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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8098811/#Comment_8098811

To the people kicking out lvl40+ players from normal dungeons for not having CP.....

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and giving that Player a 15 min CD because of it....

all of you that do this.... in a normal dungeon... [snip]

wish i could slap people through the screen sometimes....

[edit for profanity masking]
Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on September 7, 2017 1:39AM
  • Hippie4927
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    I agree!
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  • XxBradeyxX
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    It depends on the dungeon though. I am not carrying no low level 100 through vet mazzatun.
  • zaria
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    Never heard of that, sounds very weird,
    some tries to kick below level 30 in the normal dlc ones, nothing else.
    No other reason fake tank / healer or many wipes?

    Or that you queued for veteran instead ?
    Has done that many times. Sometimes it works out well
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • CrisXD
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    I agree! I have CP but this isnt right. You might as well say to the player "im afraid your going to have to leave because your just not good enough"
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  • Tryxus
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    Zoliru wrote: »
    wish i could slap people through the screen sometimes....

    a-punch-in-the-face.jpg
    Edited by Tryxus on August 5, 2017 10:57AM
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  • Euant
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    XxBradeyxX wrote: »
    It depends on the dungeon though. I am not carrying no low level 100 through vet mazzatun.

    The thread title indicates this discussion only involves normal dungeons.
  • Qbiken
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    Euant wrote: »
    XxBradeyxX wrote: »
    It depends on the dungeon though. I am not carrying no low level 100 through vet mazzatun.

    The thread title indicates this discussion only involves normal dungeons.

    When I read normal dungeon I assume it´s "not-veteran". Mazzatun can be done on normal and veteran. Or do you mean non-dlc-dungeons?
  • Arundo
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    Just put them on your ignore list, gives me some kind of satisfaction when i do when someone behaves like an idiot.
  • Yakidafi
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Euant wrote: »
    XxBradeyxX wrote: »
    It depends on the dungeon though. I am not carrying no low level 100 through vet mazzatun.

    The thread title indicates this discussion only involves normal dungeons.

    When I read normal dungeon I assume it´s "not-veteran". Mazzatun can be done on normal and veteran. Or do you mean non-dlc-dungeons?

    Well the one that he replied to wrote "vet mazzatun" so.. Are you Bradey? :open_mouth:
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  • Keep_Door
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    I have never tried to kick anybody before, but if i can tell its going to be a bad time i will leave. Say low levels, bad weapon choices, missing armor pieces low levels qued as the wrong role etc.

    I have tried goving advice before but most of the time people take it the wrong way and scream elitist jerk....

    Play however you want but dont expect me to stick around for it. I dont play to teach you how to Play.
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Keep_Door wrote: »
    I have never tried to kick anybody before, but if i can tell its going to be a bad time i will leave.

    We're talking about NORMAL dungeons here. What can possibly go wrong in normal dungeons, even if people have the worst possible setups ?

    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on August 5, 2017 11:18AM
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    Keep_Door wrote: »
    I have never tried to kick anybody before, but if i can tell its going to be a bad time i will leave.

    We're talking about NORMAL dungeons here. What can possibly go wrong in normal dungeons, even if people have the worst possible setups ?

    I sat in guild once, doing my own thing, and watched (on the roster) a 120 minute run of nWGT. I don't know exactly what happened. I do know we can no longer match two of the players from the guild together at all for dungeon runs now, though. AFIAK they did, in fact, complete. But, I've never pressed the issue.
  • starkerealm
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Zoliru wrote: »
    wish i could slap people through the screen sometimes....

    a-punch-in-the-face.jpg

    Other way round, @Tryxus. Secure their head and then slap it through the screen.
  • Zordrage
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    zaria wrote: »
    Never heard of that, sounds very weird,
    some tries to kick below level 30 in the normal dlc ones, nothing else.
    No other reason fake tank / healer or many wipes?

    Or that you queued for veteran instead ?
    Has done that many times. Sometimes it works out well

    Nope not even got to the 1st trash mob... and people were talking to kick me because no CP... and then i got kicked....

    then i requoed and got the same group -.- so i got kicked again Instantly and also got a 15 min wait time for it..... thx devs...

    also im a dps quoing as a DPS sooo.....

    and it IS Normal Dung...... veteran stuff arent even unlocked for me....
  • Keep_Door
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    Keep_Door wrote: »
    I have never tried to kick anybody before, but if i can tell its going to be a bad time i will leave.

    We're talking about NORMAL dungeons here. What can possibly go wrong in normal dungeons, even if people have the worst possible setups ?


    Lmao you would be surprised.


    I dont do dungeons often but when i do i want a fast run wothout any wipes or hiccups.

    Thats how i want to play. If you want to tank with a bow or heal with a 2h thats your business but im out. Could i carry through a normal dungeon? ... yeah most likely..... do i want to?......No i dont.
  • zaria
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    Zoliru wrote: »
    zaria wrote: »
    Never heard of that, sounds very weird,
    some tries to kick below level 30 in the normal dlc ones, nothing else.
    No other reason fake tank / healer or many wipes?

    Or that you queued for veteran instead ?
    Has done that many times. Sometimes it works out well

    Nope not even got to the 1st trash mob... and people were talking to kick me because no CP... and then i got kicked....

    then i requoed and got the same group -.- so i got kicked again Instantly and also got a 15 min wait time for it..... thx devs...

    also im a dps quoing as a DPS sooo.....

    and it IS Normal Dung...... veteran stuff arent even unlocked for me....
    Who dungeon was it? i guess the other players was low cp ones hoping to get an high cp one instead.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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    I have some of my most fun in game running normal dungeons on one of my lower level characters, with a group of other lower level characters, or taking other people of low level through a dungeon when I am on one of my maxed characters.

    Especially if they are new players without CP, it's a real joy to do whatever I can to provide a good experience to them so that they stick with it.
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  • Olen_Mikko
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    Join a guild and run with guildmates. Problem solved + you might even learn mechanics
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  • humpalicous
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    XxBradeyxX wrote: »
    It depends on the dungeon though. I am not carrying no low level 100 through vet mazzatun.

    He specifically mentioned a normal dungeon, most which are soloable.
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    If it is any consolation to the OP, those kicking lvl 40 players out of a normal dungeon are probably not exactly amongst the stronger players in the game. They probably needed a group to carry them through the normal dungeon which is sad.
  • tommalmm
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    In normal dungeons I kick only people who queue as tanks and then run over entire room with the boss, making others chase it, extending simple fights to extreme lenghts. I don't mind DDs queuing as tanks if they slot a taunt and keep the boss in place while DPSing.

    In other cases I'm more likely to leave than kick someone, even in vet dungeons.... Unless it's obviously a specific player's fault that we wipe, not just the group sucking... Or the player is one shotted over and over and over...

    I'm quite sure I've never kickvoted someone before first boss fight (I've left many times after first trash pull, though).
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    I would like to carry tho , but its not gonna happen with wgt,cos,rom

    Dont blame the players , blame the smart dungeon finder designers
  • HorrorShow
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    I dislike CP. It creates a similar problem to EVE online. New players are disadvantaged and shunned by long term players.
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  • Strider_Roshin
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    People who do this are talentless wimps. If I ever queue for a normal dungeon; I'm doing it because I want it done quicker, and not because I need the help. I've had to solo bosses in veteran dungeons before because my teammates were too weak.

    With that said if you queue for a dungeon, and you can't even weapon swap yet; expect to be carried by me, not kicked.
    Edited by Strider_Roshin on August 5, 2017 2:11PM
  • Strider_Roshin
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    If it is any consolation to the OP, those kicking lvl 40 players out of a normal dungeon are probably not exactly amongst the stronger players in the game. They probably needed a group to carry them through the normal dungeon which is sad.

    This.
  • Sigma957
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    Normal group dungeons can be solo'ed and with a group done in no time at all. Is the best way to learn the mechanics and teach players what to do, is complete BS to kick low levels out.
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    Hope they got an cp500 or something who only did LA with bow as replacement :)
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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    It's was pretty rough after one tamerial, but I feel Morrowind has adjusted things around so this should very rarely be needed. I once had a werewolf, wielding frost staff, doesn't wait for tank, sucidal, speaking a different language, likely below 10 years old dd ...one only do so much before vote to kick is mandatory.
  • m12d12_ESO
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    [It depends on the dungeon though. I am not carrying no low level 100 through vet mazzatun.]

    This thread is about "Normal" runs not Vet.

    Kicking people out for not having cp on a 'Normal' run is rude and un-called for. Alot of this I blame on newer players, especially younger ones, that have quick leveled up and havent built a sense of community yet.
    Edited by m12d12_ESO on August 5, 2017 2:37PM
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  • StormWylf
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    There are always elitist AHs in every game. As others have said put them on ignore, but I do understand your feelings.
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