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DoctorESO

The game's content is appropriately humorous

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Hiruda

RouDeR wrote: »

KIDOS , Have U played THE WITCHER Series ?
The Sexual Content in ESO Is a Joke , the Witcher series are a f-in Master Piece compared to what we have in ES..

Laught in Bioware

Daimmyo

Come on now guys, this game is far away from being dirty.

AlienatedGoat

The game's content is too prudish

Too prude, and too E for Everyone.

Skyrim was far more risque and violent. ESO is tame by comparison.

DoctorESO

The game's content is appropriately humorous

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Draxys

lol

Ydrisselle

The game's content is appropriately humorous

ESO is far from Age of Conan, if we are talking about MMOs...

VaranisArano

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

In the case of Nords and Bretons losing their pants all the time it might be comical but its also tired. I also somewhat dislike the way they seem to characterize the Nords as stupid buffoons in ESO. They might be brash warriors in the series but stupid seems to be quite the stretch and there is an awful lot of sexually and culturally idiotic Nords in the game.

Nords losing their pants is a fine Elder Scrolls tradition from TES III: Morrowind. There's three of them in the game.

Shirtless & pantless Nords under the spoiler for anyone wanting to ogle.

Cadbury

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VaranisArano wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

In the case of Nords and Bretons losing their pants all the time it might be comical but its also tired. I also somewhat dislike the way they seem to characterize the Nords as stupid buffoons in ESO. They might be brash warriors in the series but stupid seems to be quite the stretch and there is an awful lot of sexually and culturally idiotic Nords in the game.

Nords losing their pants is a fine Elder Scrolls tradition from TES III: Morrowind. There's three of them in the game.

Shirtless & pantless Nords under the spoiler for anyone wanting to ogle.

Oh my! Please stop! You're giving me the vapours!

Recremen

The game's content is appropriately humorous

It seems like it's in a reasonable place to me. I mean, it's rated M, so they could probably get away with a fair bit more, and not just in the way of lewdness, but also vulgarity. Not that I'm looking for any of that in particular, but let Queen Ayrenn say ***.

VaranisArano

DoctorESO wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

Too prude, and too E for Everyone.

Skyrim was far more risque and violent. ESO is tame by comparison.

I haven't played Skyrim in a while. What were the risque parts? I can't remember any off the top of my head.

There was:
Haelga worshipping Dibella in Riften with some suggestive stuff in her house (There's a lot of risque stuff with Haelga: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Haelga)
Brynjolf claiming that Falmer Blood Elixir will let you "make love like a sabrecat"
Degaine gets the Dragonborn to steal a stature of Dibella for reasons
At some point during "A Night to Remember" the Dragonborn gets engaged to a Hagraven
Mikael the Bard has assessed most of the ladies of Whiterun in his book. Its no wonder Carlotta wants you to punch his lights out.

And probably a few more I can't remember.

Anhedonie

The game's content is too prudish

Didn't expect any other outcome from USA studio though. No offence, but you guys always like that.

FleetwoodSmack

The game's content is too prudish

I feel it's a combination of being appropriately humorous, but also a bit prudish most of the time. It's funny, but predictable.

Grimm13

The game's content is too prudish

For a game with a M+17 rating it is ridiculous that characters are referred to as "nude"when stripped down to a bathing suit. It is nothing less that and sometimes more than what is seen in public swimming locations by all ages.

This tired old argument is being used in the new outfitter system to prevent the inclusion of hiding any clothing/ armor piece other than head slot. Immediately people think what is wanted for this is for female characters to have full breast nudity, that is not is what people are meaning. Defaulting to the base unequipped state for the appropriate character model is what people are wanting.

On that female base model of a 1946 bikini design is used. I would rather see something that is more historically accurate and fitting for emulated clothing timeline. Here is an example of a mosaic from 286 - 305AD.



It is still tasteful but more accurate for the clothing choices.

I would like to recognize the efforts made to introduce by my standards alternate life styles. While not my cup of tea, I do not get upset that they are present.

MythicEmperor

Androconium wrote: »

The worst dialogue is the 'tinderfort' discussion. The female voice is overtly 'sultry'; and the male voice is overly effeminate. The entire conversion is just annoying.

The female banker in Sentinel is way too perfect and continually makes reference to my heavy purse. Too much, I end up leaving all my deposits with Tordaman. He does indicate a preference for them.

Then there are the blatantly sexist and racist loading screens. You all know them well enough by now.
All the white characters are beautiful; all the thieves have dark skin; all the ugly people are animals.

The Lusty Argonian Maid is from TESIII, as is the Naked Nord.
There were a couple of things from Crassius Curio and Sheogorath that I haven't seen lying around.

Lol sexist and racist loading screens? I think you’re reading into things a bit too much.

Betmer are ugly, however. They deserve only to be enslaved.

dodgehopper_ESO

The game's content is overly sexualized

VaranisArano wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

In the case of Nords and Bretons losing their pants all the time it might be comical but its also tired. I also somewhat dislike the way they seem to characterize the Nords as stupid buffoons in ESO. They might be brash warriors in the series but stupid seems to be quite the stretch and there is an awful lot of sexually and culturally idiotic Nords in the game.

Nords losing their pants is a fine Elder Scrolls tradition from TES III: Morrowind. There's three of them in the game.

Shirtless & pantless Nords under the spoiler for anyone wanting to ogle.

Tired as in overdone. It was already overdone in Morrowind. Did it really need to get overdone in ESO as well? By the way I enjoyed Witcher 3 but generally speaking I think they handled the subject matter better for the most part. The gratuitous brothel scenes do seem to fit in problematically with the main quest and sorceress arcs but I don't want to get into that. Overall it was a pretty good game. ESO is definitely less gritty than its predecessors (Skyrim and earlier) and I believe that had to do with where they wanted to market their product. I might be nitpicking but we're asking about critiques here. I play the game and enjoy it. Some quests are fantastic and some quests have some less than interesting storylines or outcomes.

I think a large problem with the story in the game as a whole is the lack of good storyline choices. I enjoyed the mission in Grahtwood with the ghost boy as it had a troubling decision but a good outcome. I enjoyed the old bones mission in Grahtwood as well. I dislike some of the other quests where it is presumed we have to side with a Daedra. I don't like being forced into siding with anything. That's one thing about Morrowind I really appreciated. I could just straight out kill Vivec in that game if I wanted to. I could screw up the prophecy and doom Nirn in Morrowind (tes3) if I wanted to. The storyline options are a bigger problem for me than a few sexually goofy scenes in the game. In Alikir there's a quest where a Daedra gives you two choices but we're never left with the third choice (KILL). False choices are not fun. Dark Brotherhood is a great expansion with a very interesting storyline but there is no actual choice. What if I wanted to side with the Order of the Hour? What if I wanted to make a character to side with the Iron Wheel? I sincerely hope the developers think about these things in the future as they also would help the replayability of story content in their game. This is why Skyrim and previous TES games were so great. This is why Fallout is great. (Modding doesn't hurt).

VaranisArano

Grimm13 wrote: »

On that female base model of a 1946 bikini design is used. I would rather see something that is more historically accurate and fitting for emulated clothing timeline. Here is an example of a mosaic from 286 - 305AD.



It is still tasteful but more accurate for the clothing choices.

Historical. Accurate. But those women don't exactly seem to have, ahem, huge tracts of land.

Idinuse

The game's content is appropriately humorous

DoctorESO wrote: »

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Do you think the game's content is overly sexualized, appropriately humorous, or too prudish?

Some examples:

• Queen Ayrenn's reference to an incident involving a purple velvet dress and a drunken schoolmarm.

Screenshots please.

All The Best

@Gandrhulf_Harbard

You didn't believe me?

There is this interesting Captain Jimilas raunchy song about our beloved Queen...

WakeYourGhost

The game's content is too prudish

Needs more nudity.
Perhaps nude dremora?

tplink3r1

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Overly sexualized? This game is barely sexualized at all. But i would appreciate less humor and more seriousness in some NPCs though.

TheShadowScout

The game's content is too prudish

DoctorESO wrote: »

• Dark Seducers telling you, "You look like a sturdy one. Shall I treat you to my whip or my riding crop?"

...that one always makes me wish half of them were not aggroing but actualyl trying to -seduce- our player characters before starting the fighting. And leave it up to the players how they want to respond... (but it ought to be clear that accepting a BDSM session from a daedra who may sometimes skin people for fun may not be that good an idea... heh, call it "daedric roulette", and assume that one in six trysts with a dark seducer ends with a very painful respawn... )

DoctorESO wrote: »

• Lorebooks titled "The Lusty Argonian Maid" with very suggestive content

That one is an ESO classic, and just as it is supposed to be (though I still wish we could have the rare illustrated version... )

DoctorESO wrote: »

• The quest involving the naked nord
• The quest involving the other nord who lost his pants

The naked nord quest IS the one where you get sent to retrieve lost pants, the other quest of that sort was the barefoot breton as I recall.

There are a few others, as has been noted by people in this discussion... also some more subtle ones, where you have to read between the lines to realize the sexual things that almost certainly happened behind the scenes... I always liked those... hinting at something without getting too obvious about it.

Ydrisselle wrote: »

ESO is far from Age of Conan, if we are talking about MMOs...

AoC was actually my first MMO (Yeah, our little town here got internet access able to handle online gaming a bit late...), so that is what I sort of measure others against...

And I have to agree that ESO is falling a little short on the matter.

Not that it surprises me, seeing how it was rated "16+" back when I bought it in summer '14, and only got bumped up to "18+" with the justice system... but then, the american gaming industry has often been a bit on the prude side, also considering just how many people overreacted to alien sideboobs in Mass Effect, and projected their own depraved fantasies onto that game, decreeing it for "sexualized content" without checking out the content in the first place... -sighs-

Personally I would prefer them being less prudish and going to the limits of their rating. But only as the story supports - think "Game of Thrones" level of sexualized content, not "Spartacus - Blood and Sand" (latter added sexualized scenes -just- to show off some naughty bits, and it doesn't sit well with me when there is naughtyness, or graphic violence for that matter, when it does not further or fit the story...)

Grimm13

The game's content is too prudish

TheShadowScout wrote: »

There are a few others, as has been noted by people in this discussion... also some more subtle ones, where you have to read between the lines to realize the sexual things that almost certainly happened behind the scenes... I always liked those... hinting at something without getting too obvious about it.

One subtle point, there is a quest that sends you to a woman in a tavern. A few innuendos are made in the text all the while she is holding an Orange. The orange is probably lost on a huge portion that have no clue that orange sellers where part of why Elizabeth I looked down upon the Theatre.

Grimm13

The game's content is too prudish

VaranisArano wrote: »

Grimm13 wrote: »

On that female base model of a 1946 bikini design is used. I would rather see something that is more historically accurate and fitting for emulated clothing timeline. Here is an example of a mosaic from 286 - 305AD.



It is still tasteful but more accurate for the clothing choices.

Historical. Accurate. But those women don't exactly seem to have, ahem, huge tracts of land.

You are correct in how they are depicted here in Mosaic Tile which lacks some detail of what this was. It is more likely that it is a binding wrap to give support for the activity than for a clothing item.

Beauty also has gone through many stages in history as to what an ideal look should be. Such as a later period when women where depicted with a more robust form. Being well fed was considered a sign of health and survivability to be looked for in child bearing. To modern times when a under fed waif look being projected by an industry to be the "In" look.

Saucy_Jack

The really funny part will be when a future TES *DOES* have the rare illustrated version of The Lusty Argonian Maid, and it turns out the illustrations show that absolutely none of the lines were innuendo, and the maid was polishing an actual spear, etc. etc.

Sixty5

All I really want is the ability to say *** without it being censored...

We're all adults here, I'm sure we can handle a bit of naughty language


Though I will say, I honestly prefer the veiled innuendo over overt sexualisation. I mean I enjoy finding novel uses for emotes as much as anyone, but walking through a town and seeing a Khajit actually getting railed by an Orc is a tad off putting.

Dromede

The game's content is appropriately humorous

The game's "sexually implying" content makes me giggle at the most - it's mostly suggestive puns that most teenagers will most likely miss.

Outfits and costumes were never line-crossing for me. The highly debated Nocturnal outfit looked more like it was missing pants rather than it was being sexy (those side slits are just not well done enough for that), and did not live up to the original image and concept. Also, there's is no gender restriction on what kind of character can wear any of the more revealing outfits - so no sexism is noticed for me so far.

I would personally like a little more profanity and rudeness like other TES games, and game's lore-appropriate insults are hilarious. Again, most people starting out the the game will not even realize it was an actual supposed insult in most cases - so i say it's fine as is, but the game definitely could capitalize on its M rating a little heavier.

WakeYourGhost

The game's content is too prudish

Sixty5 wrote: »

All I really want is the ability to say *** without it being censored...

We're all adults here, I'm sure we can handle a bit of naughty language


Though I will say, I honestly prefer the veiled innuendo over overt sexualisation. I mean I enjoy finding novel uses for emotes as much as anyone, but walking through a town and seeing a Khajit actually getting railed by an Orc is a tad off putting.

Adults is debatable, any any game.
One of my Guild Mates is a 12 year old - Another member is her father.

Of course, in the Game, you can turn Censor On or Off in the options last time I checked.

Shad0wfire99

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Who cares?

Kiralyn2000

The game's content is appropriately humorous

I'll pick this one, but.... wow, the OP's various examples listed in the first post. Most of those would be considered appropriate for T/PG-rated things. There's almost nothing risque about any of them. I can remember "worse" stuff in almost any daytime soap, in 8pm primetime shows (Firefly, Star Trek, Alias, Xena, Buffy the vampire slayer, etc.), in sitcoms...

Heck, that screenshot of the convo with Queen Ayrenn. There's nothing to that at all, it's barely even suggestive.

MehrunesFlagon

The game's content is too prudish

Recremen wrote: »

It seems like it's in a reasonable place to me. I mean, it's rated M, so they could probably get away with a fair bit more, and not just in the way of lewdness, but also vulgarity. Not that I'm looking for any of that in particular, but let Queen Ayrenn say ***.

There should be characters that have a sense of witty vulgarity.Personally I think eso could use a few

Dromede wrote: »

The game's "sexually implying" content makes me giggle at the most - it's mostly suggestive puns that most teenagers will most likely miss.

Outfits and costumes were never line-crossing for me. The highly debated Nocturnal outfit looked more like it was missing pants rather than it was being sexy (those side slits are just not well done enough for that), and did not live up to the original image and concept. Also, there's is no gender restriction on what kind of character can wear any of the more revealing outfits - so no sexism is noticed for me so far.

I would personally like a little more profanity and rudeness like other TES games, and game's lore-appropriate insults are hilarious. Again, most people starting out the the game will not even realize it was an actual supposed insult in most cases - so i say it's fine as is, but the game definitely could capitalize on its M rating a little heavier.

Amp it up to the level of Game of Thrones.Could use a corrupt brothel keeper like Petyr Baelish.They could probably find a decent place to add in incest as well.