@Zos think it over. Looted chests/nodes

Merlin13KAGL

Katahdin wrote: »

I empty all the chests I open and make a lot of gold selling the stuff I don't want to the merchant. Also some of it its good enough to upgrade and sell on the trader.

If I get a duplicate treasure map, I delete the one in inventory to empty the chest

@Katahdin mail it to someone. Mail it to a friend, mail it to a guildie, mail it to that random that just walked by.

Worst case scenario is you get the duplicate back in 30 days.

starkerealm wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

I know someone's gonna come in here and be like "not all of us have ESO plus!" Well that isn't a reason for you to inconvenience other players Buy some bag space upgrades with gold and grab those worms next time. This has always been something that really grinds my gears.

so its bad if they inconvenience you, but its ok for them to be inconvenienced having to deal with loot they dont want.
i see.

Yes, because they're the ones getting the the primary loot from the chest. So, if you get the perks of getting the first crack at it, then you should also bear the burden of cleaning the thing out.

Except it's not always the case. On the occasion I've done this, I've often left some very nice set pieces and taken only the style stone or the mat/bait. In such a case, I'd rather leave the good set piece (and I'm only referring to set pieces, not trash pieces) for someone to pick up (even if they choose to destroy it) vice forcing the despawn by destroying it myself.

Full inventory is full inventory. Would you rather someone destroy a guaranteed good item in hopes that the next spawn would be equally good, or would you rather they (only) take the very things most are complaining about getting left behind?

I realize this is probably the exception, more than the rule, but in either case, I still don't see it as game breaking.

Not like there are limited nodes/chests in an entire zone.

There are, in fact. Only a certain number of chests will spawn simultaneously in a zone. So long as you leave a chest up, you are in fact reducing the supply for that zone.

The same behavior applies for Thieves Caches.

Also, no offense, but I don't want your level 23 green Mother's Sorrow ring. I'm sure it would make someone's day, but the odds of them finding the chest are basically nil.

I did mention items of worth, right? I'm pretty sure most on here know the zone sets people are after, in that regard, so it's really not as difficult to judge as it's made out to be.

A L23 green would get trashed, of course.

In the grand scheme of things, this is effectively no different than had the chest been left alone entirely and never opened. The inside contents are unknown until you unlock it, and if it's in an out of the way place it's still counting towards the total zone chest count either way.

Legitimately curious, how do you know about the limited spawns per zone? I assume this is because chests spawn in consistent locations only, vs randomly placed? I also find it unlikely that this is the tier of issue its made out to be, as I come across (and often bypass) far more locked chests than I ever do pre-opened ones.

What I recommend to fix this on both counts is for them to code the ability to Destroy the items directly from the chest (drag and drop onto the ground, just as you do from inventory). This would allow people to clear the chests without any middle steps, vendor, sell, loot, destroy, vendor, buy back and would not even be a time inconvenience at that point.

Not all have the vendor, and most are not going to destroy an inventory item of value (why else would it be there) in order to clear an in-chest item of deemed non-value. Equally, most are not going to bypass a chest that potentially does have that rare game-breaking item in it simply because their inventory is at or close to full.

One other potential option, and this could apply to mobs, as well, would simply be the option to loot all but converting all contents to their gold vendored equivalent, perhaps at a 50% reduction?

This would let the trash still be worth something and nothing would ever need be left behind?

It's that or the despawn timer needs to be significantly shortened once the chest has been unlocked.

Apache_Kid

Zbigb4life wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

I know someone's gonna come in here and be like "not all of us have ESO plus!" Well that isn't a reason for you to inconvenience other players Buy some bag space upgrades with gold and grab those worms next time. This has always been something that really grinds my gears.

so its bad if they inconvenience you, but its ok for them to be inconvenienced having to deal with loot they dont want.
i see.

LOL what????

If they are inconveniencing THEMSELVES by picking up all loot than no one else is affected but them which is what you have to live with if you do not want to pay the money for ESO plus. Shifting that inconvenience on to ANOTHER PLAYER is rude and what is the problem.

Stop demanding what other people should do in their game. It is just a chest or node ffs

I'm asking for other people to be courteous and have manners. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that please stop acting as if there is.

pelle412

Guys, I see this thread every so often. You can see this issue as "they are being rude" or "I am choosing to be upset". You'd all be much happier if you worked on how you react to finding a partially empty chest or resource node? Is it really that infuriating? What did you really lose? I come across them too, once in a while, but it's rare. You are not going to change someone else's behavior to match your code of conduct. It doesn't work in RL and it doesn't work in the game.

code65536

Once you open a resource node it will despawn after a number of minutes even if you don't loot anything from it.

Once you interact with the lockpick mechanism on a chest, it will despawn after a number of minutes even if you don't open the chest.

You are free to find a node/chest in a secluded area and test this out for yourself.

(Disclaimer: I last tested this a number of patches ago, though I have little reason to believe that it is any different now with the current patch.)

Finally, chest respawn has a very large random component. It would appear that there are X number of possible chest spawn locations in a zone (let's say 100 for the sake of illustration). There are only Y number of chests that can be active at any given time (let's say 40 for the sake of illustration). When a chest despawns, it can respawn at any of the 61 vacant positions in the zone. It might respawn in the exact same location that you just looted. Or, more likely, it'll respawn in a location on the other side of the map. So the time between a particular location's chest respawning is extremely variable. It might respawn almost instantly. Or it might take hours. It depends on RNG and on the overall "churn rate" of the chests in the zone.

Orjix

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Apparently this is already the case, at least for chests. Once they've been opened they're on a timer before they go.

This is what's been told to me in previous forums threads however I have no evidence of it myself.

I'm pretty sure it takes longer to re-spawn this way though. I've never tested this but that's what I have been told as well.

Either way it's extremely rude to loot a node and leave in just bait or to loot a chest and leave in 1 glyph and 1 palladium. You're teasing someone else and making them clean up after you.

I know someone's gonna come in here and be like "not all of us have ESO plus!" Well that isn't a reason for you to inconvenience other players Buy some bag space upgrades with gold and grab those worms next time. This has always been something that really grinds my gears.

Don't have eso plus, and I have my bags maxed at 200, and I still have a full inventory at times, when I'm in a mood for grinding mats im not going to go back into town to sell stuff until I'm done

Apache_Kid

Orjix wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Apparently this is already the case, at least for chests. Once they've been opened they're on a timer before they go.

This is what's been told to me in previous forums threads however I have no evidence of it myself.

I'm pretty sure it takes longer to re-spawn this way though. I've never tested this but that's what I have been told as well.

Either way it's extremely rude to loot a node and leave in just bait or to loot a chest and leave in 1 glyph and 1 palladium. You're teasing someone else and making them clean up after you.

I know someone's gonna come in here and be like "not all of us have ESO plus!" Well that isn't a reason for you to inconvenience other players Buy some bag space upgrades with gold and grab those worms next time. This has always been something that really grinds my gears.

Don't have eso plus, and I have my bags maxed at 200, and I still have a full inventory at times, when I'm in a mood for grinding mats im not going to go back into town to sell stuff until I'm done

Send some mail to a friend and have them return to sender. Destroy something else in your bag. Find one of the traveling merchants.

You have plenty of options other than inconveniencing other players.

Slick_007

Apache_Kid wrote: »

You have plenty of options other than inconveniencing other players.

in other words, inconvenience ourself because someone (you) gets all cut up about partially looted stuff. Which has been stated in this thread and others that your timer assumptions are complete crap anyway. but instead of listening to people who have actually tested this, you continue to demand other players do as you want.

Wreuntzylla

Beamer_Miasma wrote: »

This is an imaginary problem. I farm thousands of nodes each and every week in all zones and if I find 5 of them in a whole week that have been half looted, it is a lot. If you can't stand noob behaviour, then stop farming in the noobie zones. Beyond the starter zones this 'problem' barely even exists.

In the early days of PC, and to a more limited extent today, it was mainly an issue related to bots. I can only assume you play exclusively on console, otherwise you would see much more of it.

Judas Helviaryn

I personally have auto loot on at all times, but if my inventory is full, and it often is, I have no compunctions about leaving vendor trash in a node.

The only reason people complain about those like me is because they were never taught how to properly handle disappointment in a healthy manner.

You can sit in delusion and believe the world revolves around you, or you can do what I do, understand you're one drop in the sea, and you can glimmer all you like, but little stuff like this truly doesn't matter.

It really doesn't.

Juju_beans

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

I personally have auto loot on at all times, but if my inventory is full, and it often is, I have no compunctions about leaving vendor trash in a node.

The only reason people complain about those like me is because they were never taught how to properly handle disappointment in a healthy manner.

You can sit in delusion and believe the world revolves around you, or you can do what I do, understand you're one drop in the sea, and you can glimmer all you like, but little stuff like this truly doesn't matter.

It really doesn't.

And I, on the other hand, will toss some trash in my inventory to completely clear a chest because I so dislike finding chests with 2 lock picks in them and don't want to wish it on the next player.

For me is has to do with being considerate of other players.

starkerealm

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

I did mention items of worth, right?

You did. However, with respect, I have absolutely no faith in the community to accurately assess the value of an item. You need to look no further than the prices on certain overland sets to see what I'm getting at.

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

A L23 green would get trashed, of course.

That was a random example. The thing is, value is entirely relative. For new players, they may legitimately think that level 23 is an amazing drop. Someone with some experience with the game may thing that a 160 purple is automatically valuable. That same someone may assume that green, Sturdy, Plague Doctor pieces are worthless, but that Purple, Invigorating, Darkstride piece, that must be valuable.

And, yeah, I've found chests where people left behind garbage that they clearly thought would be valuable to someone.

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

In the grand scheme of things, this is effectively no different than had the chest been left alone entirely and never opened. The inside contents are unknown until you unlock it, and if it's in an out of the way place it's still counting towards the total zone chest count either way.

This is, in fact, patently untrue in a number of ways.

First, if the person opening the chest was below 160, the items inside will have been leveled for them. I cannot tell you how many times I've cracked an abandoned chest, only to find that the contents were for someone in their mid 20s to 30s. Yeah, I'm sorry, that doesn't help me at all.

Second, if the person opening the chest has the treasure hunter passive, they actually get to roll on a superior loot table. So, again, if the other person had simply ignored the chest, then the second player would have gotten improved rolls.

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Legitimately curious, how do you know about the limited spawns per zone?

ZOS has discussed the particulars of the system in the past. Specifically after the Thieves Guild release broke the population cap for Caches.

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

I assume this is because chests spawn in consistent locations only, vs randomly placed? I also find it unlikely that this is the tier of issue its made out to be, as I come across (and often bypass) far more locked chests than I ever do pre-opened ones.

In general, partially looted chests are a rarity. However, it is rude. I understand if someone does it by accident, but expecting strangers to clean up after you because you can't be bothered is universally rude.

SirAndy

makreth wrote: »

I really don't understand why this hasn't been implemented.

Probably because it has already been implemented since PC launch, no need to do the same work twice ...

Judas Helviaryn

Juju_beans wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

I personally have auto loot on at all times, but if my inventory is full, and it often is, I have no compunctions about leaving vendor trash in a node.

The only reason people complain about those like me is because they were never taught how to properly handle disappointment in a healthy manner.

You can sit in delusion and believe the world revolves around you, or you can do what I do, understand you're one drop in the sea, and you can glimmer all you like, but little stuff like this truly doesn't matter.

It really doesn't.

And I, on the other hand, will toss some trash in my inventory to completely clear a chest because I so dislike finding chests with 2 lock picks in them and don't want to wish it on the next player.

For me is has to do with being considerate of other players.

First world problems, my friend. The level of reaction is disproportionate to the issue at hand for a good number of the playerbase. That itself is inappropriate, and a big driving force behind my lack of consideration for others on this low, low, low rung on the ladder of in-game issues.

Dracofyre

i remember my first 2 weeks, i had limited bag slot, i had to cherry picks. if there is lot of newer players, then they have same problems before to use +plus eso account for harvest bag.
it is not players' fault, it goes to devs since they didnt give a "starter harvest bag", could cap only at 200 units per type we gathered, those +plus give unlimited harvest items.
also they didnt give fishing tutoring, i found out from 2016's winter festival, my first holiday event.

after first 2 weeks, i learn about stablemaster and buying 10 slots when i got mage academy island unlocked, and vendor sells 10 slots unlocked each time.

Slick_007

starkerealm wrote: »

Second, if the person opening the chest has the treasure hunter passive, they actually get to roll on a superior loot table. So, again, if the other person had simply ignored the chest, then the second player would have gotten improved rolls.

this is not an argument. 'if they didnt loot i woulda got it all'. Your argument here is they shouldnt loot at all. Even with zero bag space they can still get gold and craft bag items. Its still worth sometimes time. more stuff for them, less for you. theres a little violin playing somewhere for you.

In general, partially looted chests are a rarity. However, it is rude. I understand if someone does it by accident, but expecting strangers to clean up after you because you can't be bothered is universally rude.

Whats rude is yours and other players attitude that everyone else should play the game to serve you.

My rule: if the bags full and something in the chest is worth more than something im carrying, i'll toss out the item and pick up the better one. If not, it stays there. Be thankful i leave you anything at all, because option 2 is you get nothing.

Sevn

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

I personally have auto loot on at all times, but if my inventory is full, and it often is, I have no compunctions about leaving vendor trash in a node.

The only reason people complain about those like me is because they were never taught how to properly handle disappointment in a healthy manner.

Is that right?

How's this, the only reason people like you find this behavior acceptable is because they were never taught proper manners?

In any regard no one is trying to change the behavior of the rude and inconsiderate, we are asking Zos to change the way nodes/chest behave within the game.

PlagueSD

phileunderx2 wrote: »

Stack of worms are easily worth 6k or more. Don't know why people leave them.

Because they don't have ESO+ and don't want to waste the inventory space.

I personally don't care. I just grab and go. If a chest is already unlocked, fine. I don't have to pick the lock or waste a lockpick by forcing the lock. There's a node with just bait? That's fine too. That'll just go in my crafting bag.

Judas Helviaryn

Sevn wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

I personally have auto loot on at all times, but if my inventory is full, and it often is, I have no compunctions about leaving vendor trash in a node.

The only reason people complain about those like me is because they were never taught how to properly handle disappointment in a healthy manner.

Is that right?

How's this, the only reason people like you find this behavior acceptable is because they were never taught proper manners?

In any regard no one is trying to change the behavior of the rude and inconsiderate, we are asking Zos to change the way nodes/chest behave within the game.

I was indeed taught proper manners as a child. I was also taught to think for myself, and accept the consequences of my actions, rather than try to avoid them like so many other people in every generation do.

I accept your vitriol, leveled directly at my personal character, as a consequence of the convenience I feel in leaving "trash" loot for others that I cannot pick up. Vitriol, such as it were, over a video game, and over something that again doesn't truly matter or bear any consequence on the world.

It's no great issue for me, as much as people will try to make it so.

Cpt_Teemo

Turelus wrote: »

Apparently this is already the case, at least for chests. Once they've been opened they're on a timer before they go.

This is what's been told to me in previous forums threads however I have no evidence of it myself.

Doesn't matter if the respawn timer kicks in right when its opened, its just annoying to clean after someone else

Cpt_Teemo

Zbigb4life wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

I know someone's gonna come in here and be like "not all of us have ESO plus!" Well that isn't a reason for you to inconvenience other players Buy some bag space upgrades with gold and grab those worms next time. This has always been something that really grinds my gears.

so its bad if they inconvenience you, but its ok for them to be inconvenienced having to deal with loot they dont want.
i see.

LOL what????

If they are inconveniencing THEMSELVES by picking up all loot than no one else is affected but them which is what you have to live with if you do not want to pay the money for ESO plus. Shifting that inconvenience on to ANOTHER PLAYER is rude and what is the problem.

Stop demanding what other people should do in their game. It is just a chest or node ffs

You just contradicted yourself, your also wasting other peoples time by leaving trash

Slick_007

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

your also wasting other peoples time by leaving trash

you guys are demanding we waste our time to serve you. yet complain when it happens to you.

i will leave items in chests and nodes when i feel like it and none of you arrogant clowns will make me feel bad for doing so, nor change my behaviour. The game should not be changed to accommodate you either, not least since most or all of your assumptions have on multiple occasions been proven wrong by players testing it. I dont have an issue looting partially looted stuff myself, and i see it as a non issue for you. In fact, the way you all get cut up about a non issue is highly amusing. You all should maybe try some yoga or something to relieve all this stress you accumulate getting shirty over something so trivial.

To those people complaining about players manners, you are likely the players indulging those freeloaders in the game who beg for free stuff and refuse to even say please. Theres a target audience for this complaint. have at it.

Sevn

@Judas Helviaryn

Let me get this straight, you make an insulting assumption about how others were raised, then play the victim card when called out about it? No, it doesn't seem like you learned about accountability nor how to take what you dish out.

My response to you was a direct reflection of your own insulting assumption about others. Nothing more, nothing less.

However, since you've brought up the subject of character-

How a person behaves when no one is around to govern their actions is a testament of their character. Your position that it's only a videogame so I can be as inconsiderate and ill mannered as I like is a direct reflection of your own character. Whether something is important or meaningful is irrelevant.

But by all means keep telling yourself I'm nothing like this when it matters lol.

Judas Helviaryn

Sevn wrote: »

@Judas Helviaryn

Let me get this straight, you make an insulting assumption about how others were raised, then play the victim card when called out about it? No, it doesn't seem like you learned about accountability nor how to take what you dish out.

My response to you was a direct reflection of your own insulting assumption about others. Nothing more, nothing less.

However, since you've brought up the subject of character-

How a person behaves when no one is around to govern their actions is a testament of their character. Your position that it's only a videogame so I can be as inconsiderate and ill mannered as I like is a direct reflection of your own character. Whether something is important or meaningful is irrelevant.

But by all means keep telling yourself I'm nothing like this when it matters lol.

I never said you were nothing, my friend. I simply said your hostile actions aren't potent enough to be an issue.
Read into it how you like, I'm seeing nothing but hatred from you.

FleetwoodSmack

Sevn wrote: »

@Judas Helviaryn

Let me get this straight, you make an insulting assumption about how others were raised, then play the victim card when called out about it? No, it doesn't seem like you learned about accountability nor how to take what you dish out.

My response to you was a direct reflection of your own insulting assumption about others. Nothing more, nothing less.

However, since you've brought up the subject of character-

How a person behaves when no one is around to govern their actions is a testament of their character. Your position that it's only a videogame so I can be as inconsiderate and ill mannered as I like is a direct reflection of your own character. Whether something is important or meaningful is irrelevant.

But by all means keep telling yourself I'm nothing like this when it matters lol.

You really must not like hand-me-downs. That's not trash. That's a feature.

Thank you ZoS!

starkerealm

Slick_007 wrote: »

this is not an argument.

In point of fact, it was a precise rebuttal of the statement that, "it doesn't matter because you'd get the same stuff anyway."

Slick_007 wrote: »

Whats rude is yours and other players attitude that everyone else should play the game to serve you.

No, it is rude to insert yourself into a discussion when you clearly don't understand the points articulated.

It is rude to leave your garbage strewn all over the place. That's not me expecting you to serve me, it's just an expectation of common courtesy. Now, if that's too onerous a burden, I understand, but don't expect me to thank you for that behavior.

Sevn

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

@Judas Helviaryn

Let me get this straight, you make an insulting assumption about how others were raised, then play the victim card when called out about it? No, it doesn't seem like you learned about accountability nor how to take what you dish out.

My response to you was a direct reflection of your own insulting assumption about others. Nothing more, nothing less.

However, since you've brought up the subject of character-

How a person behaves when no one is around to govern their actions is a testament of their character. Your position that it's only a videogame so I can be as inconsiderate and ill mannered as I like is a direct reflection of your own character. Whether something is important or meaningful is irrelevant.

But by all means keep telling yourself I'm nothing like this when it matters lol.

I never said you were nothing, my friend. I simply said your hostile actions aren't potent enough to be an issue.
Read into it how you like, I'm seeing nothing but hatred from you.

For clarity-
1-that last line was about you implying that when things matter, you're actually a well mannered person. M'kay pumpkin, if you say so.
2-you think very highly of yourself if you think some random stranger over the net can move me to hatred or affect my mood in any way for that matter. You're a nobody to me, as am I to you.

3-my tone is a direct reflection of your insulting assumptions that not only insulted folks directly, but their parents as well. I LOVE mocking folks who feel the need to insult others in an effort to justify their actions. You just don't like the taste of your own medicine.

4-one doesn't have to be upset to call out foul behavior. Silence implies approval, and I'd never approve of bad manners, REGARDLESS of where rude behavior is encountered.

Now in all honesty I've grown weary of this pointless back and forth since I have zero interest in trying to alter anyone elses behavior and I'd like to not be the reason this thread gets locked. As previously stated, my interest is in Zos altering the way players interact with nodes/chest. The last word is yours, good day to you.

Judas Helviaryn

Sevn wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

@Judas Helviaryn

Let me get this straight, you make an insulting assumption about how others were raised, then play the victim card when called out about it? No, it doesn't seem like you learned about accountability nor how to take what you dish out.

My response to you was a direct reflection of your own insulting assumption about others. Nothing more, nothing less.

However, since you've brought up the subject of character-

How a person behaves when no one is around to govern their actions is a testament of their character. Your position that it's only a videogame so I can be as inconsiderate and ill mannered as I like is a direct reflection of your own character. Whether something is important or meaningful is irrelevant.

But by all means keep telling yourself I'm nothing like this when it matters lol.

I never said you were nothing, my friend. I simply said your hostile actions aren't potent enough to be an issue.
Read into it how you like, I'm seeing nothing but hatred from you.

For clarity-
1-that last line was about you implying that when things matter, you're actually a well mannered person. M'kay pumpkin, if you say so.
2-you think very highly of yourself if you think some random stranger over the net can move me to hatred or affect my mood in any way for that matter. You're a nobody to me, as am I to you.

3-my tone is a direct reflection of your insulting assumptions that not only insulted folks directly, but their parents as well. I LOVE mocking folks who feel the need to insult others in what appears to mask their own insecurities. You just don't like the taste of your own medicine.

4-one doesn't have to be upset to call out foul behavior. Silence implies approval, and I'd never approve of bad manners, REGARDLESS of where rude behavior is encountered.

Now in all honesty I've grown weary of this pointless back and forth since I have zero interest in trying to alter anyone elses behavior and I'd like to not be the reason this thread gets locked. As previously stated, my interest is in Zos altering the way players interact with nodes/chest. The last word is yours, good day to you.

FleetwoodSmack

Sevn wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

@Judas Helviaryn

Let me get this straight, you make an insulting assumption about how others were raised, then play the victim card when called out about it? No, it doesn't seem like you learned about accountability nor how to take what you dish out.

My response to you was a direct reflection of your own insulting assumption about others. Nothing more, nothing less.

However, since you've brought up the subject of character-

How a person behaves when no one is around to govern their actions is a testament of their character. Your position that it's only a videogame so I can be as inconsiderate and ill mannered as I like is a direct reflection of your own character. Whether something is important or meaningful is irrelevant.

But by all means keep telling yourself I'm nothing like this when it matters lol.

I never said you were nothing, my friend. I simply said your hostile actions aren't potent enough to be an issue.
Read into it how you like, I'm seeing nothing but hatred from you.

For clarity-
1-that last line was about you implying that when things matter, you're actually a well mannered person. M'kay pumpkin, if you say so.
2-you think very highly of yourself if you think some random stranger over the net can move me to hatred or affect my mood in any way for that matter. You're a nobody to me, as am I to you.

3-my tone is a direct reflection of your insulting assumptions that not only insulted folks directly, but their parents as well. I LOVE mocking folks who feel the need to insult others in an effort to justify their actions. You just don't like the taste of your own medicine.

4-one doesn't have to be upset to call out foul behavior. Silence implies approval, and I'd never approve of bad manners, REGARDLESS of where rude behavior is encountered.

Now in all honesty I've grown weary of this pointless back and forth since I have zero interest in trying to alter anyone elses behavior and I'd like to not be the reason this thread gets locked. As previously stated, my interest is in Zos altering the way players interact with nodes/chest. The last word is yours, good day to you.

If you didn't care about changing someone's opinion or behavior, you wouldn't be writing a book. Just sayin'.

FleetwoodSmack

Sevn wrote: »

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

@Judas Helviaryn

Let me get this straight, you make an insulting assumption about how others were raised, then play the victim card when called out about it? No, it doesn't seem like you learned about accountability nor how to take what you dish out.

My response to you was a direct reflection of your own insulting assumption about others. Nothing more, nothing less.

However, since you've brought up the subject of character-

How a person behaves when no one is around to govern their actions is a testament of their character. Your position that it's only a videogame so I can be as inconsiderate and ill mannered as I like is a direct reflection of your own character. Whether something is important or meaningful is irrelevant.

But by all means keep telling yourself I'm nothing like this when it matters lol.

I never said you were nothing, my friend. I simply said your hostile actions aren't potent enough to be an issue.
Read into it how you like, I'm seeing nothing but hatred from you.

For clarity-
1-that last line was about you implying that when things matter, you're actually a well mannered person. M'kay pumpkin, if you say so.
2-you think very highly of yourself if you think some random stranger over the net can move me to hatred or affect my mood in any way for that matter. You're a nobody to me, as am I to you.

3-my tone is a direct reflection of your insulting assumptions that not only insulted folks directly, but their parents as well. I LOVE mocking folks who feel the need to insult others in an effort to justify their actions. You just don't like the taste of your own medicine.

4-one doesn't have to be upset to call out foul behavior. Silence implies approval, and I'd never approve of bad manners, REGARDLESS of where rude behavior is encountered.

Now in all honesty I've grown weary of this pointless back and forth since I have zero interest in trying to alter anyone elses behavior and I'd like to not be the reason this thread gets locked. As previously stated, my interest is in Zos altering the way players interact with nodes/chest. The last word is yours, good day to you.

If you didn't care about changing someone's opinion or behavior, you wouldn't be writing a book. Just sayin'.

Thanks for your input, I'll make sure to file it under worthless. Short enough for you?

You mean your TL:DR posts about chastising people for their behavior, but not wanting to change it? Sure! That's an awesome contribution to the community! That's the best idea you've had in this thread!

Sevn

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

@Judas Helviaryn

Let me get this straight, you make an insulting assumption about how others were raised, then play the victim card when called out about it? No, it doesn't seem like you learned about accountability nor how to take what you dish out.

My response to you was a direct reflection of your own insulting assumption about others. Nothing more, nothing less.

However, since you've brought up the subject of character-

How a person behaves when no one is around to govern their actions is a testament of their character. Your position that it's only a videogame so I can be as inconsiderate and ill mannered as I like is a direct reflection of your own character. Whether something is important or meaningful is irrelevant.

But by all means keep telling yourself I'm nothing like this when it matters lol.

I never said you were nothing, my friend. I simply said your hostile actions aren't potent enough to be an issue.
Read into it how you like, I'm seeing nothing but hatred from you.

For clarity-
1-that last line was about you implying that when things matter, you're actually a well mannered person. M'kay pumpkin, if you say so.
2-you think very highly of yourself if you think some random stranger over the net can move me to hatred or affect my mood in any way for that matter. You're a nobody to me, as am I to you.

3-my tone is a direct reflection of your insulting assumptions that not only insulted folks directly, but their parents as well. I LOVE mocking folks who feel the need to insult others in an effort to justify their actions. You just don't like the taste of your own medicine.

4-one doesn't have to be upset to call out foul behavior. Silence implies approval, and I'd never approve of bad manners, REGARDLESS of where rude behavior is encountered.

Now in all honesty I've grown weary of this pointless back and forth since I have zero interest in trying to alter anyone elses behavior and I'd like to not be the reason this thread gets locked. As previously stated, my interest is in Zos altering the way players interact with nodes/chest. The last word is yours, good day to you.

If you didn't care about changing someone's opinion or behavior, you wouldn't be writing a book. Just sayin'.

Thanks for your input, I'll make sure to file it under worthless. Short enough for you?

You mean your TL:DR posts about chastising people for their behavior, but not wanting to change it? Sure! That's an awesome contribution to the community! That's the best idea you've had in this thread!

As if adding your crusty 2cents to chastise me was a better contribution, but happy to help!