Tells - Troll/Hate tells - Threads while in offline mode

Devilhand

I wonder, why if you set your self in offline mode you are able to send tells to other players, yet you wont receive any response. Well, this gives the opportunity to all the troll players out there to send very aggresive and disgusting tells and threats with out giving you the opportunity to answer back, specially in PvP. In other words, ZOS you supporting trolling and harrasment by coward players that *** off people.
Simple solution, if you voluntarily set yourself offline, so no one knows your online and hence cant receive any messages, then you CANT send tells either or talk in zone chat or any public chat period. Perhaps only exception would be group and guilds chats.
If you this people might stop sending these troll tells because they will have to actually face the other player they threating or insulting, like a grown human being and not a little coward that its allow to insult people with out consequenses like it's happening for a while now.

Or maybe dont allow inter-alliances texting? like old days...

Thanks you.

Bouldercleave

Surprisingly enough, I have never once been trolled or threatened in game - only here on the forums.

Those two individuals know who they are......

Yakidafi

Edit: wow first time adding a picture via phone worked.

Devilhand

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Surprisingly enough, I have never once been trolled or threatened in game - only here on the forums.

Those two individuals know who they are......

Do you PvP?

I get threats every time I PvP, some times I get over 25 per day.
Recently I even got a threat while in PvE from grabbing resources nodes...

Players/Community feels more aggresive these days, there is no respect and all of those players are set in offline mode...

AzraelKrieg

Devilhand wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Surprisingly enough, I have never once been trolled or threatened in game - only here on the forums.

Those two individuals know who they are......

Do you PvP?

I get threats every time I PvP, some times I get over 25 per day.
Recently I even got a threat while in PvE from grabbing resources nodes...

Players/Community feels more aggresive these days, there is no respect and all of those players are set in offline mode...

Well there's your problem. PvP is generally full of people that get salty about being killed

Devilhand

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Devilhand wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Surprisingly enough, I have never once been trolled or threatened in game - only here on the forums.

Those two individuals know who they are......

Do you PvP?

I get threats every time I PvP, some times I get over 25 per day.
Recently I even got a threat while in PvE from grabbing resources nodes...

Players/Community feels more aggresive these days, there is no respect and all of those players are set in offline mode...

Well there's your problem. PvP is generally full of people that get salty about being killed

Trust me, I know that already...
But tell me, why they can send threats and hate tells while in offline mode, and dont receive any answer back because of it. If stuff like that happen in real life they would get a punch in the face. Bad, hatred and coward attitudes should not be supported in game, and this offline mode it is at moment doing so.

Yakidafi

@AzraelKrieg one might think so to be true. But the real salty players stay in pve because they smashed too many of their keyboards.

SoLooney

Trolling, hating, trash talk, salt, its a part of all competitive games, people take it way too personally.
At least on the xbox, i just get a bunch of grown men and women yelling and getting salty when im pvping, interesting change from call of duty when it was all kids doing it lol

Malic

You getting angry/salt tells in PVP? You've won.

The pinnacle of the ESO PVP experience is to have someone contact you from another alliance outside the normal combat exchange to tell you you cheat, you suck whatever.

This means you created an emotional response from them while you just played a game. Cherish these, and welcome to club babe.

Runschei

So don't let them troll you by showing you care? Block them? Report them if it is that bad?

Ruse

Why on earth are you trying to respond anyways? lol

StormWylf

Devilhand wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Surprisingly enough, I have never once been trolled or threatened in game - only here on the forums.

Those two individuals know who they are......

Do you PvP?

I get threats every time I PvP, some times I get over 25 per day.
Recently I even got a threat while in PvE from grabbing resources nodes...

Players/Community feels more aggresive these days, there is no respect and all of those players are set in offline mode...

Seriously?

Magdalina

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Surprisingly enough, I have never once been trolled or threatened in game - only here on the forums.

Those two individuals know who they are......

Well the OP did mention making threads

On topic, I don't understand the reasoning for the system to work the way it does in the first place. Talking in group/guild/zone chat when offline makes perfect sense because in each of these instances people can respond to you using the same tool you did(group/guild/zone chat) and you're on equal footing there, but why on Earth would you want to send someone a personal message when they 100% cannot respond? 99/100 times I get a tell from offline people it's my friends who were feeding 10 alts' horses and forgot to log back on. I then have to mail them to remind them to log in and if their mail happens to be full well tough luck, they usually message me like in an hour with something like "LOL and I was wondering why no one wanted to talk to me" XD Heck I sometimes do this myself and it's actually annoying because it's so easy to forget about being set offline and then keep wondering why no one responds.

Sheezabeast

There are times I don't wanna be messaged or grouped, and its nice to be able to go offline, but still talk in guild when I may need to, for price checks or other things.

I agree though that its lame for people to send rage tells while offline.

ItsMeToo

Magdalina wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Surprisingly enough, I have never once been trolled or threatened in game - only here on the forums.

Those two individuals know who they are......

Well the OP did mention making threads

On topic, I don't understand the reasoning for the system to work the way it does in the first place. Talking in group/guild/zone chat when offline makes perfect sense because in each of these instances people can respond to you using the same tool you did(group/guild/zone chat) and you're on equal footing there, but why on Earth would you want to send someone a personal message when they 100% cannot respond? 99/100 times I get a tell from offline people it's my friends who were feeding 10 alts' horses and forgot to log back on. I then have to mail them to remind them to log in and if their mail happens to be full well tough luck, they usually message me like in an hour with something like "LOL and I was wondering why no one wanted to talk to me" XD Heck I sometimes do this myself and it's actually annoying because it's so easy to forget about being set offline and then keep wondering why no one responds.

LOL trolling yourself

Sarato

Qbiken

Story time (my first hatewhisper I ever got):

> Be me, zergling little PvE player during the Midyear event.
> Only there for the 2x AP, rarely PvP otherwise, to toxic place for my taste otherwise
> Playing a bomblade build on AD side, can do 0 stuff unless my ultimate is enough to use EotS/Soul-tether
> Hunts some EP-players, obviously an organized raid with good players.
> Manage to outnumber them (as zergs usually do) and kill them.
> Recognize one of the EP-players that´s been killed, she/he used to flame me a lot on the forums a while ago (said that I shouldn´t comment about PvP related stuff since I don´t PvP --> LoL)
> Disclaimer: This EP-player is known to be very salty and is well-known for having a very passive-aggressive/aggressive approach towards the game in generall
> He/She doesn´t res at a keep, I figure that someone of her/his teammates must be comming for a res.
> Decides to go full trollmode to see if I can bait a flame-response. Goes into sneakmode (spawn-camping)
> Someone come and starts resing (I was right, lol)
> Interupts the res, goes inte sneak/stealth
> Player starts resing again, I interupt the res once again.
> Keep going for Another 5-7 minutes until the rest of the EP Group come and kills me.
> Receives hate-whisper from the previously dead EP-player how trash/pathetic I am for not being able to spawn-kill.
> Implying it was intended lel.

SnubbS

Didn't even know this was a thing—then again, I send more hate mail than I receive.

Qbiken wrote: »

Story time (my first hatewhisper I ever got):

> Be me, zergling little PvE player during the Midyear event.
> Only there for the 2x AP, rarely PvP otherwise, to toxic place for my taste otherwise
> Playing a bomblade build on AD side, can do 0 stuff unless my ultimate is enough to use EotS/Soul-tether
> Hunts some EP-players, obviously an organized raid with good players.
> Manage to outnumber them (as zergs usually do) and kill them.
> Recognize one of the EP-players that´s been killed, she/he used to flame me a lot on the forums a while ago (said that I shouldn´t comment about PvP related stuff since I don´t PvP --> LoL)
> Disclaimer: This EP-player is known to be very salty and is well-known for having a very passive-aggressive/aggressive approach towards the game in generall
> He/She doesn´t res at a keep, I figure that someone of her/his teammates must be comming for a res.
> Decides to go full trollmode to see if I can bait a flame-response. Goes into sneakmode (spawn-camping)
> Someone come and starts resing (I was right, lol)
> Interupts the res, goes inte sneak/stealth
> Player starts resing again, I interupt the res once again.
> Keep going for Another 5-7 minutes until the rest of the EP Group come and kills me.
> Receives hate-whisper from the previously dead EP-player how trash/pathetic I am for not being able to spawn-kill.
> Implying it was intended lel.

If you don't, then you shouldn't. Nothing wrong with that logic.

Pele

Disagree.

Don't disable offline-status chat for everyone in the entire game because a few jerks abuse it.

Report them if it bothers you that much. If block listing them also blocks their tells then block them.

Koensol

The fun part about hate tells is you can truely let loose your imagination. Whenever I kill a cliff racer spammer and he rages at me, I try to imagine a kid that is foaming at the mouth, with 75% of his keyboard buttons torn out from previous outbursts, still neuroticaly spamming the nr. 1 button as if it were a muscle reflex. His eyes start popping out of the sockets, while he squeezes his fists together, ready to also smash up his beloved nr. 1 button because it didn't give him a free kill.

No matter what they say to me, I will just laugh my ass off.

Gargath

I only express my rage-say to people who insolently steal treasure chests for which I'm actually fighting with mobs.
Very irritating attitude. In this moment of fun one quickly steal the chest/node and run.
Rage well deserved and don't tell me it's not.

Minyassa

Think of it as a blessing. They can send you abusive, insulting messages that, if they break TOS, you can report. Not being able to reply means that you are saved from giving them any ammunition back, and they have nothing to report you for in return. It gives you the "moral high ground" appearance, which is an advantage when getting other people into trouble for being awful.

efster

Yes, disable whispering others when you're offline, though not so much because of salt or whatever. They can't respond, so there's no point in having it as an option. Whispers are a great way to have a normal conversation without clogging up /zone, /say, or gchat for everyone else -- that conversation can't happen if only one person is able to talk, so it seems pointless that an offline person can even initiate a whisper.

No to disabling zone chat for offliners though, anyone can reply in zone chat and /say, /yell, etc, so there's no reason to disable it.

Fischblut

I like how offline mode works People who want to troll will do it anyway - I think they would actually like to be in online mode so they can receive answers to their hate tells...
In pvp I received hate tells when I was online, but I do not send hate tells myself - I may only use some physical "interactions" to show my disapproval when needed And while offline I can still warn people in zone chat about enemy position, absolutely nothing wrong with it. I do not like that you can't type in any chat (except group) when dead though - it would be invaluable sometimes
The only thing I would change is: if person I'm trying to whisper is offline, I shouldn't be able to select option to whisper them (neither from player interaction interface, nor in chat). Once I saw a character with awesome looking armor and typed in whisper something like "how cool the armor looks and what style is it" - only to send it in vain cause that player was in offline mode And then he logged out...
In pve if I'm offline and don't feel like changing my status, when I see someone WTB item I can sell - I just send them a whisper like "I can sell the item for this price, add me to group if interested". I will group with player for trade anyway, so I also see no problem in whispering like that.

Slick_007

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Well there's your problem. PvP is generally full of people that get salty about being killed

especially when you killed them with artillery heh

Countcalorie

Malic wrote: »

You getting angry/salt tells in PVP? You've won.

The pinnacle of the ESO PVP experience is to have someone contact you from another alliance outside the normal combat exchange to tell you you cheat, you suck whatever.

This means you created an emotional response from them while you just played a game. Cherish these, and welcome to club babe.

I just feel bad when I get hate mail.why are people so competitive in this game?

Qbiken

Countcalorie wrote: »

Malic wrote: »

You getting angry/salt tells in PVP? You've won.

The pinnacle of the ESO PVP experience is to have someone contact you from another alliance outside the normal combat exchange to tell you you cheat, you suck whatever.

This means you created an emotional response from them while you just played a game. Cherish these, and welcome to club babe.

I just feel bad when I get hate mail.why are people so competitive in this game?

Sending hatemail has nothing to do with being competitive. Someone taking pride in flaming/hating/bullying someone in a game needs to revalue their priorities or take them somewhere else. I can´t take someone serious if they send me hatemail in a game, it´s just sad.

Also why I don´t like some of these "exposed" videos people post on youtube. Some of them are clearly ment for entertaining purpose and are very mild in their "exposure". But some of them are obviusly posted for other reasons......

MornaBaine

ZOS doesn't believe player harassment is a problem.

Saoirse_Siobhan

Fischblut wrote: »

The only thing I would change is: if person I'm trying to whisper is offline, I shouldn't be able to select option to whisper them (neither from player interaction interface, nor in chat). Once I saw a character with awesome looking armor and typed in whisper something like "how cool the armor looks and what style is it" - only to send it in vain cause that player was in offline mode And then he logged out...

Yeah that should be changed. I like to be in offline mode sometimes for one reason or another, but the problem is, sometimes I forget, and if someone needs help for something and then I whisper them or I "LFM" for a group I wonder why I don't get a response. /facepalm I know, it's my fault for forgetting to go back on to online mode, but it would be good to have some sort of pop-up message in the corner when you post in chat that reminds you that you are in offline mode and that people may not be able to respond to you. Or just disable /whisper completely when you are in offline mode
As for hate tells, well I don't PvP much, and when I do I'm mostly in offline mode anyway... or the one getting killed so I haven't had a problem with that And no I don't send hate tells, because LOL why? But hey, if it's a problem, that's what the ignore feature is for, right?

Drazkyth

I get abuse in pvp all the time, people can't stand being bested. I simply add them to my ignore list.
If someone reks me it's all good. I'll avenge myself eventually

Ulfgarde

Aw man, you get hate whispers from everyone. Your won't believe it. The people who whisper you from offline mode are just gold. Reminds me of someone who threatened to dox me for killing him while farming IC years ago. Just someone shows how great their insecurity is.

It doesn't matter though. The ignore list/offline mode works wonders and you don't need to ignore for longer than 24 hours. If it gets to death threats and harassment otherwise then you report and move on. It's just that simple.