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Any intention of addressing magsorc ganking?

  • ToRelax
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    Oh, it might be a problem in Summerset. But root of the problem is Empower working with Overload and resulting one-shots. Sure, Overload ganking will become more powerful, but so will in fight useage, arguably more with Rune Cage, actually. So I find it a little silly to complain about the ganking version when you don't even need it to one shot players with little to no counterplay. :joy:
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  • Feanor
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Oh, it might be a problem in Summerset. But root of the problem is Empower working with Overload and resulting one-shots. Sure, Overload ganking will become more powerful, but so will in fight useage, arguably more with Rune Cage, actually. So I find it a little silly to complain about the ganking version when you don't even need it to one shot players with little to no counterplay. :joy:

    It might, yes. But my point was: From ZOS PoV ganking or near one shots never were an issue worthy of adjustment. A while ago they scratched the bonus damage for attacking from stealth, and added stun protection to RML, and that was it. No further changes.

    For as long as NB had the ganking monopoly it never was an issue apparently regardless of the forum complaints. And now that the monopoly is broken apparently it’s an issue that needs to be addressed post haste somehow? To me it’s disingenuous to point to Sorc ganking while finding NB ganks totally ok.
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  • Beardimus
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    ^ agreed
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  • ToRelax
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    Feanor wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Oh, it might be a problem in Summerset. But root of the problem is Empower working with Overload and resulting one-shots. Sure, Overload ganking will become more powerful, but so will in fight useage, arguably more with Rune Cage, actually. So I find it a little silly to complain about the ganking version when you don't even need it to one shot players with little to no counterplay. :joy:

    It might, yes. But my point was: From ZOS PoV ganking or near one shots never were an issue worthy of adjustment. A while ago they scratched the bonus damage for attacking from stealth, and added stun protection to RML, and that was it. No further changes.

    For as long as NB had the ganking monopoly it never was an issue apparently regardless of the forum complaints. And now that the monopoly is broken apparently it’s an issue that needs to be addressed post haste somehow? To me it’s disingenuous to point to Sorc ganking while finding NB ganks totally ok.

    Well, NB never had a "ganking monopoly", it's just better at getting away afterwards or even hiding again after a failed attempt. But yes, complaining about sorc ganking in particular is very disingenuous. Especially if you consider it's easier to avoid in the first place because it's easier to hear in time. Which also makes me very not worried except for Rune Cage combos.
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  • Kilandros
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    Are NBs the only class allowed to gank? Seems silly to try to nerf a potential new Sorc playstyle before it even gets started. I get that the forumblades think they should get all the toys while everyone else gets nothing, but this is getting ridiculous.
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  • Strider__Roshin
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    Easy fixes:
    1) make it so empower doesn't work on overload.
    2) you cannot be hidden while overload is active.
  • Bergzorn
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    Can you imagine gankers that have to actually hide behind a rock or tree or corner to surprise their victim?

    Removing passive stealth from PvP would make for a better game IMO and the announcement would lead to great forum entertainment.
    no CP PvP PC/EU

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