opinion on werewolf players?

coop500

So, what's your opinion on werewolf players? (I needed both okay? how could I not? Lol)

paulsimonps

Other? Or a mixture of the others.

They have a great look and flavor and are really strong in PvP. However they lack a lot for group play and especially group PvE play. In PvP group buffs and stuff are not given in the same manner and they can still be a great boon to a group. However they need to be given something more in terms of Group buffs or enemy debuffs to compete better in PvE.

Samadhi

Other? Or a mixture of the others.

Werewolf player, do not care how many others there are
Also Vampire player, same position
Share the gifts freely but not in it to see 'us' take over the world

DocFrost72

I am one but I wish there was more of us

A correctly built werewolf is good for most all content. Certainly not the best, but only because of how we get a single bar of abilities and almost non existent aoe.

What I'd like to see is more dots (onyxia wipe animation here), that would help our pve dps without overturning us for pvp, which is a valid concern.

It's disheartening to admit this, but werewolves play far better in packs than they do individually, and not enough players pack up for content. In boss fights, you can keep wolf for 36 seconds...not really all that great tbh. But, get three buddies, and that becomes almost 60. Hits still restore some, but not enough to stay in form usually.

SilentRaven1972

I am one but I wish there was more of us

I don't have the best builds, but WW has saved me, and sometimes my group in dungeons, many times.

coop500

I am one but I wish there was more of us

DocFrost72 wrote: »

A correctly built werewolf is good for most all content. Certainly not the best, but only because of how we get a single bar of abilities and almost non existent aoe.

What I'd like to see is more dots (onyxia wipe animation here), that would help our pve dps without overturning us for pvp, which is a valid concern.

It's disheartening to admit this, but werewolves play far better in packs than they do individually, and not enough players pack up for content. In boss fights, you can keep wolf for 36 seconds...not really all that great tbh. But, get three buddies, and that becomes almost 60. Hits still restore some, but not enough to stay in form usually.

I agree with just about all of this, I've actually been searching for a active PC NA guild that focuses around grouping up, there's a fun one for PC EU but not NA from my searches.

jssriot

Other? Or a mixture of the others.

I'm one and don't really care either way, unless it's Cyro and an enemy morphs into ww form. Then Ï'm like, "Good, now eat ALL mah posionz, mahawhawhaw."

So in PVE, don't care. In PVP, I like watching them melt, so more plz.

Chrlynsch

I am one but I wish there was more of us

But truthfully don't see very many others joining because holding form when in a group of four+ can still be annoying, IMO four werewolves should grant perma form. It really isn't hard to stay in form when it matters, especially with four active. It's the running between keeps, or turning in quests, or a quick afk that is normally does the Pack in... Heck even in a dungeon your are essentially doing a no death run with a pack as you can't resurrect without dropping form.

Make it easier for werewolves to play together, for a year and a half we were able to perma form, able to run though the planes of Cyrodiil to hunt. Where is the form topic saying werewolves were OP? That call of the pack needed fixed? I personally ran/run a group every Wednesday in Cyrodiil, an know countless frienemies that loved fighting against my werewolf groups, that it was breath of fresh air. It is much harder to do now and numbers are dropping because of it.

Pve is not so bad for groups, but in PVP, enemies release quick, and guards corpses disappear just as quick. The poor deer and critters of Cyrodiil disappeared years ago... your hurting no one but your paying customers.


PLEASE bring back the perma wolf pack...

Malic

Other? Or a mixture of the others.

Werewolf was great when you got the stam regen passive all the time. They changed it WW play fell off the map. If vamps can get thier passives all the time so should WW.

in terms of WW play, its mind numbingly simplistic in pve questing. Useless in most dungeons, and in pvp you cant really pull it off solo, unless youre getting 1v1's. PVP group you can do it, but there isnt any value added to a group if you are a WW.

So if they added a group buff to WW transformaiton? I dont know increased resistances or increased group stam regen? That would be a great start.

ParaNostram

I am one and I am pleased about how many there are of us

Honestly they're fun, novel, and capable if built right. That's what I wish Vampires were like rather than being the duh no brainer free stats that they are now (it's why Cyrodiil is ALL VAMPIRES, if they were made fun, novel, and capable if built right it'd be different)

Ragnarock41

I am one but I wish there was more of us

Kinda wished my DK was as good as my sorc for werewolf.
That being said I love werewolf raids.

Zimbugga

I am one but I wish there was more of us

Werewolves are good. They are sometimes like guardian angels in dungeons. For example, in Blackheart Haven last boss can't make them skeletons. I still can't understand how werewolves can't revive dead teammates... They have too big pawns?

Kram8ion

I'm not one but I don't mind them

Yes we need more

Morvane

In PVP they're fun to poison~ In PVE dungeons they're annoying to babysit from poison

Yesterday I met 2 WW in vetRandom, 1 of them was mana Dk, second - mana sorc...

AzraelKrieg

I'm not one but I don't mind them

They do their thing. It is cool seeing a werewolf run by with two wolves following them.

Beardimus

Other? Or a mixture of the others.

Another annoying poll

Goshua

Other? Or a mixture of the others.

Telel "In PvP, if properly supported they're a Line Breaker"

That one is wise.

Turelus

I am one and I am pleased about how many there are of us

I have one but it's not my main.

I like them and would actually enjoy playing one more if I wasn't so focused on getting achievements with my main character.

Fischblut

I am one and I am pleased about how many there are of us

I loved the old Pack Leader morph when I could get + 2 seconds from heavy attacks, and without those annoying wolf pets I remorphed to Berserker right after Dark Brotherhood launched... And rate of my own transformations went downhill since that day.

Would be much better if werewolf could be transformed as toggle, resurrect allies and use synergies.

woe

Other? Or a mixture of the others.

Go into dungeon, tank turns into a werewolf doesn't keep agro and then dies repeatedly while screaming "WHY AREN'T YOU *** HEALING ME".

I have never played with someone as a werewolf and had them actually help or do anything other than look stupid and swing their hairy arms around.

TankHealz2015

I am one and I am pleased about how many there are of us

If only could resurrect fallen allies in Cyridil...

M_Volsung

Got it, never use it... pretty sure the skill line is still sitting at 1.

Hezzie

I am one but I wish there was more of us

I am the GM of a WW guild, NA_EP and for the past year and half the highlight of our week has been Werewolf Wednesdays. With the dedication and creativity of our guildies, we have overcome most of the things WW's can't do by adding shepherds to our pack. This lets non ww's participate in raids by rezzing us, throwing down siege for us to use and setting up forward camps. The unannounced removal of PERMA FORM has made them redundant and participation has sharply declined from a full raid to just a handful. Staying in form now in PVP is a struggle with no wildlife, fast rezing npc's and enemies who hate being nom nomed on and usually results in some salty whispers.
We have developed gear set combos and potions to have great success in 4 wolf dungeons, but most know you barely have time to heal, never mind nom on trash to stay in form. Trials are doable too, with 9 wolves a tank and 2 healers (or vice versa).
All and all the FUN has been taken away, please bring back PERMA WOLF!!

technohic

Other? Or a mixture of the others.

I have one and do not care how many there are. A little QOL changes such as making it a toggle like overload and I think I'd be ecstatic with just that.

Jamini

Other? Or a mixture of the others.

You forgot the obvious poll option:

"Werewolf is absolute garbage unless you spec for it, and even then it's still kind of garbage."

Strider__Roshin

In PVP they're fun to poison~ In PVE dungeons they're annoying to babysit from poison

They're free AP essentially.

paulsimonps

Other? Or a mixture of the others.

Jamini wrote: »

You forgot the obvious poll option:

"Werewolf is absolute garbage unless you spec for it, and even then it's still kind of garbage."

Not in 1v1 PvP.

Strider__Roshin

In PVP they're fun to poison~ In PVE dungeons they're annoying to babysit from poison

paulsimonps wrote: »

Jamini wrote: »

You forgot the obvious poll option:

"Werewolf is absolute garbage unless you spec for it, and even then it's still kind of garbage."

Not in 1v1 PvP.

Even in 1v1

paulsimonps

Other? Or a mixture of the others.

Daus wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

Jamini wrote: »

You forgot the obvious poll option:

"Werewolf is absolute garbage unless you spec for it, and even then it's still kind of garbage."

Not in 1v1 PvP.

Even in 1v1

Then you have not seen a properly specced Werewolf.

ColdSteal

The loss of Perma Wolf when in a group of 4 or more has taken something fun away for absolutely no reason. When we run the wolf pack in pvp both our allies and our enemies always say how fun it is weve even had EP players log their AD or DC toons to go up against the wolf pack. ZOS gave no mention of getting rid of Perma Wolf not sure why they decided to do so, but this is the kinda of stuff that makes people unsubscribe from ESO plus. Maybe some streamer whined that seems to be the only way they do anything.

Blkadr

I'm not one but I don't mind them

deflorate wrote: »

Go into dungeon, tank turns into a werewolf doesn't keep agro and then dies repeatedly while screaming "WHY AREN'T YOU *** HEALING ME".

Please please please if you are a WW do not tank. I like them in all other circumstances.