Would you support an alliance change token?

Minyassa

I would. Coming from the point of view of someone who does not pvp or intend to unless I have to for a pve build...I've just recently found myself in a position where I could have had help with the toon I need to get Caltrops for, IF he'd been in a different faction. Alliance means literally nothing to me aside from where you start your toon's questing, but in cases where you make friends who are all in a different faction and you'd like to join them with an existing toon, I think it would be a nice thing to have.

Tetrafy

Why not? Elite players already do this by just creating another toon, why not just make it easier on everyone. Including mount speed and player space, skyshards and lorebooks? Like it makes no sense to me why you would have to collect more than dk64 6 times for 6 characters and yes I did 101 percent that game.

VaranisArano

nryerson1025 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

For 15k crowns sure. Otherwise no.

Honestly, paying 15k crowns to PVP on the faction I want to PVP on with a certain character is probably a better deal than using those crowns on any of the limited time housing ZOS has to offer.

or what about paying 12k crowns for 60 speed 60 stam on your mount!

what is that, like $80 USD?

I'm assuming you are suggesting this as an alternative-leveling up a new character and getting them ready for PVP quickly?

I already explained that I have 2 existing characters who are not EP and that I only PVP for the Pact. If I had an alliance change token, I would use it to make those eisting characters, who I do not want to replace part of the Pact.

Therefore, your solution does not address my reasoning for wanting an Alliance Change token. I'm aware my reasons are somewhat niche, because I'm changing Alliance out of Faction loyalty not despite it, but that's why I bring up it up.

WillhelmBlack

No

method__01

why keep asking ?

just no

mikemacon

Yes.

Raudgrani

Yes. With a six month cooldown, or a "one time no return" opportunity, i.e. that you can use such a token once and then no more. Made a Khajiit for my son on my account, and neither him nor I wants it to be an AD khajiit. Everyone didn't exactly buy "Any race any alliance" the very first day, so I take it a lot of people really would have liked to be able to switch alliance, once they understood this thing about alliances.

ol_BANK_lo

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Knowledge wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

For 15k crowns sure. Otherwise no.

Why so much?

So people don't abuse it

Wouldn't it be easier to put a limit on the frequency, such as once per year or something? Then it literally can't be abused.

TQSkull

I don't see a reason why there shouldn't be alliance change tokens. You can already switch between the alliances if you want to, so alliance hopping isn't a real argument. It would be nice for people who created chars before One Tamriel.

cmetzger93

Of course. Class change too.

Girl_Number8

Necro~

VaranisArano

Girl_Number8 wrote: »

Necro~

Only in the sense of raising the dead horse to beat it again. Seems to be the OP's speciality.

Nevertheless, it keeps coming back because, like class change, people want it and to my knowledge, ZOS hasn't ever said "Nope, never, not gonna happen."

If someone has a source from ZOS otherwise, please share, because I'd love to know it, give up the dream, and bookmark that source for future posting on all alliance change topics.

rteezy

VaranisArano wrote: »

Just a reminder to everyone that the OP's MO is to post controversial/dead horse threads. If you want your comment to hang around, make sure its on topic.

Knowledge, not only is this a dead horse thread discussed plenty of times with no support from ZOS, there is already a current thread talking about Alliance Change here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/402612/is-there-any-way-to-change-alliance#latest

For myself, I would use an Alliance Change token of it were available, but I dont care if I never get one.

I would use an Alliance Change token because I am loyal to my faction. I'm loyal to the Ebonheart Pact and only PVP with EP characters. But prior to One Tamriel, I created an AD and DC character so I could experience those questlines without the intense veteran rank grind. Now, I don't PVP with those characters, and if Alliance Change tokens existed, I would change those characters to EP. I have the All Races, All Alliances pack, so no issues there. Also, I'm unwilling to delete those characters and remake them as EP because I'm attached to them and their story.

So ultimately, I don't care if ZOS ever gives us that option, but I would use an Alliance Change because of Faction Loyalty, not despite it.

yet again..all you show is some wierdo that tries to force roleplayign into pvp .."IM LOYAL TO MY FACTION"..?! dude?! what?!

PVP and roleplaying do NOT exist on the same realm..PERIOD!...if you ARE competitive and CARe about pvp you car emore about your win/loss, min maxing,stats..etc...THAN factions, races, looks or any thign else that bares no weight on your performance.

rteezy

in WoW you can switch races and factions wheneve ryou want..it costs like 30$ a pop

people use it all the time (speciall competitive pvp'rs) when one faction/Race is better for one or another reason.Its pretty common, it happens MOSTLY at the launch of a new xpac, NEVER broke the game..goign strong for 14 years....


So ,im sure ESO could survive it...

Knowledge

Roleplayers might also use these tokens to switch factions for RP reasons. While it may seem absurd to some they do need to be included in things.

VaranisArano

rteezy wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Just a reminder to everyone that the OP's MO is to post controversial/dead horse threads. If you want your comment to hang around, make sure its on topic.

Knowledge, not only is this a dead horse thread discussed plenty of times with no support from ZOS, there is already a current thread talking about Alliance Change here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/402612/is-there-any-way-to-change-alliance#latest

For myself, I would use an Alliance Change token of it were available, but I dont care if I never get one.

I would use an Alliance Change token because I am loyal to my faction. I'm loyal to the Ebonheart Pact and only PVP with EP characters. But prior to One Tamriel, I created an AD and DC character so I could experience those questlines without the intense veteran rank grind. Now, I don't PVP with those characters, and if Alliance Change tokens existed, I would change those characters to EP. I have the All Races, All Alliances pack, so no issues there. Also, I'm unwilling to delete those characters and remake them as EP because I'm attached to them and their story.

So ultimately, I don't care if ZOS ever gives us that option, but I would use an Alliance Change because of Faction Loyalty, not despite it.

yet again..all you show is some wierdo that tries to force roleplayign into pvp .."IM LOYAL TO MY FACTION"..?! dude?! what?!

PVP and roleplaying do NOT exist on the same realm..PERIOD!...if you ARE competitive and CARe about pvp you car emore about your win/loss, min maxing,stats..etc...THAN factions, races, looks or any thign else that bares no weight on your performance.

Oh, hi. I just replied to you on the other thread.

How the heck did you jump from me saying "I have a character that I want to PVP with on the faction that I'm loyal to so if there where an Alliance Change token I would use it so I could be loyal to my faction"

to " OMG you're forcing roleplaying into PVP!!!! That's not competitive!!! Competitiveness has nothing to do with faction!!"

Uh, yeah, I want to roleplay and be loyal to a faction (largely because the guilds I'm in are also faction loyal). Last I checked this was an MMORPG.

I'm not looking to be a competitive serious PVPer. Though if I was, I imagine that a competitive serious PVPer would want the option to change factions too for better players or better competition - though I might be wrong there. I'm saying that if there was an option, I would use it, because I value being loyal to my faction.

Relax. I'm not trying to force roleplaying into YOUR very serious and competitive PVP. All I'm saying is that if ZOS gave me that option, I'd use it because I have reasons to be loyal to the Ebonheart Pact.

exeeter702

Meh, honestly the whole alliance thing in general is redundant. I get the lore reasons and all but as far as a pvp feature (since the only weight an alliance chouce carries is cyrdoil) its really just whatever.

Heres what they should have done. Only have 30 day campaigns. Players chose a faction at character select. Everytime you opt into a campagin in cyrodil you pick one of 3 teams and are locked into that team no matter what for the remainder of the campaign. All your earnings and achievements are counted directly to your faction. Create a vendor that provides cosmetic rewards and whatnot, heavily themed around your faction and said rewards are locked behind ap AND your faction rank. Said rewards should be varied and exotic, with a heavy emphasis on the lore and style behind the faction.

Play with friends. Create pvp guilds that are actually worth a damn where you can recruit players based on there ability instead of some arbitrary faction lockout. Represent your faction of choice with pride. The only people who would be upset are the RP heroes who have somekind of silly "fight for your banner with allies" nonsense. None of that matters, its damn game. Fill up three seperate pools in a campaign and let it rip, who gives a ***. The most dedicated players will have the best EP, DC or AD awag on their backs regardless.

This is a toilet bowl thought and i have not considered how this would work with IC but whatever.

DHale

No thanks, you need to level a new toon like the rest of us. That said if it had where you lost your alliance rank to zero then ok. There must be some consequence.

ssewallb14_ESO

I'd support a 1-time per character change.

Maura_Neysa

Yes I would, with one caveat, and not yours. Changing Alliances resets your Alliance rank. You go straight back to Volenteer. Also fine if it cost in game gold, just like reseting skill/attribute points.

Knowledge

Roleplayers might also use these tokens to switch factions for RP reasons. While it may seem absurd to some they do need to be included in things.

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Yes I would, with one caveat, and not yours. Changing Alliances resets your Alliance rank. You go strat back to Volenteer. Also fine if it coast in game gold, just like reseting skill/attribute points.

GOOD idea.

jerj6925

Knowledge wrote: »

Sometimes your friends depart from the game or you simply join a new guild and wish to PVP with them. Perhaps you have a character you love and don't want to start from scratch. You don't want to redo your mage guild, your undaunted, your fighters guild, your skill points, just to change alliances - you love your character.

For this we should have the option of an "Alliance Change Token". This token would come in the form of a consumable item like a race change or appearance change that you would buy for Crowns on the Crown Store. You would use it on your character in the character selection menu and it would come with one caveat to prevent abuse (changing alliances often) and that caveat would be a thirty day cool down. In addition, it would lock that character out from the campaign they were CURRENTLY in on their previous alliance until the end of the campaign. However, if no campaign had been selected as their home they would be free to join one.

Please try to keep this civil and productive.

Yes along with an alliance Lock, all your char. are then set to one alliance for PVP

Venom4You

Yes, there should be an alliance change token.

There is absolutely no valid reason it has not yet been implemented. There is definitely a large amount of players out there, waiting for this feature for a long time (for various reasons). As others pointed out in this thread, there have already been numerous threads on this forum discussing how this could finally be added to the game without breaking anything.

Most people (myself included) seemed to be fine with it, as long as an appropriate cool down is added to any character who recently consumed a token. Thereby preventing people from swapping to the often mentioned "winning side" during several 30 day campaign cycles.

Dredlord

No

Recremen

Absolutely, without hesitation or qualification. The only thing it could affect is Cyrodiil PvP, and I strongly doubt it would do so negatively.

pod88kk

Only if they make it so your characters can only be a part of one colour per campaign

craigr02

Yes

Lynx7386

Sure, but only so we can get rid of the people that dont belong in the dominion.

Lylith

i'm all for it, but i wouldn't use it.

Morgul667

I would support it, if it is on cooldown like one char per account per 6 months or per year