Hello from the Lead Gameplay Designer

fatmanatcomp

Ragebull wrote: »

Everybody complains left and right about issues but the moment a dev pops up everyone brown noses lmao

I would ask about the pvp lag and all the bugs in Cyro, will they ever be fixed, i soooo tired of being ignored. Was a thread about a bag that couldn’t be looted, that got an answer.

They have made poor in Cyro the norm because they have shown they can make it a lot worse in there. Look we have given you back poor instead of unplayable. Be grateful

Kalante

Tell wrobel that pvp is terrible, there is nothing enjoyable about being snared 24/7.

Rungar

ideas that work well in this game:

-armor system
-skill line system
-synergy system
-skillbar system

ideas that don't work or work poorly

-class/race systems
-overuse of one shot mechanics
-macro promoting rotation combat
-boss oriented gameplay

solutions

-scale back class/race system to be more in line with the skillline system.

Race: i.e rather than giving high elves innate mag regen have mag regen as a trainable skill line for all players, where high elves get a small bonus to that. Do the same for all critical(combat) bonuses.
Class: a skill line based subclass system for veteran players to trade out certain skillines for other lines from other classes at some basic cost. Maintaining 3 "core" lines. Get rid of global class passives for skilline pasives with some checks and balances for similar and dissimilar skill lines.

one shots: add in ways for players to at least work toward deactivating one shot mechanics if they must be used.

macro promoting rotation combat: add in more conditional dps reliant on exploiting specific conditions rather than timer efficiency/ light attack filler spam

bosses: the whole dungeon should be interesting not just the boss fight. There are many ways to make the dungeon fun without putting all the challenge on the bossfight.

thats about it. it is a great game.

one other note: basic evolution of systems for instance adding a utility slot common to both skillbars as an evolution of the skillbar system or veteran skillines that have requirements to slot abilities from multiple skill lines for use of abilities. To keep the working systems fresh.

ZarkingFrued

@ZOS_RobGarrett welcome to ps4 na ESO! Here's a pro tip for ya. Go to your ps4 console settings and reroute your left d pad button (weapon swap) to the R3 toggle stick (defaulted to sneak) and vice versa. Now you dont have to stop moving mid fight to use your left thumb to swap weapon bars, which happens constantly in PVP. Not having this routed correctly leads to constant death VS decent players. Maybe we could see some more support for button assignment in the future so we can assign weapon swap to R3 and still be able to use the left d pad button to go left in my ps4 menus and maybe even left in eso menus. Gets confusing remembering r3 is left lol. Anyhow, you said you were looking to see the console experiance, and that will help you get an idea of complications we have and how we get past them.

OutLaw_Nynx

Welcome to the Wild West of the ESO world lol.

ZOS_JesC

Greetings. We've had to remove several nonconstructive and bashing comments. This is a reminder to keep comments constructive and civil. Please review our forum rules before posting. Thank you for your understanding.

Avran_Sylt

Fantastic to have you!

Hope you're able to cultivate constructive discussion on this forum!

As well as being able to enlighten people about the fact that ZoS employees are not robots who're expected to be perfect at every moment of the day! (yet also advocating that behind the scenes).

I hope you don't get jaded by those who're already jaded (in terms of community communication), and are able to share ideas as they develop down the road.

Good luck, and God speed.

Vanthras79

ZOS_RobGarrett wrote: »

And, of course, @ZOS_RichLambert oversees "all the things".

I am glad to see another person using quotes! Makes this one happy!

Vanthras79

So @ZOS_RobGarrett are you saying you want to be tagged more in interesting forum posts?

Strider__Roshin

Such an awesome thread. Welcome to the team Rob!

LadyLavina

@ZOS_RobGarrett

Greetings. Assuming that is indeed something you do in a genuine way, wonderful, the community will welcome you with open arms.

If this is something ZOS is having you do in a super scripted controlled way so they can say they're "engaging" with us (after 4 years) , the community will know it and it will be called out immediately.

I hope it is the first of these things, as from your initial post it sounds like you're a real stand up guy and genuinely care about things.

ZOS_JesC

Greetings, we've removed a few more nonconstructive comments that are off topic. Please keep posts relevant to this thread and constructive.

Beardimus

Great intro, it's great to see more of the ZOS team on the forum and engaging. Tough job as a lot to read / filter here.

But regardless good luck

Joy_Division

Hello and welcome!

JinMori

Wasn't the lead designer Wrobel?

Vanthras79

@ZOS_RobGarrett the charge time for the inferno destruction staff seems longer than other weapons. Is there any chance that this will be re-evaluated in the future?

Elsonso

JinMori wrote: »

Wasn't the lead designer Wrobel?

No. Wrobel is the Lead Combat Designer. Basically, works under Garrett. Figuratively speaking, not literally.

I am not sure who Rob Garrett replaces. That last Lead Gameplay Designer that I knew by name was Chris Strasz, but he left that position a couple years back. Before him it was Nick Konkle. It is possible that no one filled that position between Strasz and Garrett. (Edit: which would probably mean Lambert did it) Morrowind lists no one in that role in the credits.

Androconium

One big green tick.

LegendaryMage

@ZOS_RobGarrett Welcome bud. Tell them to make us a 1v1 PVP arena, pretty please with sugar on top.

Morgul667

Nice ! Welcome here

ZOS_RobGarrett

SlippyCheeze wrote: »

Welcome, and thank you for stepping up into the harsh glare of publicity. Since you were at Riot, I'm sure you heard GhostCrawler talking about the less fun times it'll bring, as well as the good ones.

If I may, I'd suggest the most important change to make to this is to tell us, explicitly, how you want the community to talk to you. I suspect that you probably don't want a nice @ZOS_RobGarrett tag every time someone is grumpy about any aspect of gameplay. By being explicit, at least there is some chance that the appropriate community norms will be established.

It'd also be a big help, selfishly, if you laid out what makes for good and useful feedback from your perspective. I, uh, could also say that there are a few things I'd like to see changed, but as "not a ZOS employee", I'd like to know how to make my "just a player" feedback as useful as possible ... and of course, "as convincing as possible"

When it comes to giving feedback, the only hard rules are those stated in the Community Terms of Service. That being said, off the top of my head, a few pieces of advice are:

• Avoid speculation and assuming intent, but feel free to ask about it.
• Clearly described, and well researched, problems are usually more valuable to us than proposed solutions.
• Don't forget to acknowledge changes and additions you enjoy. This is not about giving us praise but rather helping us identify success and successful patterns.
• Don't be a jerk. =P

Valrien

@ZOS_RobGarrett

One more thing. Do you know Nick Konkle from Riot?

Rungar wrote: »

ideas that work well in this game:

-armor system
-skill line system
-synergy system
-skillbar system

ideas that don't work or work poorly

-class/race systems
-overuse of one shot mechanics
-macro promoting rotation combat
-boss oriented gameplay

solutions

-scale back class/race system to be more in line with the skillline system.

Race: i.e rather than giving high elves innate mag regen have mag regen as a trainable skill line for all players, where high elves get a small bonus to that. Do the same for all critical(combat) bonuses.
Class: a skill line based subclass system for veteran players to trade out certain skillines for other lines from other classes at some basic cost. Maintaining 3 "core" lines. Get rid of global class passives for skilline pasives with some checks and balances for similar and dissimilar skill lines.

one shots: add in ways for players to at least work toward deactivating one shot mechanics if they must be used.

macro promoting rotation combat: add in more conditional dps reliant on exploiting specific conditions rather than timer efficiency/ light attack filler spam

bosses: the whole dungeon should be interesting not just the boss fight. There are many ways to make the dungeon fun without putting all the challenge on the bossfight.

thats about it. it is a great game.

one other note: basic evolution of systems for instance adding a utility slot common to both skillbars as an evolution of the skillbar system or veteran skillines that have requirements to slot abilities from multiple skill lines for use of abilities. To keep the working systems fresh.

Tbh once you bring up macros you lose every single big of credibility. If you think macros are good in any way or give even a slight advantage then you blatantly do not know what you're talking about

geonsocal

best of luck...the not being a jerk thing - is gonna take some work

DuskMarine

ZOS_RobGarrett wrote: »

Hey everyone!

I just wanted to take an opportunity to introduce myself here on the forums. I'm the Lead Gameplay Designer on ESO, overseeing the Systems, Combat, PvP, and User Interface teams. Some of you may have seen me on ESO Live last month. I was a little nervous in the beginning of the show if you couldn't tell. =P

I've been working in games for 15 years, most recently having spent 7 at Riot Games working on League of Legends and several smaller games in the LoL universe. I joined ZOS in January and started playing ESO about a year ago. Obviously many of you have been playing the game much longer and have acquired a wealth of knowledge and expertise during that time. ESO is a huge game, and I won't claim to have the same depth of knowledge as someone who's been actively playing since beta.

I do, however, play pretty much every day (I recently switched from PC to console to get better visibility into that experience) and scan the forums and Reddit when time permits. I also lean on the knowledge and experience of the great teams and people here at ZOS who've been hammering on ESO for about a decade. To be clear, my role here is less about making specific changes or improvements to the product and more about helping our teams improve how we work and communicate, both with each other and with you - the players. That being said, I'd be lying if I said there aren't specific aspects of the game I'd like to improve.

My intent is to start posting here on the forums more regularly and, in time, provide more insight into how we think about Gameplay design. My days are already pretty busy (it turns out shipping an update every 3 months leads to a pretty aggressive development schedule!) but I will engage when I can. I'm also certain Gina will find opportunities to poke me for a response.

ESO is a great game. I wouldn't have joined the team if I didn't believe that, and it's exciting to have a hand in shaping the game for the coming years. I'm happy to be here and am looking forward to hearing from you!

honestly instead of engaging in just banter on here how about zos holds a tournament with players in the game(not specifically chosen just anyone who wants to join the instance to rule out paid off foul play) and we show yall whats wrong with this game? its alot easier to show yall than to report it to be completely honest.

Morgul667

Cyrodill could use some love
Loading screens as well

DuskMarine

ZOS_RobGarrett wrote: »

SlippyCheeze wrote: »

Welcome, and thank you for stepping up into the harsh glare of publicity. Since you were at Riot, I'm sure you heard GhostCrawler talking about the less fun times it'll bring, as well as the good ones.

If I may, I'd suggest the most important change to make to this is to tell us, explicitly, how you want the community to talk to you. I suspect that you probably don't want a nice @ZOS_RobGarrett tag every time someone is grumpy about any aspect of gameplay. By being explicit, at least there is some chance that the appropriate community norms will be established.

It'd also be a big help, selfishly, if you laid out what makes for good and useful feedback from your perspective. I, uh, could also say that there are a few things I'd like to see changed, but as "not a ZOS employee", I'd like to know how to make my "just a player" feedback as useful as possible ... and of course, "as convincing as possible"

When it comes to giving feedback, the only hard rules are those stated in the Community Terms of Service. That being said, off the top of my head, a few pieces of advice are:

• Avoid speculation and assuming intent, but feel free to ask about it.
• Clearly described, and well researched, problems are usually more valuable to us than proposed solutions.
• Don't forget to acknowledge changes and additions you enjoy. This is not about giving us praise but rather helping us identify success and successful patterns.
• Don't be a jerk. =P

@ZOS_RobGarrett the bad thing is it feels like devs tend to not care what get posted on here. instead of reporting itd be so much better to just show yall in the game ourselves face to face that way we know yall are seeing how busted some things are for yourselves. thus is why everyone would much rather resort to just giving yall the most vulgar feedback ever cause it just feels like no matter what were ignored or censored regardless. so i honestly propose instead of taking reports on here why not do it through ingame activities to see what gameplay is actually doing instead of just taking stuff by word of mouth. we can show you how unbalanced some things are and how busted other things are as well as how useless alot of other things as well are.

Malacthulhu

Can we get a cross platform test server and umm welcome to the comunity Rob lol.

Ragnarock41

ZOS_RobGarrett wrote: »

SlippyCheeze wrote: »

Welcome, and thank you for stepping up into the harsh glare of publicity. Since you were at Riot, I'm sure you heard GhostCrawler talking about the less fun times it'll bring, as well as the good ones.

If I may, I'd suggest the most important change to make to this is to tell us, explicitly, how you want the community to talk to you. I suspect that you probably don't want a nice @ZOS_RobGarrett tag every time someone is grumpy about any aspect of gameplay. By being explicit, at least there is some chance that the appropriate community norms will be established.

It'd also be a big help, selfishly, if you laid out what makes for good and useful feedback from your perspective. I, uh, could also say that there are a few things I'd like to see changed, but as "not a ZOS employee", I'd like to know how to make my "just a player" feedback as useful as possible ... and of course, "as convincing as possible"

When it comes to giving feedback, the only hard rules are those stated in the Community Terms of Service. That being said, off the top of my head, a few pieces of advice are:

• Avoid speculation and assuming intent, but feel free to ask about it.
• Clearly described, and well researched, problems are usually more valuable to us than proposed solutions.
• Don't forget to acknowledge changes and additions you enjoy. This is not about giving us praise but rather helping us identify success and successful patterns.
• Don't be a jerk. =P

I fail miserably at not being a jerk sometimes.

Either way , Welcome again and I really hope you enjoy PvP as much as we do.

I always tell that devs should play more PvP so that we can empathise better. Hope you will be the positive change this game needs!

DanteYoda

geonsocal wrote: »

best of luck...the not being a jerk thing - is gonna take some work

I was just thinking, welp thats me out...

Aurie

Hello and welcome