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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

For those of you who feel the drop rate is bad with crown crates: 225 crown crates later...

  • ZOS_KatP
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    Hi all,

    We've gone through and removed several posts because they were not constructive to the discussion. While we understand that opinions about crown crates differ, please be sure to voice those opinions appropriately.

    Thanks,
    KatP
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  • chuck-18_ESO
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    Smmokkee wrote: »
    ZOS_KatP wrote: »
    Hi all,

    We've gone through and removed several posts because they were not constructive to the discussion. While we understand that opinions about crown crates differ, please be sure to voice those opinions appropriately.

    Thanks,
    KatP

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    Untrue. I've had very good luck with Crown crates, and it's definitely encouraged me to play more. I got the Plague Husk in my first free crate, and during the Wild Hunt season I got a mount in my 12th I think, as well as the pet and costume I wanted, as well as a decent haul of gems to go towards the statue.

    Not that I'm defending Crown crates themselves; I would much, much rather buy the things I want. But I can't deny that when the RNG is good, it's encouraging.

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    Edited by ZOS_KatP on September 30, 2017 4:40PM
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  • Bigevilpeter
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    Sorry man you got no ine to blame but yourself, you gambled for pointless pixels and lost a ton of money. At least those who do normal gambling get real money if they win, but 75000 crowns to get mounts, I can't even...
  • Agobi
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    Ekadzati wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno - suggestions to improve the experience overall:

    1. Consider using the True Random API for your ENG - https://www.random.org
    2. Consider offering straight up PURCHASE of specific items (seriously, there needs to be some rethinking on all of this, you've even burned ME out and you KNOW how I love me some crown store items).
    3. Consider making a regular stipend of crates OR user's choice from a limited selection of items per month (when +).

    Why would they ever change anything?

    They have ......people throwing heaps of money at them,and they are laughing all the way to the bank...:D

  • bloodthirstyvampire
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    For all of you that think people with addictions deserve what they get and must be stupid something.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/12/losing-it-all/505814/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD69PAIqiYo

    "What's more addictive than an MMORPG!?!?!"[/quote]


    Oh that was funny funniest vid I've seen all day
    Edited by bloodthirstyvampire on September 30, 2017 8:07PM
  • geonsocal
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    grannas211 wrote: »
    My favorite part of this forum is people who can't afford or don't want to spend on crown crates get so angry over those that do. Every one of your tears is another crate for me.

    yeah okay - but, that might not be such a great life's credo...

    i'm sure there must be some ominous sounding metaphor or allegory relating to quenching one's thirst on the tears of others...
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  • Kildayen
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    Sorry man you got no ine to blame but yourself, you gambled for pointless pixels and lost a ton of money. At least those who do normal gambling get real money if they win, but 75000 crowns to get mounts, I can't even...

    Why the apology? Blame myself about what? Did you even read my post? Did I even want a mount? Was I crying about losing crowns? No. I was letting people know how bad my drop rate was. Thanks for reading.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    idk wrote: »
    I've had no issues with the crown crates. Everyone I have purchased has dropped an cool mount, costume or other.

    Every crown crate I have purchased has contained an Apex mount.

    Not coincidentally, I have never purchased a crown crate.
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    Hahahaha Bro I spent 25k crowns on crates and got almost every single thing except a mount or the 3 special ones haha RNGesus hates me! Lol. All good though. Got enough gems and then some to get some skelly mounts. Will wait till next year for another attempt at those special ones.

    Cheers!
  • lagrue
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    Tyrobag wrote: »
    You single handily make crown crates worth selling for Zo$...

    Since you're throwing money away can I have some? I can even give you boxes with random useless crap in them if you want :o

    Ooo, what did I get inside this one?

    (Blue) Empty Saltshaker
    (White) Mismatched bits of Construction Paper
    (White) Half of a 950ml bottle of Elmer's Washable School Glue (dried out)
    (Yellow) *gasps* "oh ***, what's it gonna be" - 3 Packets of Mr. Noodle Ramen Sauce taped together

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  • geonsocal
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    pacrooti must die...
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  • Sneaky-Snurr
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    Kinda happy to see a lot of people spending soo much money into crown crates.
    At least ZoS have the money to improve the game. In which the fixes and improvements will come in the next century.
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  • Yarlenzey
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    Kildayen wrote: »
    lol.
    yeeahright...

    The real jokes are:
    I almost bought the mini pack with the senche-kitten in it.
    I don't need to now, because it somehow transformed itself into a 'reaper' crate-object and is my **best** drop to-date.

    Another joke is the adding costumes that used to be crown store items as 'reaper'. The orc outfit..
    What? Do they have a pile of these virtual items in stacked up a virtual cupboard somewhere?

    Of course, if I had been unlucky enough to get one of these items, It would have been replaced by 1/3 of it's value in gems.

    Australian pricing has gone up 20% from 40 to 50 AUD. Maybe I didn't notice that, but I did....

    The only thing that would have made this experience less enjoyable would have been more purple lipstick.



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  • Dracofyre
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    welcome to casino online....oh sorry, had to get that off my chest.

    not sure if RNG really mean and nasty, or might be a victim of Wi-flag code.

    i had seen someone on other game got incrediable lucky streak pulling rarest item from lockboxes 3-4 in a row and some other players pulled junks over and over for 3-4 years, and decide to erase that character, and reroll with different names and got lucky few times, heard his scream, WTH??? on my headphone, and he also heard an urban legend of wi-flag coding from years ago from other game.

    if you think you might had character during creation may came with cursed coding were thrown on, try different character and different names. each character has hidden blueprints, even the devs may not aware or deny if that exist.

    someone with winning streak for so long, and others may think there is hack in code, but it not. these devs wont find it right away, it will take months to find it deep in matrix, and Turbinegames team did find it and they change character creation. that team no long around since warner bros laid them off.
  • Datolite
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    I've said this before but it bears repeating...

    Do NOT buy crown crates.

    Stop perpetuating a terrible, RNG reward system in a progression-based game. This is not a Korean MMO.

    Stop enabling real-money gambling in video games. If you buy crates, you are part of the problem.

    They were designed to take advantage of people with too much money or not enough self-control. Don't be that chump.

    When you buy crates you not only waste money, but you screw up the game for the rest of us.

    So before ZOS takes a page from the EA bible...

    Stop buying crown crates!
  • Axoinus
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    Kildayen wrote: »
    ...

    I just opened 225 crown crates and have not gotten 1 mount yet lol. Yes, that is 75,000 crowns I just spent.

    In the past I have gotten most of the mounts from a lot less crates. This time it is not even close with how bad the drop rate is for me....

    Thank you for supporting the game.

  • RupzSkooma
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    It is working as intended.
    And I really like the system if it is used properly.
    They can really use some of the fund to invest in future expansions and *cough* better server.
    However they could have given u at least one or 2 apex mounts so that u get the intensive to buy even more crates.
    You did your job of funding future DLCs so thank you.
    Don't let these dissapoint u ..Buy 200 more and see...I bet u will get at least 1 hidden mount. (:
    Edited by RupzSkooma on December 29, 2017 2:21PM
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  • Ermiq
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    @Dracofyre
    Wow! I never heard about Wi-Flag. Did some google search and found its history with a dev's letter to players with an explanation of this bug. Very interesting story.
    Also, nowadays, developers rarely talk to their players in that manner they used to. Turbine team has explained all, it really seems like open-doors-development with no secrets. It's sad that we don't see such conversation in modern game industry.
    One of the two of us definitely has gone mad. It only remains to define whether this one is the whole world or just me.

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  • Pops_ND_Irish
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    Kildayen wrote: »
    I have a ton of crowns to waste because I load up on them every time they are on sale and there is rarely anything I ever want to buy from the crown store.

    I just opened 225 crown crates and have not gotten 1 mount yet lol. Yes, that is 75,000 crowns I just spent.

    In the past I have gotten most of the mounts from a lot less crates. This time it is not even close with how bad the drop rate is for me.

    Hey @ZOS_GinaBruno did they lower the mount drop rate? Did they add some kind of algorithm to work against those who have a load of crowns saved up because they know we throw our money at ZOS? I know it is supposed to be bad, but this is hilarious lol

    I could buy all the mounts with the amount of crown gems I have saved up, but i'm not really interested in them. I just want to see how bad the drop rate can really be. Do I keep going?

    PS: For those of you who love to troll, I give you permission to freely troll because I know you just can't hold back.

    So you spent all those crowns, just so you could whine about the drop rate ? hehe
    Don't buy! end of problem
    But then what what would you have to whine about
    Edited by Pops_ND_Irish on December 29, 2017 3:52PM
  • Ermiq
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    MoTeets wrote: »
    Kildayen wrote: »
    I have a ton of crowns to waste because I load up on them every time they are on sale and there is rarely anything I ever want to buy from the crown store.

    I just opened 225 crown crates and have not gotten 1 mount yet lol. Yes, that is 75,000 crowns I just spent.

    In the past I have gotten most of the mounts from a lot less crates. This time it is not even close with how bad the drop rate is for me.

    Hey @ZOS_GinaBruno did they lower the mount drop rate? Did they add some kind of algorithm to work against those who have a load of crowns saved up because they know we throw our money at ZOS? I know it is supposed to be bad, but this is hilarious lol

    I could buy all the mounts with the amount of crown gems I have saved up, but i'm not really interested in them. I just want to see how bad the drop rate can really be. Do I keep going?

    PS: For those of you who love to troll, I give you permission to freely troll because I know you just can't hold back.

    So you spent all those crowns, just so you could whine about the drop rate ? hehe
    Don't buy! end of problem
    But then what what would you have to whine about

    There's always a broken Group Finder in the game.
    There's always a broken mount riding animation when your character stands on the mount's back and runs on it.
    There's always poorly made decisions about game concept where we've got an alliance war within an open world, AD guys questing and trading with EP guys, EP guys living in a house in DC capital.
    There're always ridiculous Dwemer mounts.
    There's always something we can whine about.
    One of the two of us definitely has gone mad. It only remains to define whether this one is the whole world or just me.

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  • Vahrokh
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    I wholeheartedly thank the many dumb gamblers in this game!

    They ruin their life but allow ZOS the budget to create new and awesome regions, adventures and encounters for the rest of us!
  • RupzSkooma
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    Vahrokh wrote: »
    I wholeheartedly thank the many dumb gamblers in this game!

    They ruin their life but allow ZOS the budget to create new and awesome regions, adventures and encounters for the rest of us!

    I thought using this will be against the forum rule so I took the sarcastic aproach :P
    Edited by RupzSkooma on December 29, 2017 5:49PM
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  • Prof_Bawbag
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    Asking them to change CC's in some way to favour the consumer, after purchasing 75k crowns, and spending the lot on crates is somewhat counterproductive. As long as there are people who use 75k crowns, the crates will never disappear or have the odds improved. Simply makes no business sense to do so.
    Edited by Prof_Bawbag on December 29, 2017 5:15PM
  • Minyassa
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    I'd never ask for them to change Crown Crates or the drop rate or anything...my beef is with Pacrooti and his "I see a lucky aura around you" BS. I think after the first time you either get all crap items or get duplicates of items you already have, Pacrooti should shut the hell up and just shake his head sadly. His constant smarmy patter makes me want to yank his tail out by the roots.
    Edited by Minyassa on December 29, 2017 5:25PM
  • skoomatrait
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    I'm not sure what to say or what you expect.

    You KNOW the drop rate on mounts is bad and you know it has to be bad in order for ZoS to make money....

    sweety don't say if u not sure ok coz gamble box combined with lure noobs into game give enough money to zenisuks owners to fell them free to ignore all other staff for players who stay in this game long time. like group finder as it was mentioned above. noobs might be put some complain on forum but most likely not but like 99% sure they wil spend some money and some money come from gambling (theres one or maybe even more posts explains math of this scheme). so its true they make enough money to keep that inadequate behaviour in game mechanics/fixing.

  • skoomatrait
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    Vahrokh wrote: »
    I wholeheartedly thank the many dumb gamblers in this game!

    They ruin their life but allow ZOS the budget to create new and awesome regions, adventures and encounters for the rest of us!

    nope baby almost all content u can see atm in game were made few years ago. thats it
  • vamp_emily
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    Just imagine how Zos would feel if we all signed up for ESO+ but they had to use RNG to get money from our bank. :)



    Edited by vamp_emily on December 30, 2017 4:57PM

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  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    Kildayen wrote: »
    I have a ton of crowns to waste because I load up on them every time they are on sale and there is rarely anything I ever want to buy from the crown store.

    I just opened 225 crown crates and have not gotten 1 mount yet lol. Yes, that is 75,000 crowns I just spent.

    In the past I have gotten most of the mounts from a lot less crates. This time it is not even close with how bad the drop rate is for me.

    Hey @ZOS_GinaBruno did they lower the mount drop rate? Did they add some kind of algorithm to work against those who have a load of crowns saved up because they know we throw our money at ZOS? I know it is supposed to be bad, but this is hilarious lol

    I could buy all the mounts with the amount of crown gems I have saved up, but i'm not really interested in them. I just want to see how bad the drop rate can really be. Do I keep going?

    PS: For those of you who love to troll, I give you permission to freely troll because I know you just can't hold back.

    well...since this is the power of RNGEZUZ and life is ***...sux to be you...also thank you for proving to me that gamble is bad and another reason I NEVER buy crown crates
  • f047ys3v3n
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    Kildayen wrote: »
    I have a ton of crowns to waste because I load up on them every time they are on sale and there is rarely anything I ever want to buy from the crown store.

    I just opened 225 crown crates and have not gotten 1 mount yet lol. Yes, that is 75,000 crowns I just spent.

    In the past I have gotten most of the mounts from a lot less crates. This time it is not even close with how bad the drop rate is for me.

    Hey @ZOS_GinaBruno did they lower the mount drop rate? Did they add some kind of algorithm to work against those who have a load of crowns saved up because they know we throw our money at ZOS? I know it is supposed to be bad, but this is hilarious lol

    I could buy all the mounts with the amount of crown gems I have saved up, but i'm not really interested in them. I just want to see how bad the drop rate can really be. Do I keep going?

    PS: For those of you who love to troll, I give you permission to freely troll because I know you just can't hold back.

    Ouch, man I feel sorry for you. Does is help any that I have not received any mounts in my free crates?

    Also, remember not to believe all those folks who got 2 mounts out of their 3 free crates. Most bought a few 15 packs and would like you to believe they got them from the free ones (hence the idea of the free ones.)

    Do you feel better yet? Damn, I wouldn't either.
    Edited by f047ys3v3n on December 29, 2017 6:09PM
    I am mostly pleased with the current state of ESO. Please do continue to ban cheaters though and you guys have to find out who is duping gold and how because the economy is currently non-functional.
  • Zordrage
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    lol i HATE Crates in All games i never buy those....
    Edited by Zordrage on December 29, 2017 6:24PM
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