Unofficial Summerset Furnishing Plan Farm Nerf Discussion

LadyDestiny · July 2018

If zeni thinks your are having too much fun, they will nerf it.

SantieClaws · July 2018

Is this perhaps the time for the emergence of SOWP (Save Our Wardrobes Please)?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Emathides · July 2018

weedgenius wrote: »

Traitor’s Vault WILL be nerfed. I guarantee they won’t change their minds on this one because the datamine shows that Summerset furnishing packs are coming to the Crown Store. They don’t want you farming these plans anymore because if you can easily get them yourself or buy them in guild stores, you won’t spend Crowns.

It is really suss that the nerf comes in at the same time as these packs.

Ragged_Claw · July 2018

It was kind of people to post their farming locations here, but I think in future we should work out a system of communicating these things secretly, maybe in coded language so that the evil overlords can't nerf our fun in order to prop up their rotten cash store.

Kuramas9tails · July 2018

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Edit: Fixed an issue where the Traitor's Vault had an excessive number of lootable wardrobes

Fixed an issue where people were having fun and actually getting blueprints instead of grinding in anguish.

Which makes no sense to me why it would even be a bother to ZOS? Like, how is this hurting the game? The player base?

YamiKuruku · July 2018

So sad they nerf it
I got alot of lockpicks nice blueprints out of it and recipes that i didn't know yet (and the ones i knew shared with my girlfriend) , even helped her decor her home with the Alinor stuff and now they take away the lil fun
Not everyone tries to sell stuff like that high as hell to others :c

Lord_Wrath · July 2018

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Edit: Fixed an issue where the Traitor's Vault had an excessive number of lootable wardrobes

Fixed an issue where people were having fun and actually getting blueprints instead of grinding in anguish.

Which makes no sense to me why it would even be a bother to ZOS? Like, how is this hurting the game? The player base?

You look around for a few years and you really question what is wrong with these peoples heads. Zos has plenty to give to have you scratch your head at.

angelncelestine · July 2018

Here I thought ZOS made that room intentionally so people could farm it. I thought just maybe they listened to people’s feedback after all of the complaints about the horrible Morrowind grind. It was nice to finally be able to farm an area, and get nice stuff occasionally. What a disappointment. They literally just keep sucking the fun from there game.

Kalik_Gold · July 2018

How long til patch?

Cpt_Teemo · July 2018

Kalik_Gold wrote: »

How long til patch?

5 weeks from Pts, so about a month and 1 week

Numerikuu · July 2018

*sigh*

weedgenius · July 2018

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

Which makes no sense to me why it would even be a bother to ZOS? Like, how is this hurting the game? The player base?

It’s not hurting the game but it will hurt Crown sales because Summerset furnishing packs are going to be in the Crown Store next update. That’s why they care.

Linaleah · July 2018

dear ZoS. remember how players complained and complained and complained about droprates of vvardenfel patterns? remember how disenchanted we were getting with those droprates and housing in general? remember how it was affecting the sales of houses themselves? remember how you increased acquisition of those patterns eventually?

please please please don't do to summerset furniture what you did to vvardenfel. don't make us give up on housing. becasue if you think we'll just buy stuff with crowns instead? most of us will not. most of us will just stop buying crown only houses instead. they are difficult enough to decorate as it is.

this nerf is not helping anyone, its making things worse for everyone. please revert it before patch goes live. thank you

Linaleah · July 2018

DamenAJ wrote: »

inclinations wrote: »

No real need for a nerf it doesn't drop that much. I've seen 1 blue and 1 purple since summerset launch from going there occasionally while I gained a full stack of lock picks. Its mostly white gear 0 value junk that comes from them.

This one is sort of insignificant zos, so many other things need to be addressed.

I imagine the nerf is because some people are chuck all their characters in there, do the loop on 1 character, log out, do it on the next character, rinse and repeat. This can be done indefinitely. Purple furniture recipes used to sell 300k~ now I see them for 60k~ But, they were new and shiny, now they people who want them ASAP have them, and they're balancing out.

They don't want anything to be too easy to just... grind. Which. Bleh. Tends to hurt people who aren't even grinding.

this is no different from what people did with Hleran or Dreloth tomb in VVardenfel. this is NOT a bad thing. this doesn't actualy hurt people who don't grind, on the contrary - it HELPS people who don't grind or have bad rng, because it makes recipes actualy affordable to buy off other people.

Shazanti · July 2018

4+ stacks of lockpicks (I kept them, to keep track). Loads of green provisioning recipes. A double handful of blue ones and old world motif books. A double handful of white/green pre-Summerset furniture recipes. Zero Alinor furniture anything. Yeah, this spot as been so great for me, I've gotten so much from it, it's broke the game and requires patching. I know my RNG is bad, and I'm glad to see other people have had better luck, but I just kept doing this spot over and over because I wanted - and hoped to eventually get - something worth the time spent there. Mind you, I don't farm it religiously, I only hit it a handful of times a day (I'm also doing the same thing with CWC but omg there's just nowhere good in CWC, and what I get there is never CWC stuff anyway), but I wanted something worth the bother, and just haven't yet. Now it looks like I likely never will. Such is how it always goes. I'd just like happy surprise once to make up for all the soul crushing disappointment. Boo.

Katahdin · July 2018

I've gotten nothing but crap
Lockpicks
Water
Style stones
Ash
White armor/weaps
Blue motifs

lionofjudah7 · July 2018

Aliyavana wrote: »

Edit: Fixed an issue where the Traitor's Vault had an excessive number of lootable wardrobes. You all gotta farm it fast before the nerf next patch

My goal is to help with putting out the housing furnishings out in the streets in order to help reduce the price massively asap so that we don't have to pay 20k per furnishing nor 100k plus for a recipe, and so that they don't stay as rare as vvardenfell's furnishings did for months. inside the traitors vault in arteaum, there is a circle of 20 wardrobes around the area I highlighted loot them all for a chance at furnishings. If any other locations that are farmable please post here so that we may put more furnishings out there in the market

credit to my friend @mureel for having a good eye while we were questing together

You dont even realize but you nerfed this spot for yourself and everyone else when you came to the forums blabbing about it and exposing it .

Oh the irony

lionofjudah7 · July 2018

Shoulda stayed quiet n let ppl stack their gold in peace

Aliyavana · July 2018

lionofjudah7 wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

Edit: Fixed an issue where the Traitor's Vault had an excessive number of lootable wardrobes. You all gotta farm it fast before the nerf next patch

My goal is to help with putting out the housing furnishings out in the streets in order to help reduce the price massively asap so that we don't have to pay 20k per furnishing nor 100k plus for a recipe, and so that they don't stay as rare as vvardenfell's furnishings did for months. inside the traitors vault in arteaum, there is a circle of 20 wardrobes around the area I highlighted loot them all for a chance at furnishings. If any other locations that are farmable please post here so that we may put more furnishings out there in the market

credit to my friend @mureel for having a good eye while we were questing together

You dont even realize but you nerfed this spot for yourself and everyone else when you came to the forums blabbing about it and exposing it .

Oh the irony

its ok, we ended up dropping the prices of recipes from 300k to 60k range

DamenAJ · July 2018

Linaleah wrote: »

DamenAJ wrote: »

inclinations wrote: »

No real need for a nerf it doesn't drop that much. I've seen 1 blue and 1 purple since summerset launch from going there occasionally while I gained a full stack of lock picks. Its mostly white gear 0 value junk that comes from them.

This one is sort of insignificant zos, so many other things need to be addressed.

I imagine the nerf is because some people are chuck all their characters in there, do the loop on 1 character, log out, do it on the next character, rinse and repeat. This can be done indefinitely. Purple furniture recipes used to sell 300k~ now I see them for 60k~ But, they were new and shiny, now they people who want them ASAP have them, and they're balancing out.

They don't want anything to be too easy to just... grind. Which. Bleh. Tends to hurt people who aren't even grinding.

this is no different from what people did with Hleran or Dreloth tomb in VVardenfel. this is NOT a bad thing. this doesn't actualy hurt people who don't grind, on the contrary - it HELPS people who don't grind or have bad rng, because it makes recipes actualy affordable to buy off other people.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, although I can totally see if coming off that way. Power to the people who can grind endlessly. You guys do indeed help lower the prices for people who want to buy, and help get these plans into the market. However, you also Inadvertently cause nerfs, in situations like this. It sucks, because you guys are just doing what you do, I'm sure most of you are not trying to take advantage of the game or the players. But it does negatively effect you guys, and people like me (Who half-heartily farm every now and then, because we're cheapskates and like to be self-reliant).

DarcyMardin · July 2018

So I decided to try the “take a bunch of alts to the farm spot” routine. Easy to do because half the folks in my guild were in there already. I quit after running 5 alts thru the place. I had my usual RNG luck—countless lockpicks, some style stones, 3 or 4 *white* furniture recipes, an Argonian motif book that I’ve had on all characters since 2014, a few pieces of useless 0-gold value armor, and a couple of old green food recipes.

Why they are nerfing this is more than I can fathom. But I feel bad for my friends whose luck there has been better than mine.

lagrue · July 2018

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Edit: Fixed an issue where the Traitor's Vault had an excessive number of lootable wardrobes

Fixed an issue where people were having fun and actually getting blueprints instead of grinding in anguish.

Which makes no sense to me why it would even be a bother to ZOS? Like, how is this hurting the game? The player base?

It doesn't hurt the game or players - it hurts ZOS profits when they plan to sell this crap to us.

Khaleesi8688 · July 2018

Aliyavana wrote: »

lionofjudah7 wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

Edit: Fixed an issue where the Traitor's Vault had an excessive number of lootable wardrobes. You all gotta farm it fast before the nerf next patch

My goal is to help with putting out the housing furnishings out in the streets in order to help reduce the price massively asap so that we don't have to pay 20k per furnishing nor 100k plus for a recipe, and so that they don't stay as rare as vvardenfell's furnishings did for months. inside the traitors vault in arteaum, there is a circle of 20 wardrobes around the area I highlighted loot them all for a chance at furnishings. If any other locations that are farmable please post here so that we may put more furnishings out there in the market

credit to my friend @mureel for having a good eye while we were questing together

You dont even realize but you nerfed this spot for yourself and everyone else when you came to the forums blabbing about it and exposing it .

Oh the irony

its ok, we ended up dropping the prices of recipes from 300k to 60k range

You owe me gold then

The one thing I have good RNG with and it's not even that lucrative anymore.

rumple9 · July 2018

Honestly the wardrobe search isn't worth your game time

anadandy · July 2018

<tinhat>

I still think they stealth nerfed these a while ago. The first few weeks of Summerset I was pulling decent plans, all the wardrobes were lootable, I even found two gold Imperial books (none in 3 years and I get TWO). I mean yeah, still a ton of lockpicks and style stones, but I could usually get out of there with a few decent things.

Then, 1/4-1/3 of the wardobes started spawning empty, lockpicks and 0 value white gear. Occasionally a couple blue vanilla recipes. Maybe it was just the increase in people looting, who knows but the ROI definitely dropped.

</tinhat>

DamenAJ · July 2018

anadandy wrote: »

<tinhat>

I still think they stealth nerfed these a while ago. The first few weeks of Summerset I was pulling decent plans, all the wardrobes were lootable, I even found two gold Imperial books (none in 3 years and I get TWO). I mean yeah, still a ton of lockpicks and style stones, but I could usually get out of there with a few decent things.

Then, 1/4-1/3 of the wardobes started spawning empty, lockpicks and 0 value white gear. Occasionally a couple blue vanilla recipes. Maybe it was just the increase in people looting, who knows but the ROI definitely dropped.

</tinhat>

To be fair, I got 2 imperial motifs within like 3 days in the gold coast, when before that I hadn't ever got it before in 2 years of playing... So... RNG?

KraziJoe · July 2018

Aliyavana wrote: »

lionofjudah7 wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

Edit: Fixed an issue where the Traitor's Vault had an excessive number of lootable wardrobes. You all gotta farm it fast before the nerf next patch

My goal is to help with putting out the housing furnishings out in the streets in order to help reduce the price massively asap so that we don't have to pay 20k per furnishing nor 100k plus for a recipe, and so that they don't stay as rare as vvardenfell's furnishings did for months. inside the traitors vault in arteaum, there is a circle of 20 wardrobes around the area I highlighted loot them all for a chance at furnishings. If any other locations that are farmable please post here so that we may put more furnishings out there in the market

credit to my friend @mureel for having a good eye while we were questing together

You dont even realize but you nerfed this spot for yourself and everyone else when you came to the forums blabbing about it and exposing it .

Oh the irony

its ok, we ended up dropping the prices of recipes from 300k to 60k range

So what you're saying is hold on to the recipes until the nerf goes in and then sell them for 300K again?

SantieClaws · July 2018

Maybe only a song can reach them …

You nerfed the wardrobes
Our recipe ore nodes
Please give us them back
Hear this plea from a cat

Wardrobes made us happy
Even stuff that was ..cr .. not always good
Please reconsider your plan
We know that you can!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

rumple9 · July 2018

Honestly the wardrobe search isn't worth your game time

weedgenius · July 2018

anadandy wrote: »

<tinhat>

I still think they stealth nerfed these a while ago. The first few weeks of Summerset I was pulling decent plans, all the wardrobes were lootable, I even found two gold Imperial books (none in 3 years and I get TWO). I mean yeah, still a ton of lockpicks and style stones, but I could usually get out of there with a few decent things.

Then, 1/4-1/3 of the wardobes started spawning empty, lockpicks and 0 value white gear. Occasionally a couple blue vanilla recipes. Maybe it was just the increase in people looting, who knows but the ROI definitely dropped.

</tinhat>

I got 2 Imperial books last month as well!! Never got one before. I agree honestly, early on I got those books plus at least 5 or 6 purple Alinor, 10+ old purple, tons of Alinor blues and old blues. Nowadays I am lucky to get one old blue running all my characters through. I get that RNG is... well, random and this falls into the realm of the possible without it having been nerfed but the payout shift seems really dramatic.