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Obsidian3✭✭✭✭[/quote] Yeah! I want to get back to the mindless grind that may or may not even be worth doing. As there is no way of knowing if killing those mobs actually will yield results.[/quote]
I'm 100% with you!! Some things are going to be a grind and I'm alright with that! I make money being able to mindlessly grind for stuff that others buy off of my store listings. I'm frustrated with knowing if I am grinding the right mob. If I need to spend 10 hours farming to get a plan then so be it. I haven't even heard of anyone getting a plan yet
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I got Ayleid Bench Carved, blue plan from a mob drop in Rulyani's Fall (sp?) the Greenshade public dungeon, took me about 2 hours of grinding that dungeon to get it. The drop rate is horribly low, been grinding Ayleid ruins for about 8 hours now and only got that one.
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DBZVelena✭✭✭✭✭Castiel_Boomer wrote: »Castiel_Boomer wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »What is the exploit please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Due to the nature of the exploit, we aren't able to divulge any details. That said, you can rest assured that we will be fixing it, and any accounts found to be abusing it will be taken care of.
That reasoning is entirely counterintuitive.... If you are fixing it, than why does it matter? Also, how would I or anyone else know they are doing something "wrong"if you don't clearly state WHAT IT IS THEY ARE DOING WRONG? You people cloak rules under a grey umbrella of "exploit" yet it's up to us to figure WHAT IS AN EXPLOIT, and what's intended? Please just be transparent with us, the people majing your pay check possible... Or do you want more people dropping subscriptions on you?
Very well said! I couldn't agree more! I have been a paid subscriber since launch, and I feel more and more like a piece of garbage that is lucky to have the ability to play the game in which I PAY TO PLAY. Major issues continue for months without being fixed, but then as soon as someone "exploits" one of their own malfunctions, they take the servers down immediately. But God forbid they actually FIX something with that much conviction.
Bye
Im sorry, did I say I was leaving?
Some people have a reading comprehension problem. They read one thing and think it means another. Not your fault.What are Natch Potes? Can you eat those?
I believe in Genie-Gina.2 -
Mineria✭✭SixVoltCar wrote: »
IP bans won't work against VPN proxy and dynamic ip addresses.
Clearly we need fingerprint authenticators.
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Pops_ND_Irish✭✭✭✭✭Castiel_Boomer wrote: »Castiel_Boomer wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »What is the exploit please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Due to the nature of the exploit, we aren't able to divulge any details. That said, you can rest assured that we will be fixing it, and any accounts found to be abusing it will be taken care of.
That reasoning is entirely counterintuitive.... If you are fixing it, than why does it matter? Also, how would I or anyone else know they are doing something "wrong"if you don't clearly state WHAT IT IS THEY ARE DOING WRONG? You people cloak rules under a grey umbrella of "exploit" yet it's up to us to figure WHAT IS AN EXPLOIT, and what's intended? Please just be transparent with us, the people majing your pay check possible... Or do you want more people dropping subscriptions on you?
Very well said! I couldn't agree more! I have been a paid subscriber since launch, and I feel more and more like a piece of garbage that is lucky to have the ability to play the game in which I PAY TO PLAY. Major issues continue for months without being fixed, but then as soon as someone "exploits" one of their own malfunctions, they take the servers down immediately. But God forbid they actually FIX something with that much conviction.
Bye
Im sorry, did I say I was leaving?
Just giving you a way of not feeling like "a piece of garbage". Why torture yourself0 -
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IP bans won't work against VPN proxy and dynamic ip addresses.IP ban is actually simple, just make a entry in a routing table. Only take a couple of minutes
When I was working in a fortune 500 company's IT dept the senior network architect got tired of spam email from particular place and just blocked everything from that country (it was Ireland of all places). He blocked everything, Email, Web traffic, DNS, Everything..
You do realize that Zenimax is an international company with customers from the whole world?
Banning an entire countries ip range would mean a great loss of business for them.
Besides that, read the above regarding the nature of ip, most private addresses are dynamic and not static.
Finally someone with a clue!cyberjanet wrote: »Anyone else notice we've heard nothing more from nine9six since he got the email from ZOS?
Hate to spoil your tin foil party but he posted in the authentication topic a few minutes ago.
How do we know it's really him? hMMMM?Edited by gard on August 16, 2017 6:57PM2 -
squinquargesimus✭✭✭4 1/2 hours certainly falls under "a few hours" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And man, I live in Europe, have been wanting to play all day and came home to this and... Dudes. Calm down. You'll survive losing a few hours of play time, I'm sure. I'd rather not get to play today so they can fix whatever apparently serious exploit this is than have them leave it to make a mess. (Besides, somewhere it's always gonna cut into people's playtime, anyway.)only a red rage shaped diamond-fashion, singing like a mindless dragon.4 -
SixVoltCar✭✭✭squinquargesimus wrote: »4 1/2 hours certainly falls under "a few hours" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And man, I live in Europe, have been wanting to play all day and came home to this and... Dudes. Calm down. You'll survive losing a few hours of play time, I'm sure. I'd rather not get to play today so they can fix whatever apparently serious exploit this is than have them leave it to make a mess. (Besides, somewhere it's always gonna cut into people's playtime, anyway.)
Look at the official page again.
It said a few, then "at least 2 more".Edited by SixVoltCar on August 16, 2017 6:59PM0 -
Castiel_Boomer✭✭✭JusticePlague wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »DirkRavenclaw wrote: »This one crosses its claws. When this one comes back to Tamriel, this one will find out that all off the bots are gone.( Wishfull thinking)
I was running a new warden through grahtwood before the patch, near that little village where you have to work out who broke the green pact. There were so many bots in the little river valley just below that it was lagging the game. I'm talking a bot train of fifty plus all trying to kill the same bunch of cats. No way in hell were they getting xp, not spread over fifty for god sake.
I reported a few but more just kept turning up.
There's bots all over. Every damn where. Bots farmin mats, bots farmin exp. Just. all the bots.
Reporting them does NOTHING. it's pathetic.
I was accused of being a bot while I stood at a dolmen with my friend, waiting for it to respawn. We were just standing there chatting in whisper, and someone ran up to us and called us bots. Then today, just before the server went down, I was working on my Monster Hunter title, wherein I need to kill another 300+ ghosts to earn my title. So I was just running in circles outside of Davon's Watch, killing those ghosts because they are plentiful and respawn quickly. I wonder how many people thought I was a bot while i did nothing but continuously run around killing ghosts? All I'm saying is, I feel as though I'm back in Salem, and there is a witch hunt going on. I'm sure there are legitimate cases, but do you guys at least try to whisper these "bots" before you report them? Cause if not, you might be part of the problem as to why they pay little mind to bot reports. Because I am certainly not a bot, and if someone would take a second to whisper me, they would get something no BOT can produce, and that is a response to a whisper. Just a thought."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace" -Jimi Hendrix3 -
one two skip a few ninty nine a hundred as practiced by several lawyers and accountants it will be when it will be enough said shuffles off too community creations and looks for songs from the feasting halls
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SixVoltCar✭✭✭Castiel_Boomer wrote: »JusticePlague wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »DirkRavenclaw wrote: »This one crosses its claws. When this one comes back to Tamriel, this one will find out that all off the bots are gone.( Wishfull thinking)
I was running a new warden through grahtwood before the patch, near that little village where you have to work out who broke the green pact. There were so many bots in the little river valley just below that it was lagging the game. I'm talking a bot train of fifty plus all trying to kill the same bunch of cats. No way in hell were they getting xp, not spread over fifty for god sake.
I reported a few but more just kept turning up.
There's bots all over. Every damn where. Bots farmin mats, bots farmin exp. Just. all the bots.
Reporting them does NOTHING. it's pathetic.
I was accused of being a bot while I stood at a dolmen with my friend, waiting for it to respawn. We were just standing there chatting in whisper, and someone ran up to us and called us bots. Then today, just before the server went down, I was working on my Monster Hunter title, wherein I need to kill another 300+ ghosts to earn my title. So I was just running in circles outside of Davon's Watch, killing those ghosts because they are plentiful and respawn quickly. I wonder how many people thought I was a bot while i did nothing but continuously run around killing ghosts? All I'm saying is, I feel as though I'm back in Salem, and there is a witch hunt going on. I'm sure there are legitimate cases, but do you guys at least try to whisper these "bots" before you report them? Cause if not, you might be part of the problem as to why they pay little mind to bot reports. Because I am certainly not a bot, and if someone would take a second to whisper me, they would get something no BOT can produce, and that is a response to a whisper. Just a thought.
They don't ban based ONLY upon player opinion, they're going to look at you for repeditive behaviours (and no human movement is absolutely repeditive, even if you do the same thing over and over). The only reason to feel defensive about it is if you were actually botting/exploiting.1 -
DirkRavenclaw✭✭✭✭Castiel_Boomer wrote: »JusticePlague wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »DirkRavenclaw wrote: »This one crosses its claws. When this one comes back to Tamriel, this one will find out that all off the bots are gone.( Wishfull thinking)
I was running a new warden through grahtwood before the patch, near that little village where you have to work out who broke the green pact. There were so many bots in the little river valley just below that it was lagging the game. I'm talking a bot train of fifty plus all trying to kill the same bunch of cats. No way in hell were they getting xp, not spread over fifty for god sake.
I reported a few but more just kept turning up.
There's bots all over. Every damn where. Bots farmin mats, bots farmin exp. Just. all the bots.
Reporting them does NOTHING. it's pathetic.
I was accused of being a bot while I stood at a dolmen with my friend, waiting for it to respawn. We were just standing there chatting in whisper, and someone ran up to us and called us bots. Then today, just before the server went down, I was working on my Monster Hunter title, wherein I need to kill another 300+ ghosts to earn my title. So I was just running in circles outside of Davon's Watch, killing those ghosts because they are plentiful and respawn quickly. I wonder how many people thought I was a bot while i did nothing but continuously run around killing ghosts? All I'm saying is, I feel as though I'm back in Salem, and there is a witch hunt going on. I'm sure there are legitimate cases, but do you guys at least try to whisper these "bots" before you report them? Cause if not, you might be part of the problem as to why they pay little mind to bot reports. Because I am certainly not a bot, and if someone would take a second to whisper me, they would get something no BOT can produce, and that is a response to a whisper. Just a thought.
i always whisper first or inv to duel. Belive me, a BOTtrain, you notice. First time, i saw one, it freaked me right out,Council Member of AtWritsEnd, Member of LoneWolfeHelp, Donor of GhostSeaTradingCO., Factor of EastEmpireTradingCO.,HonourGuard of ´DominionImperialGuard(DIG/PVP)
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squinquargesimus✭✭✭SixVoltCar wrote: »squinquargesimus wrote: »4 1/2 hours certainly falls under "a few hours" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And man, I live in Europe, have been wanting to play all day and came home to this and... Dudes. Calm down. You'll survive losing a few hours of play time, I'm sure. I'd rather not get to play today so they can fix whatever apparently serious exploit this is than have them leave it to make a mess. (Besides, somewhere it's always gonna cut into people's playtime, anyway.)
Look at the official page again.
It said a few, then "at least 2 more".
Uh, yeah, I know.
It said a few when i came home earlier shortly after the servers went down and it's been a few hours since, so it's not like ZoS failed to deliver the fix in the time they said they would since ~5 hours (the time from the initial post about the downtime till when the 2 hours are over) would still fall under "a few" is what I mean, since people complained that downtime is too long for being told it'd take a few hours.only a red rage shaped diamond-fashion, singing like a mindless dragon.0 -
Mineria✭✭OC_Justice wrote: »
In a case that might be as egregious as thing might be, would it be possible to contact the ISP of the individual to try and work something out?
Just curious don't know the ins and outs of how to truly ban someone would work. Even a hardware ban can be bypassed from my understanding.
You can contact an ISP and address such issue, but it is up to the ISP to take action, they are not allowed to share a customers details to companies like Zenimax.
But then again, a smart hacker would make sure that the used route is untraceable by using tunnels... until the hacker gets sloppy ofc.
If the issue is account security related and if there are money involved it would be more a matter of local authorities taking affair than banning an ip address anyway.
If it is made via players own accounts the thing is as easy as just banning those accounts for good.Edited by Mineria on August 16, 2017 7:08PM1 -
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✭✭✭SixVoltCar wrote: »Castiel_Boomer wrote: »JusticePlague wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »DirkRavenclaw wrote: »This one crosses its claws. When this one comes back to Tamriel, this one will find out that all off the bots are gone.( Wishfull thinking)
I was running a new warden through grahtwood before the patch, near that little village where you have to work out who broke the green pact. There were so many bots in the little river valley just below that it was lagging the game. I'm talking a bot train of fifty plus all trying to kill the same bunch of cats. No way in hell were they getting xp, not spread over fifty for god sake.
I reported a few but more just kept turning up.
There's bots all over. Every damn where. Bots farmin mats, bots farmin exp. Just. all the bots.
Reporting them does NOTHING. it's pathetic.
I was accused of being a bot while I stood at a dolmen with my friend, waiting for it to respawn. We were just standing there chatting in whisper, and someone ran up to us and called us bots. Then today, just before the server went down, I was working on my Monster Hunter title, wherein I need to kill another 300+ ghosts to earn my title. So I was just running in circles outside of Davon's Watch, killing those ghosts because they are plentiful and respawn quickly. I wonder how many people thought I was a bot while i did nothing but continuously run around killing ghosts? All I'm saying is, I feel as though I'm back in Salem, and there is a witch hunt going on. I'm sure there are legitimate cases, but do you guys at least try to whisper these "bots" before you report them? Cause if not, you might be part of the problem as to why they pay little mind to bot reports. Because I am certainly not a bot, and if someone would take a second to whisper me, they would get something no BOT can produce, and that is a response to a whisper. Just a thought.
They don't ban based ONLY upon player opinion, they're going to look at you for repeditive behaviours (and no human movement is absolutely repeditive, even if you do the same thing over and over). The only reason to feel defensive about it is if you were actually botting/exploiting.
You should have a look at LoL policy, they insta ban you just for telling someone else to *** off in the general chat one time.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭In the German forum section official word was it may take at least until 23.00 CEST. Yikes.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
Servo✭✭mabdastardseb17_ESO wrote: »one two skip a few ninty nine a hundred as practiced by several lawyers and accountants it will be when it will be enough said shuffles off too community creations and looks for songs from the feasting halls
...what? Prime example of why at least some attempt at punctuation is important.PRAISE BE TO THE FAT ORC!
Sevoa Starsunder - MagSorc
Sevalynn Starsunder - MagBlade
Katarina Starsunder - Stamblade
Darielle Starsunder - MagDK
Trashcan Tom - MagWarden
Gimbly Bimblybottom - Merchant Extraordinaire
Grimtooth Marrowsucker - StamSorc
Barrelgut Fleshflayer - StamDk
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SixVoltCar✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »SixVoltCar wrote: »Castiel_Boomer wrote: »JusticePlague wrote: »Integral1900 wrote: »DirkRavenclaw wrote: »This one crosses its claws. When this one comes back to Tamriel, this one will find out that all off the bots are gone.( Wishfull thinking)
I was running a new warden through grahtwood before the patch, near that little village where you have to work out who broke the green pact. There were so many bots in the little river valley just below that it was lagging the game. I'm talking a bot train of fifty plus all trying to kill the same bunch of cats. No way in hell were they getting xp, not spread over fifty for god sake.
I reported a few but more just kept turning up.
There's bots all over. Every damn where. Bots farmin mats, bots farmin exp. Just. all the bots.
Reporting them does NOTHING. it's pathetic.
I was accused of being a bot while I stood at a dolmen with my friend, waiting for it to respawn. We were just standing there chatting in whisper, and someone ran up to us and called us bots. Then today, just before the server went down, I was working on my Monster Hunter title, wherein I need to kill another 300+ ghosts to earn my title. So I was just running in circles outside of Davon's Watch, killing those ghosts because they are plentiful and respawn quickly. I wonder how many people thought I was a bot while i did nothing but continuously run around killing ghosts? All I'm saying is, I feel as though I'm back in Salem, and there is a witch hunt going on. I'm sure there are legitimate cases, but do you guys at least try to whisper these "bots" before you report them? Cause if not, you might be part of the problem as to why they pay little mind to bot reports. Because I am certainly not a bot, and if someone would take a second to whisper me, they would get something no BOT can produce, and that is a response to a whisper. Just a thought.
They don't ban based ONLY upon player opinion, they're going to look at you for repeditive behaviours (and no human movement is absolutely repeditive, even if you do the same thing over and over). The only reason to feel defensive about it is if you were actually botting/exploiting.
You should have a look at LoL policy, they insta ban you just for telling someone else to *** off in the general chat one time.
I can't say I ever took an interest in that one.0 -
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✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »What is the exploit please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Due to the nature of the exploit, we aren't able to divulge any details. That said, you can rest assured that we will be fixing it, and any accounts found to be abusing it will be taken care of.
"Taken care of"?
You mean they're going to sleep with the fishes?
or,
Are you going to pay their mortgage and make them dinner?
Just curious.
The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.1 -
ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerHey guys, we're looking at approximately one more hour until we're finished.9 -
Faylis✭✭✭
IP bans won't work against VPN proxy and dynamic ip addresses.IP ban is actually simple, just make a entry in a routing table. Only take a couple of minutes
When I was working in a fortune 500 company's IT dept the senior network architect got tired of spam email from particular place and just blocked everything from that country (it was Ireland of all places). He blocked everything, Email, Web traffic, DNS, Everything..
You do realize that Zenimax is an international company with customers from the whole world?
Banning an entire countries ip range would mean a great loss of business for them.
Besides that, read the above regarding the nature of ip, most private addresses are dynamic and not static.
Finally someone with a clue!cyberjanet wrote: »Anyone else notice we've heard nothing more from nine9six since he got the email from ZOS?
Hate to spoil your tin foil party but he posted in the authentication topic a few minutes ago.
How do we know it's really him? hMMMM?
the world my never know... except the Shadow, that *** always knows!Edited by Faylis on August 16, 2017 7:09PM1 -
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, we're looking at approximately one more hour until we're finished.
Well....so....tomorrow we will be able to play? Or just next week?2 -
Shado187✭✭✭I don't care how long it takes but I would like a general idea of what the Fudgesicle is going on! There was a time when Zeni would divulge the current exploits to the player base and encourage the honest players to report anyone using exploits/cheats ect. Now we cant report or expose cheaters/exploiters here we have to write a ticket in game cross our fingers and say a hail mary and maybe something will be done about it! I feel if you are caught cheating/exploiting then you don't deserve to be protected by the ToS because you have already shamed yourself for stooping that low!1
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MarzAttakz✭✭✭✭SixVoltCar wrote: »Epiphanies don't really happen on-demand.
You Sir, have just won the daily internet. Mind if purloin that statement?
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Lhylyth | Breton | MagPlar
Nhynyth | Khajiit | MagDK
Ghwynyth | Dunmer | MagSorc
Loots-All-Urns | Argonian | MagDen
Shades-Of-Gray | Argonian | StamDK
Or'Chastration | Orc | StamSorc
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DirkRavenclaw✭✭✭✭Well, this one, on MEZE time, was thinking last night that a lot off odd, high priced offers were running on zone chat. good items like Psycic ambrosia or receipe parts for it and a lot of unbound hight quality gear. Noticed, that not a lot of people reacted.Council Member of AtWritsEnd, Member of LoneWolfeHelp, Donor of GhostSeaTradingCO., Factor of EastEmpireTradingCO.,HonourGuard of ´DominionImperialGuard(DIG/PVP)
Master Crafter including Jewelry, i craft for Mats and Donation, always happy to help, if Im not in the Middle of PVP, i play since around 14 Months0 -
SixVoltCar✭✭✭Truepotato wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, we're looking at approximately one more hour until we're finished.
Well....so....tomorrow we will be able to play? Or just next week?
Your name is appropriate.2 -
SixVoltCar wrote: »Truepotato wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, we're looking at approximately one more hour until we're finished.
Well....so....tomorrow we will be able to play? Or just next week?
Your name is appropriate.
Thank you,kind sir.0
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