PTS Patch Notes v4.0.2

Jimmy_The_Fixer

Since you're introducing a new major buff for weapon/spelldamage, why not give major courage to the powerful assault set? It's even in the same DLC as spell power cure and the Tel Var merchants could always use a little love.

ecru

Shadow of the Fallen will now teleport away sooner after spawning in.

Seriously? This is the worst mechanic imaginable for melee. These stupid things teleport around enough as it is. How about they not teleport at all? This isn't good raid design, it's just an annoyance that is going to do nothing but frustrate players as they try to attack something that arbitrarily teleports around.

Gan Xing

Cries wrote: »

Item set redesigns wasn't expecting that! Good work ZOS!

Unfortunately it was only redesigning sets that you would get in new trial... We need old sets that people don't use to be redesigned

Malamar1229

Do.you lose major courage if you step outside the air ring?

Smilesy

I ran into a glitch when talking to Edgar Jend the first time, the camera slowly panned into the wrong angle.

Vapirko

Is the LA/HA change on top of what was changed last patch notes? Or are they starting over and blanket nerfing everyhitng? They are *** 2H users if it’s on top of what came before.

LadyLethalla

STILL waiting on "Quality of Life" improvements for us poor console peasants.
Beginning to look like holding my breath in anticipation will just lead to asphyxiation.

Come on... PLEASE... Guild Trader search function, inventory sorting and Reply To on email are just THREE requested implementations that would make our game time SO much more enjoyable.
@ZOS_RichLambert

mr_wazzabi

Vapirko wrote: »

Is the LA/HA change on top of what was changed last patch notes? Or are they starting over and blanket nerfing everyhitng? They are *** 2H users if it’s on top of what came before.

Looks like zos hates 2h

ecru

Tsukiino wrote: »

Perfect Relequen set is currently bugged & the 5 piece is not working properly.

can verify this, glad i wasted the time to try to test it, lol

finalsoldier117

The vestment of olorime set does not proc off of soul siphon or combat prayer not sure if that is right because the animation for both does show it being cast on the ground its just not an over time ability

Mystrius_Archaion

LadyLethalla wrote: »

STILL waiting on "Quality of Life" improvements for us poor console peasants.
Beginning to look like holding my breath in anticipation will just lead to asphyxiation.

Come on... PLEASE... Guild Trader search function, inventory sorting and Reply To on email are just THREE requested implementations that would make our game time SO much more enjoyable.
@ZOS_RichLambert

This would also be great for gamepad mode UI on PC.

Juhasow

I dont know if someone mentioned that earlier but on PTS Mantle of Siroria still have 3 piece spell critical bonus instead of Minor Slayer and Arms of Relequen is not applying any additional dmg per stack.

Tasear

Now those are actually interesting sets.

Cronopoly

RoyJade wrote: »

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

I'm fairly certain they overwrote the additional Weapon Damage Scaling that WW Light Attacks had.

So, after some test I can confirm that. On a totally naked character (no cp, equipment, passives and only enough attribute outside of WW form to match the 0 attribute stamina of the WW form (10345 stamina in WW, tried 10289 and 10400 stam outside of WW), the damage of the light attack are exactly the same.
When I used a single handed gold weapon with no enchant 1335 (weapon damage in and out WW), the result were coherent with this conclusion.

For the actual numbers(non crit-crit) :

Bare fist
Human, 10289 (10400) stamina :
Light : 295-443 (299-448)
Heavy : 459-689 (464-697)

Werewolf, 10345 stamina :
Light : 297-445
Heavy : 475-712 + 237-356 cleave damage

One handed
Human, 10289 (10400) stamina :
Light : 697-1046 (701-1051)
Heavy : 1085-1628 (1090-1636)

Werewolf, 10345 stamina :
Light : 699-1048
Heavy : 1108-1678 + 559-838 cleave damage[/spoiler]

I'm logging on to test this crap further, granted the WW passive (2/2) gives 18% Weapon Damage, however WW has so many vulnerabilities there was always this tradeoff of raw LA/HA power. So now the one WW specific statement is alluding to this as being non intended for years?

Silver_Strider

Cronopoly wrote: »

RoyJade wrote: »

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

I'm fairly certain they overwrote the additional Weapon Damage Scaling that WW Light Attacks had.

So, after some test I can confirm that. On a totally naked character (no cp, equipment, passives and only enough attribute outside of WW form to match the 0 attribute stamina of the WW form (10345 stamina in WW, tried 10289 and 10400 stam outside of WW), the damage of the light attack are exactly the same.
When I used a single handed gold weapon with no enchant 1335 (weapon damage in and out WW), the result were coherent with this conclusion.

For the actual numbers(non crit-crit) :

Bare fist
Human, 10289 (10400) stamina :
Light : 295-443 (299-448)
Heavy : 459-689 (464-697)

Werewolf, 10345 stamina :
Light : 297-445
Heavy : 475-712 + 237-356 cleave damage

One handed
Human, 10289 (10400) stamina :
Light : 697-1046 (701-1051)
Heavy : 1085-1628 (1090-1636)

Werewolf, 10345 stamina :
Light : 699-1048
Heavy : 1108-1678 + 559-838 cleave damage[/spoiler]

I'm logging on to test this crap further, granted the WW passive (2/2) gives 18% Weapon Damage, however WW has so many vulnerabilities there was always this tradeoff of raw LA/HA power. So now the one WW specific statement is alluding to this as being non intended for years?

When will you Werewolves learn.
Asking for bug fixes always gets you nerfed.

casparian

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Cronopoly wrote: »

RoyJade wrote: »

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

I'm fairly certain they overwrote the additional Weapon Damage Scaling that WW Light Attacks had.

So, after some test I can confirm that. On a totally naked character (no cp, equipment, passives and only enough attribute outside of WW form to match the 0 attribute stamina of the WW form (10345 stamina in WW, tried 10289 and 10400 stam outside of WW), the damage of the light attack are exactly the same.
When I used a single handed gold weapon with no enchant 1335 (weapon damage in and out WW), the result were coherent with this conclusion.

For the actual numbers(non crit-crit) :

Bare fist
Human, 10289 (10400) stamina :
Light : 295-443 (299-448)
Heavy : 459-689 (464-697)

Werewolf, 10345 stamina :
Light : 297-445
Heavy : 475-712 + 237-356 cleave damage

One handed
Human, 10289 (10400) stamina :
Light : 697-1046 (701-1051)
Heavy : 1085-1628 (1090-1636)

Werewolf, 10345 stamina :
Light : 699-1048
Heavy : 1108-1678 + 559-838 cleave damage[/spoiler]

I'm logging on to test this crap further, granted the WW passive (2/2) gives 18% Weapon Damage, however WW has so many vulnerabilities there was always this tradeoff of raw LA/HA power. So now the one WW specific statement is alluding to this as being non intended for years?

When will you Werewolves learn.
Asking for bug fixes always gets you nerfed.

Am Templar, can confirm.

SydneyGrey

Can you please consider adding a dagger to the Ilambris Arms set? Dual-wielding swords just doesn't look good. Thanks.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Temeraire507 wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Temeraire507 wrote: »

Vestment of Olorime vs SPC looks interesting. SPC is triggered by any overheal. Vestment of Olorime is bound to a ground based AoE over 10sec to grant the buff, although granting it for 30sec once it hits. What is better may require testing (for example whether it can hit more than 6 people)

1 Orb will process SPC on all 12 people

Good to know

Spc from one healer can only proc on 6 people or pets max per healer wearing the set. Even if you heal all 12. This is why it is you need both healers in trials running it. Orbs can only heal 6 people or pets per tick as well. If orbs and spc are not acting like this, it is most likely a bug.

sandelius

Hutch679 wrote: »

templesus wrote: »

Heres to hoping that NEXT WEEK will bring stamplar buffs...

Hahaha like stamplar really needs a buff. Good one!

They need a resource buff. The dmg is great tho.

ShadowHvo

Are the EU characters copied this round?

SydneyGrey

Whoah ... why is Charging Maneuver now costing 8100 stamina?!?! It wasn't that high before, was it? (Edit: apparently it WAS that high before, so maybe Altmer's base stamina got nerfed instead.)

I just made a max-level Altmer magicka NB and she only has 7958 stamina total, so she can't even use Charging Maneuver at all now. I've never had that happen before. I should be able to put all her points into magicka and still be able to use Charging Maneuver. I really hope this was just an oversight.

Did Maneuver get more costly, or did the starting stamina on Altmers get nerfed? Because this sucks A LOT.

SirCritical

Checkmath wrote: »

Cries wrote: »

Item set redesigns wasn't expecting that! Good work ZOS!

a lot of old sets also need redesigns...pls consider those sets too.

This.

LeHarrt91

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Whoah ... why is Charging Maneuver now costing 8100 stamina?!?! It wasn't that high before, was it?

I just made a max-level Altmer magicka NB and she only has 7958 stamina total, so she can't even use Charging Maneuver at all now. I've never had that happen before. I should be able to put all her points into magicka and still be able to use Charging Maneuver. I really hope this was just an oversight.

Yes it was, i remember going into no CP campaign and not being able to cast it. Are you on PTS?

SydneyGrey

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Yes it was, i remember going into no CP campaign and not being able to cast it. Are you on PTS?

Yes, on PTS.

LeHarrt91

SydneyGrey wrote: »

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Yes it was, i remember going into no CP campaign and not being able to cast it. Are you on PTS?

Yes, on PTS.

Maybe its something on the PTS, as i know on live without undaunted i have 9.7K stamina and can cast rapids at 8.1k cost.

NinchiTV

daaaaamn the dps set gives 600 spell power altogether? finally a reason to grind pve for a bit, looking forward to that set.

Septimus_Magna

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Mantle of Siroria: This Item Set has been redesigned.

• OLD:
  • 2: Spell Damage
  • 3: Spell Critical
  • 4: Max Magicka
  • 5: After dealing damage to an enemy with a single target ability, you create a ring of fire beneath your target. After 1 second, the ring ignites enemies within it, dealing 2408 Flame Damage every 1 second for 5 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.
• NEW:
  • 2: Spell Damage
  • 3: Minor Slayer
  • 4: Max Magicka
  • 5: Dealing direct damage with a single target ability creates a ring of fire beneath you for 10 seconds. Standing in the ring grants you a stack of Siroria’s Boon for 5 seconds. Each increases your Spell Damage by 30. 20 stacks max.

This set just became very interesting, 30 spell dmg x 20 stacks is a massive 600 spell dmg. The direct dmg can stack very quickly if you use Force Pulse because its 3+1 direct hits per weave, Jabs probably works even better.

Good work on the redesign of the trail sets, most look pretty interesting now!

SydneyGrey

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Maybe its something on the PTS, as i know on live without undaunted i have 9.7K stamina and can cast rapids at 8.1k cost.

Maybe they nerfed the amount of stamina that High Elves start with, if they didn't raise the cost of Maneuver. NOT A GOOD MOVE, zos.

The Uninvited

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Mantle of Siroria: This Item Set has been redesigned.

• OLD:
  • 2: Spell Damage
  • 3: Spell Critical
  • 4: Max Magicka
  • 5: After dealing damage to an enemy with a single target ability, you create a ring of fire beneath your target. After 1 second, the ring ignites enemies within it, dealing 2408 Flame Damage every 1 second for 5 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.
• NEW:
  • 2: Spell Damage
  • 3: Minor Slayer
  • 4: Max Magicka
  • 5: Dealing direct damage with a single target ability creates a ring of fire beneath you for 10 seconds. Standing in the ring grants you a stack of Siroria’s Boon for 5 seconds. Each increases your Spell Damage by 30. 20 stacks max.

This set just became very interesting, 30 spell dmg x 20 stacks is a massive 600 spell dmg. The direct dmg can stack very quickly if you use Force Pulse because its 3+1 direct hits per weave, Jabs probably works even better.

Good work on the redesign of the trail sets, most look pretty interesting now!

I liked how it was better. Would give DK some range and procced Skoria.

glavius

SydneyGrey wrote: »

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Maybe its something on the PTS, as i know on live without undaunted i have 9.7K stamina and can cast rapids at 8.1k cost.

Maybe they nerfed the amount of stamina that High Elves start with, if they didn't raise the cost of Maneuver. NOT A GOOD MOVE, zos.

No they didn't. You forgot to allocate you cp