Who gets kicked from dungeons most often?

madchuska83

There wasn't a "*** bag" option so I just chose other.

Jeremy

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Standing in stupid DPS deserves to be kicked.
Stupid DPS deserves to be kicked. No - you do not deal damage as a 2h - bow templar using light attacks with the occasional Dark Flare. Stop it.

Stupid people that queues up as healer or tank - just because "I'm experienced, I can do all 3 at once )))))))" then turns out they cant do any role properly.

If you queue up as healer without the intention to heal, you're stupid. I don't like you.

A lot of DPS queue up as either tanks or healers for faster queue times.

They justify it by telling themselves (just look at this thread for evidence) that these dungeons can be done without a healer/tank. Now why they think this is a justification for them signing on to perform a role they have no intention of doing is anyone's guess.

One of few situations where I believe a kick is justified.

Everstorm

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »

Yamenstein wrote: »

I always queue as tank for normal dungeons, because as a high CP player I find it very very easy to hold agro and aoe mobs down.

Why do you go to normal dungeons anyway? As a level 23 tank, I often find it hard to keep aggro when I PUG with high CPs. I don't really care about the drops and/or finishing the dungeon. By going to normal ones you do not allow me to learn to play as a tank.

Taunts either work for the mentioned duration or do not when a boss is immune or some mechanic. On normal with high CP players just don't sweet it on thrash mobs, just enjoy the AE spam and focus on the bosses.

Danksta

I've never initiated a vote kick. I'm always a DPS and my DPS is good enough to carry a low DPS in any of the base game dungeons, and I don't PUG DLC dungeons. I also run a vMA type setup so I don't really need a healer though it does help if I don't need to keep a shield up or keep spamming Vigor. If you kick a tank you might be waiting for a while and you might just get a similar tank. Most good tanks don't have a problem finding a group so they rarely use group finder.

gard

I don't think it's related to class at all. Character class that is.

In my experience groups are quick to kick players that either don't know how to play or are inconsiderate.
I'm good with the second one, but generally I'll try to give some advice to less skilled players if they seem receptive to it rather than go along with a kick vote.

TheAngelofDeath99

Astrid_V wrote: »

RPers

Why?

Nugge

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »

Low CPs get vote kicked simply for being low. I always deny until everyone has been given the chance to show how good (s)he is. If people keep asking to kick the same person over and over I do expose it in the chat, asking to please stop it, leaving otherwise.

Fake tanks are rarely kicked, instead. These are usually the very same kid that vote kick low CPs. These are those that die miserably against a strong melee boss.


When you behave like an *ss remember:

• You did not know how to play your char.
• Low CP does not mean bad.
• High CP does not mean good.
• I could get that divine heavy/medium/light monster mask you farm since weeks.

Karma.

Amen!

When I was levelling my new warden, I got kicked out of groups often just for being low level. I am CP850+, lead raids, played since release, and know all dungeons mechanics by heart. Still I was kicked just for level reasons. These guys have no clue. I rather take a group member with level 25 that knows what to do than a quick-grinded CP400 that has no understanding of how to play the dungeon.

If I vote yes to kick someone it is for the following reasons:

1. Offliine for an extensive time
2. Being a jerk
3. Not understanding what to do (after being taught on how to do it, you should always teach new players, thus you are building up the next generation players)
4. DD:s that only use light attack
5. Jerks
6. People who like to kick low level chars w/o testing them first (a.k.a. jerks again)

/Nugge

MehrunesFlagon

A dps using sword and board and heavy armor.

Jamini

Pretty much the only people I'll kick that aren't jerks are fake tanks.

Bad DPS can be carried.
Bad healers can be carried.
Inexperienced tanks can be carried and taught.

Fake tanks are the scum of the earth and deserve boots even from easy dungeons. If you can't be assed to use the bare minium of putting on a shield and taunting things, then we can almost certainly complete the dungeon without you.

Riptide

I've carried enough "tanks" through that I've learned to despise them. They don't queue like that because it is more efficient, they do it because it is an insta queue - and because they put their own convenience before others.

Sure, I can and have healed them through the dungeon. But the likelihood of someone else dying - and costing us time and in game money is significantly raised. In tight spots Im spread thinner. For some selfish stranger?

I still will carry them a lot of the time, but make sure I put them on ignore so that I never see them again.

OC_Justice

Jeremy wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

essi2 wrote: »

"Tank"

Waiting for that vote than . Starting to believe we hardly kick tanks even the especially questionable ones. Than again maybe it's hard be a bad tank?

Tanks take the longest to replace. So even if you have a horrible tank (one wielding a lightning staff-with no taunts) removing the player will likely just result in a 3 person party for the foreseeable future.

In other words: it doesn't do the group much good to kick a bad tank.

That's probably the real reason tanks are so rarely kicked. I wouldn't say it's because they are an especially easy role to play.

DPS on the other hand are a dime a dozen and can be replaced near instantly.

My daughter says tanks are broken. Her friend a level 25 tank soloed a boss in Vaults of Madness on normal mode after everyone else died. It was normal mode. Don't kick a person just because they are low level.

OC_Justice

Now that I see all the fake tank kicks it makes me think about a spindleclutch 2 run this weekend where I came in as a replacement. I asked if he bailed and they said yes, but now I wonder if he was booted. We finished it quickly and I had to run it again to get my pledge done. UGGGHHH. Oh well, better to make real friends then fake money.

coop500

Well I for one never kick unless the person themselves is just being a jerk in chat.

But I'd say overall, people often kick DPS, plus there's twice as many of them as there is healers/tanks, plus players overall, there's more like a 10 to 2 ratio of DPS players verses healer/tanks, so that bumps the number up even more of how often they get kicked.

VinyParsley2016

Noobs

notimetocare

Other: idiots

Grabmoore

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

The person not performing their role properly or at all.

This!

The Tank without a taunt.

The healer with a bow and no vigor.

The DPS in heavy armor, that charges through all mobs without hesitation or another player around and dying.

Bluepitbull13 wrote: »

DPS that set their role as Tanks.

Seriously? I do that alot, if I queue for "casual" Vet dungeons. I mean, you can solo CoA II and many other dungeons don't even need a tank.

Ulfgarde

DPS who decide to stand in the fire and refuse to listen to advice deserve a kick.

People who do like 15k dps are fine. Anything under is kinda low and shouldn't be doing vet dungs. As long as they listen to mechanics.

Tanks who don't taunt get a kick.

Healers who don't heal get a kick.

Pretty rough for DPS'ers, it seems.

Thannazzar

DPS who queue as Tanks or Heals

heartburnkid

If the burn is awful I kick dps immediately. And low level dps in dungeons always get the boot from me.

Weesacs

I would rather have poor DPS with a longer dungeon run than have some punk ass DPS kid sign up as 'Tank' accompanied with wipe after wipe - its not like they are paying everyones repair bills.

Its usually the only time I vote kick or leave are in these instances.

svartorn

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

The person not performing their role properly or at all.

This.

But usually the DPS. Most people will try to put up with a bad healer or tank because they are harder to find.

Integral1900

Any tank that turns into a werewolf!!!

In pug groups it's a warden healer, I just do dps but freinds with warden healers have gotten used to being kicked out of pugs... not because of a lack of skill, after all they do vet content regularly but because there are so many lousy warden healers running around that some players just boot them out on reflex. Personally I don't care what class you are, do your role to the best of your ability and you'll have no trouble from me

MehrunesFlagon

Ulfgarde wrote: »

DPS who decide to stand in the fire and refuse to listen to advice deserve a kick.

People who do like 15k dps are fine. Anything under is kinda low and shouldn't be doing vet dungs. As long as they listen to mechanics.

Tanks who don't taunt get a kick.

Healers who don't heal get a kick.

Pretty rough for DPS'ers, it seems.

When exactly did 15k become an acceptable dps number?Honestly think you are being too generous with that one if the healer and tank are applying the correct buffs/debuffs. Of course situational.

Thogard

The only role i will vote kick is a "tank" that doesn't have a taunt equipped.

coop500

Scratch what I said earlier, you guys reminded me of something else that will earn a insta kick from me. Lying about your role, nothing irks me more actually and no amount of excuses will make me forgive that. If we are dying and you are obviously lying about your role, then you get kicked.

CastaLyron

People who for whatever reason can't perform their intended role in the group

Ihatenightblades

Belyar wrote: »

I got kicked by champ 100 players in a normal dungeon not too recently, as soon as we spawned inside the dungeon. I was playing a lvl 15 healer. What's funny is that I'm above champ 400 and they said srry no noobs in dungeons.

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

Ulfgarde wrote: »

DPS who decide to stand in the fire and refuse to listen to advice deserve a kick.

People who do like 15k dps are fine. Anything under is kinda low and shouldn't be doing vet dungs. As long as they listen to mechanics.

Tanks who don't taunt get a kick.

Healers who don't heal get a kick.

Pretty rough for DPS'ers, it seems.

When exactly did 15k become an acceptable dps number?Honestly think you are being too generous with that one if the healer and tank are applying the correct buffs/debuffs. Of course situational.

I want to say 25k dps is the minimum dps i want to be paired with ( i do 30k dps on 8 toons ) but ya 15k dps is horrible. If you are pulling 15k dps on a full dps build then your rotation and reflexes may be a little slow.

One thing not enough people do is practice their rotation until they mastered it. People think their youtube build can do all the numbers itsself but no you actually still need some skill...

If you do 15k dps please stay in normal dungeons for now for the sake of the next pick up group

max_only

Tasear wrote: »

essi2 wrote: »

"Tank"

Waiting for that vote than . Starting to believe we hardly kick tanks even the especially questionable ones. Than again maybe it's hard be a bad tank?

It's easy to be a bad tank. Real easy. Tanks can be divas as well. Some feel like they can hold the whole run hostage because of how rare they are.

I've never kicked someone myself but one time I did agree on a vote kick was a dps that wouldn't close portals on NormWGT. We gave them 3 tries/wipes and they never responded. After they got kicked they sent me a message saying the healer was bad... guess they didn't realize I was the healer. So not only were they terrible at following directions, or participating in mechanics, or even doing damage, they also had no idea who was doing what role.

Jamini

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

I want to say 25k dps is the minimum dps i want to be paired with ( i do 30k dps on 8 toons ) but ya 15k dps is horrible. If you are pulling 15k dps on a full dps build then your rotation and reflexes may be a little slow.

25k-30k+ DPS is honestly, for most of the game population, quite high. Easily top 1-5%
20k is a realistic expectation of what most people who can complete vet dungeons will get. 15k is a minimum.
There are no DPS checks that require more than 40k group dps (15k each DPS, 5k healer and tank) in the entire game.

This is coming from a tank who checks group DPS in every dungeon he participates in.

One thing not enough people do is practice their rotation until they mastered it. People think their youtube build can do all the numbers itsself but no you actually still need some skill...

If you do 15k dps please stay in normal dungeons for now for the sake of the next pick up group

If you expect higher than 20k, please do groupfinder groups a favor and stick with your friends. Most of the game population can't keep up with you and your elitism.

lonewolf26

That person who queues, accepts the ready check, ports in and then sits on the door while everyone else does the work.