Spell 5 skills in less then 1 secound...

Iskras

There is a great mystery in the mechanics of the game for me to date, how can some players - always the same - spell 5 skills in less than a second?

Curiously, this is always the case with the same players. I really need to learn this ... or ZOS could make it more 'democratic'.

-_-

VaranisArano

Its easy, and I'll he glad to share my secret with you: LAG.

Everytime I seem to get hit with a ton of abilities at once, its because of lag.

(Now, thats not to completely eliminate the possibility that my opponents are nefarious individuals using nefarious programs to cheat nefariously. That does happen. But in my case, I choose to blame my rural internet because I live next to a bean field, across from a corn field, with a cow pasture out the other way.)

Taylor_MB

Three easy ones off the top of my head
Curse, Fury, LA, Frag, Implosion
Dive, Sub Assault, Crit Rush, LA, Bash
Snipe, Snipe, Ambush, LA, Enchant

What are you getting hit by that you cannot understand? There is likely a very simple rotation to pull it off. A combat log with time stamps is better than death recap.

Joy_Division

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Three easy ones off the top of my head
Curse, Fury, LA, Frag, Implosion
Dive, Sub Assault, Crit Rush, LA, Bash
Snipe, Snipe, Ambush, LA, Enchant

What are you getting hit by that you cannot understand? There is likely a very simple rotation to pull it off. A combat log with time stamps is better than death recap.

Might as well add Eclipse, Purifying Light[any Templar skill[}, light attack, enchant. Use Blazing spear and it's 6 hits. Throw in meteor and it's 7. Valkyn Proc and it's 8.

Iskras

VaranisArano wrote: »

Its easy, and I'll he glad to share my secret with you: LAG.

Everytime I seem to get hit with a ton of abilities at once, its because of lag.

(Now, thats not to completely eliminate that my opponents are nefarious individuals using nefarious programs to cheat nefariously. That does happen. But in my case, I choose to blame my rural internet because I live next to a bean field, across from a corn field, with a cow pasture out the other way.)

Macros change the name? Nice.

Iskras

I believe in 3 situations that may or may not be different:

Experienced and extremely fast players; LAG; use of macros. Simple. The third situation, I do not seem to hurt the ToS.

Waffennacht

Macros do not bypass GCDs

The only thing that makes it appear as if GCDs are ignored is Lag and desync

Then there's combos:

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Three easy ones off the top of my head
Curse, Fury, LA, Frag, Implosion
Dive, Sub Assault, Crit Rush, LA, Bash
Snipe, Snipe, Ambush, LA, Enchant

What are you getting hit by that you cannot understand? There is likely a very simple rotation to pull it off. A combat log with time stamps is better than death recap.

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER

Iskras wrote: »

There is a great mystery in the mechanics of the game for me to date, how can some players - always the same - spell 5 skills in less than a second?

Curiously, this is always the case with the same players. I really need to learn this ... or ZOS could make it more 'democratic'.

-_-

Not possible at all because of the global skill cooldown.

Biro123

Yup - as others have said, list the abilities and we will see.

You need to understand that there are abilities made for 'delayed burst' - designed to hit at the same time as other abilities.
Lets take magsorc for example. A typical ultimate damage combination could go like this (numbers are seconds/GCD's, whatever).:

1. Cast fury/wrath. This adds a debuff for 4 seconds.
2. Cast curse. Does no immediate damage but will explode in 3 seconds.
3. Cast meteor. This will land in about one second.
4. Cast light-attack + frag.
5. Get hit with: Curse explosion, Meteor landing, light-attack, glyph proc from light attack, frag hitting, and if all that puts you below 20%, fury/wrath proc.

You will see 6 hits occurring at the same time - but it took 4-5 seconds of constant casting to set up.

There are other examples of these kind of combo's - and they are all basically examples of using the class properly - no lag, no macro's.

Thogard

Hey boo

Macros just click buttons for you. They don’t interfere with the game engine.

Saying that macros help you do 5 attacks real fast is like saying if you tap the ability button super fast then you can do five skills in a second.

The accusation you’re looking for here is “cheat engine”

SugaComa

Iskras wrote: »

There is a great mystery in the mechanics of the game for me to date, how can some players - always the same - spell 5 skills in less than a second?

Curiously, this is always the case with the same players. I really need to learn this ... or ZOS could make it more 'democratic'.

-_-

Death cap only shows last 5 skills

You may have been hit by 6 to 10 total especially with process sets and DoTs

Best thing is to focus on the fun stuff ... Not the death stuff

raasdal

SugaComa wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

There is a great mystery in the mechanics of the game for me to date, how can some players - always the same - spell 5 skills in less than a second?

Curiously, this is always the case with the same players. I really need to learn this ... or ZOS could make it more 'democratic'.

-_-

Death cap only shows last 5 skills

You may have been hit by 6 to 10 total especially with process sets and DoTs

Best thing is to focus on the fun stuff ... Not the death stuff

Death Recap does not show last 5 skills. It shows what it deems to be the most important recent hits. Just FYI. That is how your recap says the same skill 5 times, without anything else in between. Especially Oblivion Enchants are bad on this.

TheNuminous1

five skills

TheNuminous1

that prolly took 2 seconds tho

SugaComa

raasdal wrote: »

SugaComa wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

There is a great mystery in the mechanics of the game for me to date, how can some players - always the same - spell 5 skills in less than a second?

Curiously, this is always the case with the same players. I really need to learn this ... or ZOS could make it more 'democratic'.

-_-

Death cap only shows last 5 skills

You may have been hit by 6 to 10 total especially with process sets and DoTs

Best thing is to focus on the fun stuff ... Not the death stuff

Death Recap does not show last 5 skills. It shows what it deems to be the most important recent hits. Just FYI. That is how your recap says the same skill 5 times, without anything else in between. Especially Oblivion Enchants are bad on this.

Well thank you for clarifying

That wasn't something I was not aware of,

My only worry to that is I have seen light attacks on my death recap for 800 damage

That hardly seems important compared to the 5k hits I'm taking from other skills, hence my deduction to it being the last few hits

Toast_STS

5 skills. It's short sentence and only takes a second to spell. Maybe try Mavis Beacon?

Waffennacht

Toast_STS wrote: »

5 skills. It's short sentence and only takes a second to spell. Maybe try Mavis Beacon?

Took me a sec

It's actually pretty witty

Gilvoth

Thogard wrote: »

“cheat engine”

that is what i believe.
and i do think it happens, and is happening in eso.

Thogard

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

“cheat engine”

that is what i believe.
and i do think it happens, and is happening in eso.

Cheat engine is a bit like Sasquatch. A lot of people claim to have seen it, but every time you look at the evidence it comes clear that it isn’t Sasquatch.

I’m always open to the possibility. I think a “no clip” chestnut engine hack would be mechanically possible since collision detection is client side, not server side... but most things are server side, including the global cooldown.

Waffennacht

Thogard wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

“cheat engine”

that is what i believe.
and i do think it happens, and is happening in eso.

Cheat engine is a bit like Sasquatch. A lot of people claim to have seen it, but every time you look at the evidence it comes clear that it isn’t Sasquatch.

I’m always open to the possibility. I think a “no clip” chestnut engine hack would be mechanically possible since collision detection is client side, not server side... but most things are server side, including the global cooldown.

To add to this. Everything I've seen involving cheat engine played on in game variables. Such as manipulation of Dodge chance via shuffle, ult gen and ult use, jumping and movements. Things that already existed but could be manipulated - never anything like bypassing GCDs, or circumventing mechanics.

Checkmath

Cheat engine can change numbers: stats, percentage numbers, numbers of major and minor buffs and therefore also ultigen. You cant cheat around the global cooldown. Cheat engine can just change the feedback from the pc to the server and change sent numbers.