Vulkhel Guard(Auridon location). Сorpses on the streets of the city constantly.

The_Smilemeister

I don't get it. Is this a nerf Sorc thread, or can I have your stuff please?

AzraelKrieg

OpponentSmile66 wrote: »

I don't get it. Is this a nerf Sorc thread, or can I have your stuff please?

It was a "people killing NPCs is ruining my immersion and they shouldn't be allowed to do it since it's upsetting me and not letting me play as I want" thread.

The_Smilemeister

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

OpponentSmile66 wrote: »

I don't get it. Is this a nerf Sorc thread, or can I have your stuff please?

It was a "people killing NPCs is ruining my immersion and they shouldn't be allowed to do it since it's upsetting me and not letting me play as I want" thread.

Ah... so can I have your stuff please?

AzraelKrieg

OpponentSmile66 wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

OpponentSmile66 wrote: »

I don't get it. Is this a nerf Sorc thread, or can I have your stuff please?

It was a "people killing NPCs is ruining my immersion and they shouldn't be allowed to do it since it's upsetting me and not letting me play as I want" thread.

Ah... so can I have your stuff please?

Can't have mine. Ask Nord Templar if you can have his though

Vrienda

I wish ZOS would let us chain-kill people with blade of woe so we could have more corpses to look at.

SirMewser

Resurrected...?

Nord_Templar

Vrienda wrote: »

I wish ZOS would let us chain-kill people with blade of woe so we could have more corpses to look at.

Tell me honestly, you were beaten in the face qualitatively, at least once in your life?...The reason for your obsession with violence in the virtual world, most likely in this. If you knew what violence is in real life, you would not be aiming for it in the game.

Yuls

I seriously can't believe folks were discussing over 3 pages without anyone pointing out that racist bs the OP stated in his first post.

Yuk.

AzraelKrieg

Yuls wrote: »

I seriously can't believe folks were discussing over 3 pages without anyone pointing out that racist bs the OP stated in his first post.

Yuk.

I didn't notice that until you pointed it out only because I read the first part of his post and skipped everything else to read what everyone commented.

Edit: I just recalled that the OP edited his post previously so the racist comment may have been added after the fact.

altemriel

Sithis is pleased!!!


(but appart from trolling, maybe the corpses could vanish faster, after the kill, at least)

zaria

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

I know what you mean. It’s disheartening for sure to see the streets piled up with bodies.

I threw immersion out the door when SmokieDaHerb69 and YoloBlazeit420 are blasting rap music and making loud smoke/water inhales/exhales noises on voice chat.

This explains why the drop chance for the Khajiit skooma bubbler was nerfed.

Enslaved

Nord_Templar wrote: »

Vulkhel Guard(Auridon location) - the best city in the game, to improve the skill of "pocket theft", and to pump the skill "Legerdemain". Here, the largest number of non-player characters on the streets, who can be cleaned.
  But there are players who interfere with playing and spoiling the game. I'm talking about regular massacres at Vulkhel Guard.
[Snip].
 I propose to prohibit the killing of peaceful people in cities to prohibit such trolling in the game.

[Edited to remove inappropriate content]

I agree with this, but now you will be attacked and several dozens of edgy mediocre players that will call you names, accuse you of trolling and will do their best to show what they see as masculine behavior toward what they see as feminine "I cry over dead NPCs" stuff. It will bring them few reputation points on forum, from the like minded wannabe edgy ppl, and that is it.
Zos does not care about this problem and will not do anything to solve it in near future. As so many aspects in ESO, justice system is lazy, boring and immersion breaking.

uzbachchi

kamimark wrote: »

I "do allow to" increase Legerdemain (also it would not hurt you to learn Mage's Guild > Proper English, the morph of Persuade), there are plenty of yellow victims everywhere in the world for you to practice on.

I'm not supporting the OPs position because I don't think that NPC corpses are a problem, but picking on someone's English skills definitely *is* a problem. English probably isn't their first language. Let's see you speak perfect Hindi or Japanese or any other language you aren't fluent in and make yourself understood as well as OP did. It's perfectly possible to dissect someone's argument without being a xenophobic/racist pedant, go figure.

Runschei

Make NPC unkillable, well how are we supposed to get the mass murderer achievement then?

VaranisArano

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm doing Tamriel a favor by murdering those holy and devout priests and priestesses.

Holy & Devout! HAH! You have no idea.

Take a look in those pockets sometime. Veiled Heritance codebooks, daedric implements, Human skulls. These aren't innocent people. These are wolves in sheep's clothing.

Cadbury

The high crime rate is sadly a sign of our times. People are being let out or escaping their dungeon cells every day at an alarming rate. Why am I paying the guard's fees if they can't even do their jobs?

Apache_Kid

Enslaved wrote: »

Nord_Templar wrote: »

Vulkhel Guard(Auridon location) - the best city in the game, to improve the skill of "pocket theft", and to pump the skill "Legerdemain". Here, the largest number of non-player characters on the streets, who can be cleaned.
  But there are players who interfere with playing and spoiling the game. I'm talking about regular massacres at Vulkhel Guard.
[Snip].
 I propose to prohibit the killing of peaceful people in cities to prohibit such trolling in the game.

[Edited to remove inappropriate content]

I agree with this, but now you will be attacked and several dozens of edgy mediocre players that will call you names, accuse you of trolling and will do their best to show what they see as masculine behavior toward what they see as feminine "I cry over dead NPCs" stuff. It will bring them few reputation points on forum, from the like minded wannabe edgy ppl, and that is it.
Zos does not care about this problem and will not do anything to solve it in near future. As so many aspects in ESO, justice system is lazy, boring and immersion breaking.

How can you even begin to complain about your immersion being broken in an MMO?

There are 5 other single-player Elder Scrolls games you can go play if you want immersion but instead you want people be punished for trying to increase skills that are in the game. Immersion? Such a joke. No one is trying to be 'edgy' we just aren't role-players who demand everyone cater to your dorky play-style.

TheValkyn

If ZOS wouldn't have canned their original vision for the Justice System you would be able to stop them yourself. I still don't know why they made that compromise. The tech is there with the dueling system to temporarily flag for pvp.

Enslaved

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Nord_Templar wrote: »

Vulkhel Guard(Auridon location) - the best city in the game, to improve the skill of "pocket theft", and to pump the skill "Legerdemain". Here, the largest number of non-player characters on the streets, who can be cleaned.
  But there are players who interfere with playing and spoiling the game. I'm talking about regular massacres at Vulkhel Guard.
[Snip].
 I propose to prohibit the killing of peaceful people in cities to prohibit such trolling in the game.

[Edited to remove inappropriate content]

I agree with this, but now you will be attacked and several dozens of edgy mediocre players that will call you names, accuse you of trolling and will do their best to show what they see as masculine behavior toward what they see as feminine "I cry over dead NPCs" stuff. It will bring them few reputation points on forum, from the like minded wannabe edgy ppl, and that is it.
Zos does not care about this problem and will not do anything to solve it in near future. As so many aspects in ESO, justice system is lazy, boring and immersion breaking.

How can you even begin to complain about your immersion being broken in an MMO?

There are 5 other single-player Elder Scrolls games you can go play if you want immersion but instead you want people be punished for trying to increase skills that are in the game. Immersion? Such a joke. No one is trying to be 'edgy' we just aren't role-players who demand everyone cater to your dorky play-style.

If you enjoy the braindead justice system we have, go, have fun. But dont you dare make others to "cater to your dorky play-style".
We want justice system to be improved. So much wasted potential.

Apache_Kid

TheValkyn wrote: »

If ZOS wouldn't have canned their original vision for the Justice System you would be able to stop them yourself. I still don't know why they made that compromise. The tech is there with the dueling system to temporarily flag for pvp.

Maybe they didn't want players who were trying to increase their thieving skill lines to have to spend even more time doing it because someone wants to RP as a town guard. This would be nothing except a way for a player to waste another player's limited play-time.

velitar

1. Why only one town in the game became a training ground for mass murderers?
2. Why are there no mass murders in the Alikr Desert location, where redguards(tanned) live ?
3. If someone condemns crimes against humanity, accusing the game of cynicism and cruel brutality, why is this person being expelled from the Forum, because of "racism"?

And are not all these suspicious elements part of one picture?
  It is forbidden to talk about politics, but this is a game of 18+, and so many things in this game are obviously similar to real life. Double standards - you can kill and earn on this, but you can not talk about it.

Cadbury

velitar wrote: »

1. Why only one location in the game became a training ground for mass murderers?
2. Why are there no mass murders in the Alikr Desert location, where redguards(tanned) live ?
3. If someone condemns crimes against humanity, accusing the game of cynicism and cruel brutality, why is this person being expelled from the Forum, because of "racism"?

1.Easy rotation to farm for pockets. Not the only place, ofc.
2. It's spaced out pretty far, so lots of travelling between targets.
3. Can't be discussed

Apache_Kid

Enslaved wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Nord_Templar wrote: »

Vulkhel Guard(Auridon location) - the best city in the game, to improve the skill of "pocket theft", and to pump the skill "Legerdemain". Here, the largest number of non-player characters on the streets, who can be cleaned.
  But there are players who interfere with playing and spoiling the game. I'm talking about regular massacres at Vulkhel Guard.
[Snip].
 I propose to prohibit the killing of peaceful people in cities to prohibit such trolling in the game.

[Edited to remove inappropriate content]

I agree with this, but now you will be attacked and several dozens of edgy mediocre players that will call you names, accuse you of trolling and will do their best to show what they see as masculine behavior toward what they see as feminine "I cry over dead NPCs" stuff. It will bring them few reputation points on forum, from the like minded wannabe edgy ppl, and that is it.
Zos does not care about this problem and will not do anything to solve it in near future. As so many aspects in ESO, justice system is lazy, boring and immersion breaking.

How can you even begin to complain about your immersion being broken in an MMO?

There are 5 other single-player Elder Scrolls games you can go play if you want immersion but instead you want people be punished for trying to increase skills that are in the game. Immersion? Such a joke. No one is trying to be 'edgy' we just aren't role-players who demand everyone cater to your dorky play-style.

If you enjoy the braindead justice system we have, go, have fun. But dont you dare make others to "cater to your dorky play-style".
We want justice system to be improved. So much wasted potential.

Please explain how you feel entitled to immersion when there are literally millions of others playing the game with you who's interests directly conflict with your precious immersion?

Enslaved

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Nord_Templar wrote: »

Vulkhel Guard(Auridon location) - the best city in the game, to improve the skill of "pocket theft", and to pump the skill "Legerdemain". Here, the largest number of non-player characters on the streets, who can be cleaned.
  But there are players who interfere with playing and spoiling the game. I'm talking about regular massacres at Vulkhel Guard.
[Snip].
 I propose to prohibit the killing of peaceful people in cities to prohibit such trolling in the game.

[Edited to remove inappropriate content]

I agree with this, but now you will be attacked and several dozens of edgy mediocre players that will call you names, accuse you of trolling and will do their best to show what they see as masculine behavior toward what they see as feminine "I cry over dead NPCs" stuff. It will bring them few reputation points on forum, from the like minded wannabe edgy ppl, and that is it.
Zos does not care about this problem and will not do anything to solve it in near future. As so many aspects in ESO, justice system is lazy, boring and immersion breaking.

How can you even begin to complain about your immersion being broken in an MMO?

There are 5 other single-player Elder Scrolls games you can go play if you want immersion but instead you want people be punished for trying to increase skills that are in the game. Immersion? Such a joke. No one is trying to be 'edgy' we just aren't role-players who demand everyone cater to your dorky play-style.

If you enjoy the braindead justice system we have, go, have fun. But dont you dare make others to "cater to your dorky play-style".
We want justice system to be improved. So much wasted potential.

Please explain how you feel entitled to immersion when there are literally millions of others playing the game with you who's interests directly conflict with your precious immersion?

Unbelievable.
Well. I cannot explain to ones that do not want to understand.
Anyways, I will try.

Current justice system is by far the worst one I ever saw. Why is wanting it to be better such a big problem for you? Does everything have to be simplified to a level of complete boredom for you to "enjoy" ESO?

It is similar with other stuff in game. Developers showed us more than once they can create challenging content and interesting delves/dungeons for all of us to explore. Yet, we have like 50 of them being boring doughnut shaped tubes of laziness. If you disagree with this, there is nothing to talk about.

Why should not stealing/killing become more about risk and reward, making it interesting even for seasoned thieves/assassins? There were more than a few threads on this topic and even if not every idea was great, anything is better than what we have now. If you think this has to do anything with entitlement or whatever, then go, enjoy stagnating justice system we have now.

Apache_Kid

Enslaved wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Nord_Templar wrote: »

Vulkhel Guard(Auridon location) - the best city in the game, to improve the skill of "pocket theft", and to pump the skill "Legerdemain". Here, the largest number of non-player characters on the streets, who can be cleaned.
  But there are players who interfere with playing and spoiling the game. I'm talking about regular massacres at Vulkhel Guard.
[Snip].
 I propose to prohibit the killing of peaceful people in cities to prohibit such trolling in the game.

[Edited to remove inappropriate content]

I agree with this, but now you will be attacked and several dozens of edgy mediocre players that will call you names, accuse you of trolling and will do their best to show what they see as masculine behavior toward what they see as feminine "I cry over dead NPCs" stuff. It will bring them few reputation points on forum, from the like minded wannabe edgy ppl, and that is it.
Zos does not care about this problem and will not do anything to solve it in near future. As so many aspects in ESO, justice system is lazy, boring and immersion breaking.

How can you even begin to complain about your immersion being broken in an MMO?

There are 5 other single-player Elder Scrolls games you can go play if you want immersion but instead you want people be punished for trying to increase skills that are in the game. Immersion? Such a joke. No one is trying to be 'edgy' we just aren't role-players who demand everyone cater to your dorky play-style.

If you enjoy the braindead justice system we have, go, have fun. But dont you dare make others to "cater to your dorky play-style".
We want justice system to be improved. So much wasted potential.

Please explain how you feel entitled to immersion when there are literally millions of others playing the game with you who's interests directly conflict with your precious immersion?

Unbelievable.
Well. I cannot explain to ones that do not want to understand.
Anyways, I will try.

Current justice system is by far the worst one I ever saw. Why is wanting it to be better such a big problem for you? Does everything have to be simplified to a level of complete boredom for you to "enjoy" ESO?

It is similar with other stuff in game. Developers showed us more than once they can create challenging content and interesting delves/dungeons for all of us to explore. Yet, we have like 50 of them being boring doughnut shaped tubes of laziness. If you disagree with this, there is nothing to talk about.

Why should not stealing/killing become more about risk and reward, making it interesting even for seasoned thieves/assassins? There were more than a few threads on this topic and even if not every idea was great, anything is better than what we have now. If you think this has to do anything with entitlement or whatever, then go, enjoy stagnating justice system we have now.

Why would I want it changed? So my attempting to increase my thieving skills takes longer because you want to RP as a town guard to try and make me spend more of my limited playtime?
Thieving and pickpocketting are NOT fun activities. We do them because there are in-game achievements and certain items only drop that way in the game. You want the ability to go into PvE zones and waste the time of other players by dragging them into a PvP battle because they stole 40 gold treasure from a character in a video game. Sorry but you are not entitled to the ability to waste my limited play-time.

velitar

I'll never buy a game like "hack and slash," such as Assassin Creed, because I can never play for a character that kills just for money.
Is it really difficult to understand that to steal and kill for pleasure is a vile thing?
  This is not a game that is called " RPG"". I'm talking about the traditional fantasy RPG, with a good storyline that was written by intelligent people who know the history and culture of human civilization.

VaranisArano

ZOS already considered an enforcement system back when they were designing the justice system. They scrapped it, largely because of the potential for griefing and an overwhelming response of DO NOT WANT from the PVE players who do the majority of justice system content.

Furthermore, ZOS keeps gating new content like motifs and furnishing behind justice system activities like thieving and murdering. Shockingly, ZOS actually wants players to participate in the Justice System, using the content from the DLCs like Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood.

In short, you are free to complain about players playing the in-game content all you want. ZOS is going to continue to support players who play the in-game content they bought. Your immersions, no matter how ruined, are not where the money's at.

Cadbury

velitar wrote: »

I'll never buy a game like "hack and slash," such as Assassin Creed, because I can never play for a character that kills just for money.
Is it really difficult to understand that to steal and kill for pleasure is a vile thing?
  This is not a game that is called " RPG"". I'm talking about the traditional fantasy RPG, with a good storyline that was written by intelligent people who know the history and culture of human civilization.

This isn't like D&D, where you're encouraged to play your character following a set of rules and guidelines. The system ESO uses is severely limited in comparison.

However you own ethics are, not everyone adheres to the same ideals as you.

VaranisArano

velitar wrote: »

I'll never buy a game like "hack and slash," such as Assassin Creed, because I can never play for a character that kills just for money.
Is it really difficult to understand that to steal and kill for pleasure is a vile thing?
  This is not a game that is called " RPG"". I'm talking about the traditional fantasy RPG, with a good storyline that was written by intelligent people who know the history and culture of human civilization.

My assassin character kills for the Night Mother and Sithis, who are established parts of the lore in this traditional Elder Scrolls RPG. So...deal with it?

Hokiewa

Good grief.....