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Glirion The Redbeard CHEST bugged ??????

Lucasalex92
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i Do assume that chest is broken if you use 50 key :
and you receive 35 iceheart shoulders and 10 pirate king and 5 something else
since few days im trying to get Grothdar and all i get all the time is BLOODY USELESS iceheart shoulders ! i dont want it !!! i dont neeed it !
there should be allowance to choose set item with random trait instead !
I will always need for more classes in the game... Monk Kung Fu Khajit - with martial art staff and straw hat, Alchemist - throwing bombs and potions , Bard as support rather then healer, and Arificer and Arifact collector of alyed and dwemer ruins
  • SodanTok
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    That is called RNG. Instead of submitting false bug report, pray to RNGesus
  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    Rng is cruel
  • SirAndy
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    SodanTok wrote: »
    That is called RNG. Instead of submitting false bug report, pray to RNGesus
    Actually, it's weighted RNG, which makes this not only possible, but highly likely.

    ESO has never had pure RNG ...
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  • Lucasalex92
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    Well, maybe they should have, should be equal its like Being Racist and Being allowed ! but not doing it publicly !
    I will always need for more classes in the game... Monk Kung Fu Khajit - with martial art staff and straw hat, Alchemist - throwing bombs and potions , Bard as support rather then healer, and Arificer and Arifact collector of alyed and dwemer ruins
  • SodanTok
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    SodanTok wrote: »
    That is called RNG. Instead of submitting false bug report, pray to RNGesus
    Actually, it's weighted RNG, which makes this not only possible, but highly likely.

    ESO has never had pure RNG ...
    shades.gif

    If that keeps you sane after bad RNG streak. Keep believing that.
    Edited by SodanTok on November 6, 2017 10:20PM
  • SirAndy
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    SodanTok wrote: »
    If that keeps you sane after bad RNG streak. Keep believing that.
    You obviously havn't paid much attention to the subject, of course the loot tables are weighted ...
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  • DarcyMardin
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    It took me something like 70 keys to get Grothdar. I have very bad RNG luck.
  • Lucasalex92
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    It took me something like 70 keys to get Grothdar. I have very bad RNG luck.

    Really ?
    gosh ... thats like 1000 of hours lol doing dungs with right people , and hence u cant put keys in bank , its bad really bad lol
    I will always need for more classes in the game... Monk Kung Fu Khajit - with martial art staff and straw hat, Alchemist - throwing bombs and potions , Bard as support rather then healer, and Arificer and Arifact collector of alyed and dwemer ruins
  • KRBMMO
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    It took me something like 70 keys to get Grothdar. I have very bad RNG luck.

    Really ?
    gosh ... thats like 1000 of hours lol doing dungs with right people , and hence u cant put keys in bank , its bad really bad lol

    It's almost better to look at what shoulder pieces you got and then build a character around that. I got Chudan infused light shoulders with my first undaunted key - guess maybe I should just level up a tank lol. Probably be faster than getting the shoulders I want.

  • SodanTok
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    SodanTok wrote: »
    If that keeps you sane after bad RNG streak. Keep believing that.
    You obviously havn't paid much attention to the subject, of course the loot tables are weighted ...
    type.gif

    It is possible. I will gladly get educated on that matter with some extensive proof. Last data I saw around 1T release and it showed no weight towards set, type or even trait.
    Edited by SodanTok on November 7, 2017 10:56AM
  • Actually_Goku
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    I've been counting - RNGesus hates me.

    62 keys used on GTR's chest.

    12 Nerieneth
    23 Iceheart
    19 Stormfist
    5 Pirate Skeleton
    3 Grothdarr

    All I want is Skoria :(
  • Hippie4927
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    I've been counting - RNGesus hates me.

    62 keys used on GTR's chest.

    12 Nerieneth
    23 Iceheart
    19 Stormfist
    5 Pirate Skeleton
    3 Grothdarr

    All I want is Skoria :(

    You must have really bad luck! I used 2 keys and got Skoria with both.....one infused and one well-fit.
    Edited by Hippie4927 on November 25, 2017 6:48AM
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    Transmutation & Golden vendor are your friend.
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Transmutation & Golden vendor are your friend.

    I need the shoulders, not the helm
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Transmutation & Golden vendor are your friend.
    Transmutation is useless if you can't get the item
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  • MJallday
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    i Do assume that chest is broken if you use 50 key :
    and you receive 35 iceheart shoulders and 10 pirate king and 5 something else
    since few days im trying to get Grothdar and all i get all the time is BLOODY USELESS iceheart shoulders ! i dont want it !!! i dont neeed it !
    there should be allowance to choose set item with random trait instead !

    it wont help you but i have lots of grothdaar and im after iceheart.

    RNGs do that to you....
  • pdebie64b16_ESO
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    80 keys before ive got Stormfist medium divines.
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    80 keys before ive got Stormfist medium divines.

    lot im after that- got it in reinforced... .thank heavens for transmutes...
  • Apherius
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    i Do assume that chest is broken if you use 50 key :
    and you receive 35 iceheart shoulders and 10 pirate king and 5 something else
    since few days im trying to get Grothdar and all i get all the time is BLOODY USELESS iceheart shoulders ! i dont want it !!! i dont neeed it !
    there should be allowance to choose set item with random trait instead !

    Random trait ... you can transmute these thing you know ? What would be the point to get what you want just by doing 1 pledge ?

    I'm not in favor the RNG ,and not agains't either , I just thing that Pledges are currently useless once you get everything you need so ... don't need to make them even more useless.
  • Anrose
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Transmutation & Golden vendor are your friend.

    I need the shoulders, not the helm

    Shoulders are in The Golden’s loot table.
  • Lucasalex92
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    Actually there should be button showing you set u want but when u press it , it would be giving you item with random trait that way u can transmute trait and get your stuff what u want !
    I will always need for more classes in the game... Monk Kung Fu Khajit - with martial art staff and straw hat, Alchemist - throwing bombs and potions , Bard as support rather then healer, and Arificer and Arifact collector of alyed and dwemer ruins
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    SodanTok wrote: »
    If that keeps you sane after bad RNG streak. Keep believing that.
    You obviously havn't paid much attention to the subject, of course the loot tables are weighted ...
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    That is 100% nonsense. I have thousands of keys that I've done opening sprees with on the PTS. There is absolutely no weighting or bias in any way, shape, or form.

    You are falling prey to the common statistical fallacy that Random = Even Distribution. That is true only for large sample sizes. For small samples--a couple hundred or fewer (37 is a tiny sample set)--the likelihood of streaks is decent. If people never got streaks and instead got really event distributions all the time with small sets, then that's when I'll call shenanigans, because that would not be natural.
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  • Alamakot
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    It seems not only Gilirion chest have problems with rng -few days ago i've been trying to obtain Earthgore from middle chest, spent several keys. bad luck again -2 or 3 Kenas, 2 Veli and the rest was Domihaus
  • sevomd69
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    Still haven't dropped a heavy Stormfist...ever...any trait...after hundreds of keys...
  • Mystrius_Archaion
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    All the RNG calculations are server side also, so a streak can be practically permanent on any one character gettign the exact same thing over and over.

    As for streaks being common as seen in game though, they shouldn't be that specific an item. Yes, streaks are likely like a coin flip heads or tails coming up tails 50 times in a row then heads 50 times in a row, but we are dealing with monster mask sets number more than 10 base types with variations after that.
    It's more than a little odd that a random 1/10 comes up 35/50 times. That seems like weighted drop chance making some "less desirable items" more common than "more desirable" when we haven't been told such weighting exists in this system.

    I am calling shenanigans on the drop chance code.
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    All the RNG calculations are server side also, so a streak can be practically permanent on any one character gettign the exact same thing over and over.

    As for streaks being common as seen in game though, they shouldn't be that specific an item. Yes, streaks are likely like a coin flip heads or tails coming up tails 50 times in a row then heads 50 times in a row, but we are dealing with monster mask sets number more than 10 base types with variations after that.
    It's more than a little odd that a random 1/10 comes up 35/50 times. That seems like weighted drop chance making some "less desirable items" more common than "more desirable" when we haven't been told such weighting exists in this system.

    I am calling shenanigans on the drop chance code.

    We dont see streaks. We see people mentioning they had streak and people saying nothing when they dont.
    Given nature of RNG and amount of people playing, there will be fair amount of players getting bad set several times in a row and even more players getting simply something else than what they want. All of them will feel need to complain.

    The only reason this thread exists is because OP did not get set he wanted and got unusual amount of different set. I am posititve he would not create this thread if he received the piece he wanted (no matter how many iceheart he got before)
    Edited by SodanTok on December 4, 2017 10:44AM
  • Actually_Goku
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    Still no Skoria a week later... Though I finally got Selene, Infernal and Illambris!
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