Is T-Bagging a Reportable Offense

Nyladreas

Morgul667 wrote: »

Nyladreas wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

Nyladreas wrote: »

When did online games become such a huge refuge for degenerates that get offended by literally everything.

I don't understand anything anymore

When did it become Normal to behave inappropriately when online?

I don’t understand anymore

Grow some backbone. Holy crap. It's always been normal until the whole PC crap and SJW agendas.

Cool story

Lets switch the debate away from tbaggers to those who disapprove of tbags and insinuate they have to be weak to disapprove

Just LOL you gotta love this

Yeah, because that's exactly how you look like. Makes me wonder how you even live your life if you can't deal with such irrelevant pointless little annoyances in a video game.

Truth be told I feel extremely bad for people who are that sensitive. Takes the joy out of life if you spend so much time and energy focusing on things that don't directly affect your life in any way unless you, as you obviously did, choose to be affected by them.

Happiness is a choice. And many are too blind to choose.

DieAlteHexe

Bhaal5 wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

How can the squating movement be bannable?

If so, then it should not be allowed in the game as in you should be allow to crouch and the animation shouldnt be there.

If tbagging offends, get up...maybe get mad but not really necessary, and get them back. Single them out in a zergb and repeat the action over them

Pay it forward

Or see the notion as something else, as GG (good game) rather than typing it they are saying gg to you

Surely there are other emotes that would better represent "gg" or "gf". I mean, being slapped in the face by virtual testicals seems a bit...off...as a congratulatory thing.

Just doing a service and taking it back. One bag at a time

Well, that's a new one...a "service". Hey, if it works for you...

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO

Someone tries their best to kill you, no issue
Someone crouches up and down on your character, omg the hate

Personally I prefer /shovel which I'll do from time to time on someone not releasing as I really like the animation but if anyone's ever been kidnapped and burried alive with a straw to breathe through whilst being held for ransom I'm screwed.

DieAlteHexe

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO wrote: »

Someone tries their best to kill you, no issue
Someone crouches up and down on your character, omg the hate

Personally I prefer /shovel which I'll do from time to time on someone not releasing as I really like the animation but if anyone's ever been kidnapped and burried alive with a straw to breathe through whilst being held for ransom I'm screwed.

Last time I got ganked (me v. 6) I got the /shovel and then the /broom. I was amused by that.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Are people so sensitive these days?

All the ones claiming for bans need to step out side for a second and assess on the grand scale how it is nothing.

grow a thicker skin

Facefister

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Are people so sensitive these days?

All the ones claiming for bans need to step out side for a second and assess on the grand scale how it is nothing.

grow a thicker skin

This entire thread is a troll thread

Ahmbor

Facefister wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Are people so sensitive these days?

All the ones claiming for bans need to step out side for a second and assess on the grand scale how it is nothing.

grow a thicker skin

This entire thread is a troll thread

In this day and age? I'm not really sure.

Facefister

Ahmbor wrote: »

Facefister wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Are people so sensitive these days?

All the ones claiming for bans need to step out side for a second and assess on the grand scale how it is nothing.

grow a thicker skin

This entire thread is a troll thread

In this day and age? I'm not really sure.

2016-17 was like "we're serious SJW and feminists!". Today everyone mocks them and threads featuring them are mostly bait or troll threads.

Biro123

Nowadays there are people who love to get offended - not because they themselves are offended, but because they think other groups of other people might. This is on any subject.
Example is earlier in the thread with one guy saying its offensive to anyone whose been sexually assaulted, then the next poster who has been a victim of sexual assault came along and said he thought t-bagging was funny..

Anyways, if you've trigger someone in game enough for them to t-bag you, it obviously means you've beaten them several times and/or proved to be very hard to beat.
Therefore it is actually a sign of respect. The t-bagger is letting you know that although you were beaten, he considers you to be the superior player.
So stop getting all offended and take it as the compliment was meant. You'll be happier, trust me.

ZirconJunkie

That Pixelist harassed my pixel! Ban him!

DieAlteHexe

Biro123 wrote: »

Nowadays there are people who love to get offended - not because they themselves are offended, but because they think other groups of other people might. This is on any subject.
Example is earlier in the thread with one guy saying its offensive to anyone whose been sexually assaulted, then the next poster who has been a victim of sexual assault came along and said he thought t-bagging was funny..

Anyways, if you've trigger someone in game enough for them to t-bag you, it obviously means you've beaten them several times and/or proved to be very hard to beat.
Therefore it is actually a sign of respect. The t-bagger is letting you know that although you were beaten, he considers you to be the superior player.
So stop getting all offended and take it as the compliment was meant. You'll be happier, trust me.

Interesting. considering I've never won in a PvP situation, they must have me mistaken for someone else.

But hey! Superior to the folks that gank me!

Oh, wait, I already knew that.

StaticWave

I don't give a flying crap if you find it offensive. If you zerg me down in cyrodill, you're going to get the bags.

Brrrofski

I never tbag. I never want to give someone the satisfaction of knowing I care that much that I killed them.

Someone tbagging me doesn't bother me personally. I do find the whole idea of it pathetic though. Like, this game is mostly adults playing. It's pretty hilarious how many adults find the idea of it funny.

Some people may find it extremely offensive, especially if they've been subjected to sexual assaults or harassment. I definitely see that. I find it outstanding that *** jokes and the such as so socially accepted. Especially when it's male on male. It's staggering if you think about it really.

Anyway, this is about the game, not society as a whole. Far too early in the morning to try to fix society as a whole!

Brrrofski

Nyladreas wrote: »

I bet you 99% of people tbag not because of sexual harassment but because they find it funny. Often triggering the other person which makes it many times more amusing.

People need to learn not to give a damn. Laugh at their stupidity. How can something so simple trigger you in a GAME lol.

Thing is, imagine that person has been subjected to sexual assaults or harassment. That is something that some people will struggle with all their life. In adult relationships, in society where these things are often made light of and with just so many things that may remind them of that.

So they play this game to escape reality. Then some immature person starts doing this to them. Yes, it's shame, but now they're little bit of escape or veil if you like, is now gone.

I'm just laying devil's advocate here, I don't know for sure how it does affect people.

I just find it hilarious how childish so many adults behave when it's in a game. It's the verb of "bug bug, I'm better than you". Yes, you can use my argument against me. That the game is THEIR escape where acting childish or immature is a much needed stresses of family life or a serious job where you always have to be an adult. But it may be at the especially of someone else. Just something to think about.

DieAlteHexe

Facefister wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

How can the squating movement be bannable?

If so, then it should not be allowed in the game as in you should be allow to crouch and the animation shouldnt be there.

If tbagging offends, get up...maybe get mad but not really necessary, and get them back. Single them out in a zergb and repeat the action over them

Pay it forward

Or see the notion as something else, as GG (good game) rather than typing it they are saying gg to you

Surely there are other emotes that would better represent "gg" or "gf". I mean, being slapped in the face by virtual testicals seems a bit...off...as a congratulatory thing.

This game doesn't feature primary reproductive organs.

Ah. Well then, pray tell, what are you bobbing about on someone's face then? Your arse? But wouldn't it then be /tarse? Which if you're a student old English actually fits here.

Brrrofski

Beardimus wrote: »

Knowledge wrote: »

A more appropriate way to deal with your fallen adversary that does not require T-bagging(Sexual harassment) is the use of the /sweep emote.

Honestly @Knowledge what is the difference???

Both are a button push. Both are pixels on a screen. Pixel movement is not sexual harrassment, I'm sorry. In a game where the built in emotes like.the kiss my butt one etc etc there are worse than squatting over a player and standing up.

And so you know players get triggered over any emote. I used to use the prayer one / sweeping as I had it done to me and thought it was a sign of respect but you get as much salt for all.the above. Even jumping up and down near the fallen.

People need to get a grip. It's a game. If you get triggered from violence etc dont play a violent game.

Honestly the right to be offended and entitlement has hit an all.time high in this forum in 2018. That triggers me, can we all stop it please as it make me uncomfortable.

The difference is one has connotations of a sexual act against the person's will while the other one is a visual metaphor that the job is done.

Pretty big difference...

Mureel

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Facefister wrote: »

I bet half of the people here have problems opening their soylent drink bottles.

"Shiver-me-triggers your username offends me because it implies violent things done to the face. Change it or i'll petition ZoS to ban you"

...is the logic being used by some

Haha I want the name shivermetriggers omg great guild name too!

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

How can the squating movement be bannable?

If so, then it should not be allowed in the game as in you should be allow to crouch and the animation shouldnt be there.

If tbagging offends, get up...maybe get mad but not really necessary, and get them back. Single them out in a zergb and repeat the action over them

Pay it forward

Or see the notion as something else, as GG (good game) rather than typing it they are saying gg to you

Surely there are other emotes that would better represent "gg" or "gf". I mean, being slapped in the face by virtual testicals seems a bit...off...as a congratulatory thing.

I guess when I see a single actual nutsack, I'll care more- but the truth is, there is no nutsack

ClockworkCityBugs

Facefister wrote: »

This game doesn't feature primary reproductive organs.

you wrong
look at trophy of Chokethorn

Brrrofski

I'm not advocating for bans by the way. Just playing devil's advocate.

I do always advocate for people to be more thoughtful towards others though. Even if you don't see it as offensive, you still do it to anger or humiliate someone for your own self gain. Making yourself feel better or entertained at someone else's misery or misfortune is never a good look.

ktdotexe

Mureel wrote: »

PetiteFire wrote: »

Tbagging, personally, I don't find offensive and just get players back by using equally ridiculous emotes when they die.

However, everyone is different. What upsets me may not upset someone else and vice versa. So yes, it should be taken seriously if someone is feeling harrassed. We all deserve to have a good online experience, and if someone is trying to ruin that for somebody else, kick 'em to the curb!

No one deserves anything.

Yes, they do. When someone is using or paying for a service, they have every right to report someone who is affecting their time.

To each. Their own.

DieAlteHexe

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Mureel wrote: »

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Facefister wrote: »

I bet half of the people here have problems opening their soylent drink bottles.

"Shiver-me-triggers your username offends me because it implies violent things done to the face. Change it or i'll petition ZoS to ban you"

...is the logic being used by some

Haha I want the name shivermetriggers omg great guild name too!

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

How can the squating movement be bannable?

If so, then it should not be allowed in the game as in you should be allow to crouch and the animation shouldnt be there.

If tbagging offends, get up...maybe get mad but not really necessary, and get them back. Single them out in a zergb and repeat the action over them

Pay it forward

Or see the notion as something else, as GG (good game) rather than typing it they are saying gg to you

Surely there are other emotes that would better represent "gg" or "gf". I mean, being slapped in the face by virtual testicals seems a bit...off...as a congratulatory thing.

I guess when I see a single actual nutsack, I'll care more- but the truth is, there is no nutsack

Okay then, what is the meaning of it? The very name is absolutely indicative or is your position that because there is no actual "nutsack" that it is a meaningless gesture and people shouldn't be offended. If that's so, why do people bother to do it? And I don't buy this nonsense of it being a way to indicate respect or gg.

I know why. Because it's meant to denigrate or gloat and (this never made any sense to me but there it is) bringing genitalia into historically is a negative. Eh, I just never cared for people being jerks just because they can. If by some miracle I ever managed to kill someone (hahahahahaha) if I didn't faint from the shock, I would either /bow (to indicate respect for their efforts) or /salute (is there even a /salute? Dunno, not much of an /emote user).

Mureel

Brrrofski wrote: »

Nyladreas wrote: »

I bet you 99% of people tbag not because of sexual harassment but because they find it funny. Often triggering the other person which makes it many times more amusing.

People need to learn not to give a damn. Laugh at their stupidity. How can something so simple trigger you in a GAME lol.

Thing is, imagine that person has been subjected to sexual assaults or harassment. That is something that some people will struggle with all their life. In adult relationships, in society where these things are often made light of and with just so many things that may remind them of that.

So they play this game to escape reality. Then some immature person starts doing this to them. Yes, it's shame, but now they're little bit of escape or veil if you like, is now gone.

I'm just laying devil's advocate here, I don't know for sure how it does affect people.

I just find it hilarious how childish so many adults behave when it's in a game. It's the verb of "bug bug, I'm better than you". Yes, you can use my argument against me. That the game is THEIR escape where acting childish or immature is a much needed stresses of family life or a serious job where you always have to be an adult. But it may be at the especially of someone else. Just something to think about.

This particular devil doesn't need any more advocates.

ktdotexe

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

PetiteFire wrote: »

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

PetiteFire wrote: »

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

PetiteFire wrote: »

Tbagging, personally, I don't find offensive and just get players back by using equally ridiculous emotes when they die.

However, everyone is different. What upsets me may not upset someone else and vice versa. So yes, it should be taken seriously if someone is feeling harrassed. We all deserve to have a good online experience, and if someone is trying to ruin that for somebody else, kick 'em to the curb!

If someone gets upset at a character crouching on their face, why should I or anyone care? Sounds harsh, but seriously, why should anyone care? Keep in mind, we are playing an M rated game where we slaughter masses, we can witness mass infanticide, we have our soul stolen by the God of something I shall not say who literally created vampires doing this thing, in a world full of racism and slavery etc. I could go on. But then someone gets unreasonably upset at something as petty as teabagging we suddenly everyone should be forced to cater to that person??

Aight Captain Obvious, keep your panties on.

Because the majority of people who use it don't just do it as a one-time thing; they do it to specific targetted players because they know it upsets them. To me, that isn't funny. I don't roll like that in-game.

You may not 'care' about your fellow players, I happen to. Each to their own and all that.

Dont like being targeted in PVP? Dont play PVP. Being targeted is simply the risk of playing PVP. Dont want trolls targetting you because you dont like teabagging? Dont whine to them about being teabagged. "Dont feed the troll" used to be internet 101...

I care about if a player is being reasonable. Being offended does not *automatically* mean the entire MMO community should cater to you. I'm not arguing that teabagging isnt immature, it certainly is, but I greatly oppose the idea people should be *forced* to behave mature or else get banned.

This is ESO. Maturity isn't a word this community understands so that would never happen.

I have already stated that I couldn't give a rat's ass if someone does it to me, but if it upsets someone else and affects their gameplay, then they have every right to report it. You say about catering, yet your posts just say nothing but 'put up or shut up'. So if that's the case, why should they care about you and your opinion, equally? What makes your opinion more valid? "Don't feed the trolls" - ...bro, seriously? Stepping into a PVP area doesn't give somebody else the right to bully or harrass you. It's not about being 'mature', there's a fine line between being cheeky and being a *** person.

Every right to report it? Sure, you can report anything, but that doesnt mean one bit that ZoS should act on it.

I advocate asking people not to teabag, or convince them, or whatever. But I oppose ZoS banning them, aka forcing the community to cater to people getting unreasonably offended. Not all opinions are equal in truth, do you realize that?

Bully? Harrass? Define those terms. If some calls me a noob or tells me to "git gud" , is that bullying? If I get offended, should I report them? Should ZoS act on that report?

To each. Their own. That report button is there to be used anytime over anything at a player's discretion. If you want to report someone for calling you a noob, go for it. (I've probably been reported numerous times for the things I say!) That's your right as a player. You can't scream "don't force me to behave a certain way", yet in the same breath you want to force others to by basically saying "man up". Doesn't work that way. Their opinion is valid, as is yours, neither is the right or wrong way to behave. But if ZOS want to punish someone at their discretion, again, that's down to them. Doesn't matter wether you or I agree or disagree with the reason. What I'm saying is, every player has a right to bring attention to someone or something that is making them feel uncomfortable. You don't get to decide what that is.

I'll give you an example; a friend of mine. She played PVP, a few players started singling her out and making it their mission to kill and tbag her at every opportunity, even when they played on the same side. Spilled into zone chat of them calling her derogitory female insults and insulting her any time she made an appearance. They then started to follow her around in PVE, ksed her and just got in her way. She blocked them, they continued. She reported them to ZOS, they got temporarily banned. That, imo, was justified and they deserved it. Why should she have to put up with that? She did the correct thing by ignoring and blocking, yet they didn't stop. And it all started with 'harmless' tbagging!

Had it been me, I wouldn't have reported them. I just would have been just as annoying and vulgar back. But she isn't me, and it was affecting her time in-game. Telling her to 'man up' wouldn't have solved that situation.

Tl:dr; report function is open to all. Use however you want. If ZOS act, haha.

Claudman

I just shrug when people do it...

Probably because I also do it.

It's a video game...A fictional, make-believe form of entertainment. If we seriously start banning people over t-bagging, then imagine how far it'd go...It'd go so far that even using an emote to taunt (which the purchasable emotes support this taunting) near a dead player will be a bannable offense.

ktdotexe

Brrrofski wrote: »

I'm not advocating for bans by the way. Just playing devil's advocate.

I do always advocate for people to be more thoughtful towards others though. Even if you don't see it as offensive, you still do it to anger or humiliate someone for your own self gain. Making yourself feel better or entertained at someone else's misery or misfortune is never a good look.

^^^^

Altercator

T-bagging increases Ultimate regen by 20% for 10 seconds.

Mureel

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

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Mureel wrote: »

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Facefister wrote: »

I bet half of the people here have problems opening their soylent drink bottles.

"Shiver-me-triggers your username offends me because it implies violent things done to the face. Change it or i'll petition ZoS to ban you"

...is the logic being used by some

Haha I want the name shivermetriggers omg great guild name too!

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

How can the squating movement be bannable?

If so, then it should not be allowed in the game as in you should be allow to crouch and the animation shouldnt be there.

If tbagging offends, get up...maybe get mad but not really necessary, and get them back. Single them out in a zergb and repeat the action over them

Pay it forward

Or see the notion as something else, as GG (good game) rather than typing it they are saying gg to you

Surely there are other emotes that would better represent "gg" or "gf". I mean, being slapped in the face by virtual testicals seems a bit...off...as a congratulatory thing.

I guess when I see a single actual nutsack, I'll care more- but the truth is, there is no nutsack

Okay then, what is the meaning of it? The very name is absolutely indicative or is your position that because there is no actual "nutsack" that it is a meaningless gesture and people shouldn't be offended. If that's so, why do people bother to do it? And I don't buy this nonsense of it being a way to indicate respect or gg.

I know why. Because it's meant to denigrate or gloat and (this never made any sense to me but there it is) bringing genitalia into historically is a negative. Eh, I just never cared for people being jerks just because they can. If by some miracle I ever managed to kill someone (hahahahahaha) if I didn't faint from the shock, I would either /bow (to indicate respect for their efforts) or /salute (is there even a /salute? Dunno, not much of an /emote user).

The ONLY TIME I ever clam slam, is when I am in a PVE raid, whole group in discord, and someone dies - because we are funny like that. I tell people in group in cyro with me 'awww don't tbag, have some class!' but they do it or not - their thing - so I am coming at this as a person who doesn't do it myself except among friends in pve setting.

The point is: it does not MATTER. It changes nothing, does nothing, you can pop your map up and you won't even see it. OR you can just release and off ya go. You don't have to participate in it at all. It's your choice to just stay put.

It's not a real life and I guarantee no one who does it is giving it this much thought/power and I am pretty sure MOST people don't imagine themselves dunking their nuts on your face because they don't even know you.

It's a game thing and it's been a game thing since games. If you take it outside that context that is 100% on you.

I am going to step out of this though because I think even dignifying this point of view by engaging in debate on it is enabling more than I think is right or good or even healthy.

It is not a good thing to go where things you know YOU KNOW will bother you are, and then complain. I very much doubt you'd go into a S&M club then complain that people were being tied up and beaten. You have a choice, you have freedom to be elsewhere. End Of.

Derra

Nyladreas wrote: »

When did online games become such a huge refuge for degenerates that get offended by literally everything.

I don't understand anything anymore

@Nyladreas when did online games become such a huge refuge for people that get fun from rediculing their opponents?

Also who´s really the degenerate in this situation - the person that purposefully wants to offend in an environment meant for fun (a game) or the person that gets offended?

Numerikuu

Jesus christ, some people need to grow a thicker skin before their protective bubble bursts, otherwise the very air of reality that surrounds them will suffocate them right on the spot.

Sure, t-bagging can be seen as a ****** move depending on the context. But you know what’s even more utterly pathetic? Letting it trigger you. If you can’t ‘git gud’ and get even with that person? And pixels squatting over your pixel corpse triggers you that much? You need to consider either A ) not participating in PvP games to begin with, or B ) play a different game altogether.

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

I had to google to find out what it is...

It's a video game, how can something stupid like that bother you? You guys have serious mental issues.

Aye, I do. Due to being assaulted years ago. I guess I also have "mental issues" because I think respect and honour matter and feel that taunting the person you've already beaten is pretty lame. That probably makes me completely insane in this day and age.

I can live with that.

Agreed with the respect/honor part, but that's why t-baggers actions are seen as laughable and so easily brushed aside. There's an incredible difference between being t-bagged on a screen and being assaulted irl. It's apples v oranges.

What happened to you sucks, no bloody doubt, but when you try to change the very world around you in order to cater to you instead of leaning to cope with your trauma or overcoming it, I'm sorry, but you loose my sympathy. I myself have been a victim of abuse and know of many others who have been through rough ****, but instead of trying to alter the fabric of reality and demand that the world change (aka unrealistic or change that ends up negatively affecting the lives and enjoyment of the many, as seen with the cancer that is PC/SJW culture), we dealt with it. We became stronger for it. If you're not ready to take those steps, then you need to take the steps in order to protect yourself and avoid those situations that trigger you.

You are responsible for yourself, others are not responsible for you. The world owes you nothing, regardless of what happened. Life is rough like that. Overcome it. Be stronger for it.

Nyladreas

Derra wrote: »

Nyladreas wrote: »

When did online games become such a huge refuge for degenerates that get offended by literally everything.

I don't understand anything anymore

@Nyladreas when did online games become such a huge refuge for people that get fun from rediculing their opponents?

Who´s the degenerate the person that purposefully wants to offend in an environment meant for fun or the person that gets offended?

Read my previous response to this. I'm not going to repeat myself