping bosses for a long time like in fungle grotto where u jump down the water fall then go straight to the boss. You only have to fight 1 boss to get to the last one.
  • MakoFore
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    SilverWF wrote: »
    Well, not a big deal, really, even with fact, that this is 2nd hardest (if not 1st) boss there.
    They didn't get the loot from that boss, just avoiding a fight with him.

    well it is given alot of people have and havent gotten their speed/no death achieves for that place- and that fight is the biggest impediment/challenge to both those achievements
  • Unfadingsilence
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    I'm not sure exploit we been skipping bosses for a long time like in fungle grotto where u jump down the water fall then go straight to the boss. You only have to fight 1 boss to get to the last one.

    True
  • Sheezabeast
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    Will this negatively effect motif drops?
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  • MehrunesFlagon
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    That boss is easy if the group has a brian.Sure I'm going to see groups that insist on skipping though.
  • The_Protagonist
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    That boss is easy if the group has a brian.Sure I'm going to see groups that insist on skipping though.

    We never had a Brian in our group. :D
  • Erraln
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    That boss is easy if the group has a brian.Sure I'm going to see groups that insist on skipping though.

    We never had a Brian in our group. :D

    Lucky you.

    Seriously though Daz, take the video link off the post at least. People get the picture, and Zeni doesn't like it when people share methods through their own services, no matter how innocently you're doing so.
  • Tasear
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    Passed information a long about issue.
  • sevomd69
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    MakoFore wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Well, not a big deal, really, even with fact, that this is 2nd hardest (if not 1st) boss there.
    They didn't get the loot from that boss, just avoiding a fight with him.

    well it is given alot of people have and havent gotten their speed/no death achieves for that place- and that fight is the biggest impediment/challenge to both those achievements

    I believe you can't get speed and no death w/o fighting all the bosses...but I have been known to be wrong on occasion...
  • Konstant_Tel_Necris
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    Well if boss is requred for pledge what point to skip him?
    Besids there was other dungeons where bosses are skipable, I'm not sure is it exploit.
  • Drdeath20
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    That boss is actually easy but the entitre group has to know what they are doing.
  • code65536
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    MakoFore wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Well, not a big deal, really, even with fact, that this is 2nd hardest (if not 1st) boss there.
    They didn't get the loot from that boss, just avoiding a fight with him.

    well it is given alot of people have and havent gotten their speed/no death achieves for that place- and that fight is the biggest impediment/challenge to both those achievements

    The speed and nodeath achievements require killing everything in the dungeon. Even skipping a single mob will disqualify you. Plus, if a group is good enough to get the HM for Fang Lair, they shouldn't have any difficulty doing the menagerie no-death. I don't think this exploit benefits the crowd seeking the challenger achievement.

    That said, it does mean people who can't get past the menagerie (which is like most PUGs) can get past that and progress to the final boss for the helm/bust.
    Edited by code65536 on August 18, 2018 6:07AM
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    That boss is actually easy but the entitre group has to know what they are doing.

    Every boss is "easy" if your team knows what they're doing.

    This is still the hardest non-final dungeon boss in the game though, by a fairly wide margin (and I've no deathed it).
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on August 18, 2018 7:52AM
  • Houshiki
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    sevomd69 wrote: »
    MakoFore wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Well, not a big deal, really, even with fact, that this is 2nd hardest (if not 1st) boss there.
    They didn't get the loot from that boss, just avoiding a fight with him.

    well it is given alot of people have and havent gotten their speed/no death achieves for that place- and that fight is the biggest impediment/challenge to both those achievements

    I believe you can't get speed and no death w/o fighting all the bosses...but I have been known to be wrong on occasion...

    No, you're right. Speed and no-death requires beating all bosses and encounters in the dungeon. So it might be an exploit, but can't really be used for easy achievements.
    Edited by Houshiki on August 18, 2018 7:56AM
  • Thrain
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    maybe its not an exploit and he is not skipable
    maybe you cant open the other doors in this dungeon until you kill him.

    i made the experience that if you skip bosses in an dungeon...some of them are essential
    means without killing them you cant open the doors.

    ive never tried it in this dungeon but maybe its the same result
  • Armatesz
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    Aesthier wrote: »
    Best bet is to remove this from the forums and send it to support and talk to them.

    Posting it here could be seen as trying to share the exploit so as to hide behind the masses now attempting it due to your post.

    I would honestly leave it on so that others see it and it is more rushed to being fixed, it looks like it can be easily fixed with an invisible wall.
    Make sure your intent is not malicious in addressing your concern. As the intent is to make eso that much better.
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  • Cryptical
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    Thrain wrote: »
    maybe its not an exploit and he is not skipable
    maybe you cant open the other doors in this dungeon until you kill him.

    i made the experience that if you skip bosses in an dungeon...some of them are essential
    means without killing them you cant open the doors.

    ive never tried it in this dungeon but maybe its the same result

    This is plausible. Very plausible. You can run past the second boss in crypt of hearts 1 but if you do then a later door won’t open for you until you go all the way back and kill it.
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    Look like they removed ALL the invisible wall from this dungeon with Wolf-hunter launch.
  • Salvas_Aren
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    Cryptical wrote: »
    Thrain wrote: »
    maybe its not an exploit and he is not skipable
    maybe you cant open the other doors in this dungeon until you kill him.

    i made the experience that if you skip bosses in an dungeon...some of them are essential
    means without killing them you cant open the doors.

    ive never tried it in this dungeon but maybe its the same result

    This is plausible. Very plausible. You can run past the second boss in crypt of hearts 1 but if you do then a later door won’t open for you until you go all the way back and kill it.

    The same is true for Chokethorn in Elden Hollow 1. Jump off that root and skip 3 bosses in total. The 2 minors are no prob but if you skip that awful plant too, the gate to the final boss remains closed.
    Edited by Salvas_Aren on August 18, 2018 12:40PM
  • KingMagaw
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    Most dungeons can be exploited.


    Comes from poorly made content.
  • Mureel
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    MakoFore wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Well, not a big deal, really, even with fact, that this is 2nd hardest (if not 1st) boss there.
    They didn't get the loot from that boss, just avoiding a fight with him.

    well it is given alot of people have and havent gotten their speed/no death achieves for that place- and that fight is the biggest impediment/challenge to both those achievements

    Except you need both those defeated to get speed and no deaths.
  • ZOS_Ragnar
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    We have passed the information along to the appropriate team and removed the video and information that could be used by others to reproduce this effect.
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  • sevomd69
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    LOL...so I guess skipping bosses in Fungal 1 is an exploit too...
  • Salvas_Aren
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    sevomd69 wrote: »
    LOL...so I guess skipping bosses in Fungal 1 is an exploit too...

    They could ban 85% of the player population for that and improve server performance. :p
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    Mureel wrote: »
    MakoFore wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Well, not a big deal, really, even with fact, that this is 2nd hardest (if not 1st) boss there.
    They didn't get the loot from that boss, just avoiding a fight with him.

    well it is given alot of people have and havent gotten their speed/no death achieves for that place- and that fight is the biggest impediment/challenge to both those achievements

    Except you need both those defeated to get speed and no deaths.

    Yeah that was changed with Fair Lair and Scalecaller
  • eso_lags
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    lol these threads always get such a speedy response... All those performance threads tho :trollface:
  • Saucy_Jack
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    That boss is easy if the group has a brian.Sure I'm going to see groups that insist on skipping though.

    Was his father's name Naughtius Maximus, by any chance?
    Edited by Saucy_Jack on August 19, 2018 5:36AM
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  • Ackwalan
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    I don't think it is an exploit to skip a boss, you can do that in a number of delves. But I do believe, going around a locked door is an exploit. So if this get fixed/changed, it's because of the door and not skipping the boss.
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